glamour show 103 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 good for her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophonic 7,015 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 to be honest, every LGBT activist should decline their oscar if he does the show. including gaga. and i really dont want to bring her in that posititon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonster 1,786 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Epione said: Lesbians hate gays now. Thanks, Ellen. I guess all those times I’ve stood up for my gay friends and trans people are just gone, thanks Ellen literally the only lesbian in existence people know of and she comes up with this I hate being a gay woman really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,625 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Economy said: Ok the head and shoulders animal connection to her is very indirect. If ur gonna go that indirect then she couldn't involve with half of businesses It’s like if a BDS member will promote a product that is made in the occupied west bank, it’s indirect to them but it’s the opposite of what they believe.. And in some sense, she chose the worst company, experiments on animals is a long suffering.. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover 1,635 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 wtf is wrong with y'all?? like if you can't handle a joke, what are you doing in the big bad internet?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover 1,635 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 hours ago, ILoveAGypsyLife said: First of all, Kevin Hart deserves respect. His tweets were wildly offensive, but I do think he is in a better place now and is no longer homophobic, and it is important to realize that people can change. People’s opinions grow and change and evolve, and it is not fair nor understandable to hold someone to standards based on a comment from 10 years ago. I do think he should say the words “I’m sorry to those offended and to the LGBTQ+ community,” and I’m not defending his past actions or saying he’s handled this perfectly, but we shouldn’t hold him to this forever. As for Ellen, she uses her platform to spread kindness and love, which is so important. Let’s just remember she probably knows more about this situation than any of us as she knows Kevin personally, and we do not. one of the very few statements that actually make sense in this whole topic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 21 hours ago, Didymus said: Omg I had to turn it off I can't at these celebs acting like people are out to "end them" just because they spread some legitimate comments they made in the past Like, no, relax, this isn't some underground conspiracy about your irrelevant career, stop making it seem like there was a SWAT team behind it Yes totally. Someone was just casually scrolling down thousands of his tweets when he was announced as the host and just found those 10 year old tweets by mistake. Give me a break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said: Yes totally. Someone was just casually scrolling down thousands of his tweets when he was announced as the host and just found those 10 year old tweets by mistake. Give me a break. I didn't say that Obviously there was intent here. But it's not like there was much effort behind it. That dollhouse tweet of him is INFAMOUS. It's super easy to recover that and spread it anew, that is not an attack, that is simply social media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 . I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,171 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Thomas P said: Okay I have a problem with this because, yes I agree that this trend of people digging up others past to destroy the reputations of others in Hollywood is sick and disgusting, but that doesn’t excuse what he said. I know that it’s been 10 years, and I know he’s apologized before, but ALL he had to do is just apologize again, this story would’ve been put to rest and we could call a spade a spade. What he’s done irks me because all I’ve seen him do is play the ****ing victim. Over and over again, I’ve seen this man claim that he’s the victim in the situation, and he’s taken no responsibility. That’s why I was mad at what he said. Literally the only reason why. I also don’t like Ellen thinking she has the all powerful voice to speak for all of us. This is exactly what I feel about this issue. I am done with this trend of diggin tweets from 1963 but I can’t see truth in him. Also Ellen... I don’t know, I used to really like her but lately I am getting weird vibes from her. If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,690 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I wonder if Ellen had said the N word years ago and someone brought it up, would Kevin Hart call the Academy to help re hire her? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2School4Cool 6,449 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I’m honestly surprised at all the hate towards Ellen. It is so important to know that people change. I’ve seen it with my eyes. I’ve seen people who were once homophobic realize they were wrong and are now the strongest allies I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen that homophobic parents change their minds once their child comes out to them. Barack Obama used to be against same-sex marriage but his daughters would tell him about their friends at school with two moms, and he changed his mind on the issue and ended up helping America legalize same sex marriage in all 50 states. Kevin Hart is capable of change, just like anyone else. And I’m sure that if Ellen, who has canceled homophobe’s appearances on her show, felt that he was homophobic she would not have had him on her show let alone show him support. I don’t believe he’s handled this entire thing perfectly, and I think he should still officially apologize, but Ellen wouldn’t support him if he wasn’t deserving of our respect. See The Best In Everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahYuko 1,002 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yes we know that people can change, that we shouldn't punish people for their sins forever. The question is, has he? Just because he (with some great reluctance and pushing, it seems) issued one or two PR team-authored apologies on Twitter doesn't necessarily mean he's changed profoundly as a person. It can simply be the ego of a man trying desperately to save face. It can be genuine too, but it's still early (yes, early) to draw any conclusion. We've seen him repeat the same crap in some interview from 2015, didn't we? That was just 3 years ago. think he did the right thing "stepping down" when he still didn't have it in him to immediately apologize wholeheartedly for saying the things he said, and not just "if it offended anyone" too. Maybe he indeed has seen the wrong in his ways; maybe he's transformed into a true ally. But y'know, it would have been nice to see this profound regret and resolution to improve himself when he wasn't facing consequences. In the current circumstances, there is no knowing for either sides of the debate whether or not he's left his prejudices behind. There is no way of seeing through blurred lenses; everyone is suspicious of everyone else. Come two or three years, we'll see where he is in life, what he says then, what things he promotes, what beliefs he holds. Until then, let him not host the show. Just leave the man be. This issue doesn't deserve the focus it has received. I criticize Ellen for trying too hard to give him a redemption arc as well, but nevertheless she too shouldn't receive the severity of the hate she gets for this. We all like to believe in the best of our good friends. She did what she thought was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoeanne 1,061 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Why are so many people on this site so willing to go out of their way to excuse rich, powerful people's homophobia? Yall act like these "jokes" weren't just as homophobic then as they are now and that he's since become a queer rights activist lol. Plenty of other people have had problematic tweets dug up and been just fine because they have records of being good people who probably just made a bad joke once. Kevin Hart isn't one of them. Homophobia has been a part of his routine for years. He released a a special in which he advocates for beating your child if you even think they might be gay ffs. Also, lmao finding tweets is easy, twitter has a search function. Most likely someone who knows about his homophobic bs spent 30 seconds to search "@kevinhart gay" and that was how they found the tweets. No one was wading through thousands of tweets in some desperate bid to smear him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 He claims to have apologised. Sure, his PR Team issued a typical apology re: the comments. He has never actually been recorded acknowledging his mistake and actually audibly apologising. All he can bring himself to say is that those tweets are in the past, and he's different now. If he was, he'd have looked the camera straight in the face and sincerely apologised for his idiocy and for his homophobia but he hasn't because he is still homophobic and an idiot. People do change, but not by saying they have. They change through visible actions, and he hasn't acted in a way that suggests a change re: his homophobia. Honestly not Ellen's finest work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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