joannesrats 26 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hey guys! I'm currently writing an arrangement of Shallow that kind of mixes up Ally's and Jackson's singing. I'm gonna structure it as follows in the spoiler, let me know what you guys think! The structure of the song has always felt a little bit awkward to me personally so I'm writing it how I would wanna hear it! Spoiler Jackson: Tell me something girl Are you happy in this modern world Or do you need more Is there something else you're searching for I'm falling, In all the good times I find myself longing For a change And in the bad times, I fear myself [CHORUS]: I'm off the deep end Watch as I dive in I'll never meet the ground Crash through the surface Where they can't hurt us We're far from the shallow now Ally: Tell me something boy Aren't you tired tryna fill that void Or do you need more Ain't it hard keepin' it so hardcore I'm falling, in all the good times I find myself longing For a change And in the bad times, I fear myself [CHORUS] Both: [BRIDGE]: In the shallow Sha-ha-low In the sha-ha-sha-ha-shallow In the shallow, sha-ha-ha-low, We're far from the shallow now Ally: (Final chorus building improvisation) Both: [CHORUS, Jackson harmonizing] Let me know what you guys think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidfigure 1,612 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The best way to rearrange Shallow is to follow the pattern of an ordinary duet song: 1st verse (Bradley) 1st chorus (Bradley) 2nd verse (Gaga) 2nd chorus (Gaga) [Sha-shallow part (Bradley & Gaga)] Bridge (Gaga) 3rd Chorus (Bradley & Gaga) [Sha-shallow part (Bradley & Gaga)] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, voidfigure said: The best way to rearrange Shallow is to follow the pattern of an ordinary duet song: 1st verse (Bradley) 1st chorus (Bradley) 2nd verse (Gaga) 2nd chorus (Gaga) [Sha-shallow part (Bradley & Gaga)] Bridge (Gaga) 3rd Chorus (Bradley & Gaga) [Sha-shallow part (Bradley & Gaga)] Yeah, that's almost exactly what I did (I have both singing the bridge). I understand why they wrote it the way they did, but it feels unbalanced imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I feel so happy that they decided to break the pattern of what pop music is right now. I'm tired of the same verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. We're having this pattern since I can't even remember when. I'm happy they created something different + I love the song how it is ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidfigure 1,612 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: I feel so happy that they decided to break the pattern of what pop music is right now. I'm tired of the same verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. We're having this pattern since I can't even remember when. I'm happy they created something different + I love the song how it is ! It has the structure of a pop song minus one chorus, which is missing because of the "improvisation" scene in the movie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat One Haha 10 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The song felt so short and unfinished though. datoneboi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, voidfigure said: It has the structure of a pop song minus one chorus, which is missing because of the "improvisation" scene in the movie. mhhh but both chorus are different than usual pop (first chorus being almost acoustic and second having dramatic drums). + the verses are acoustic as well. The beat is very uncommon, as the song progression, the chords, the song structure, the guitar melody, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think if you have them swap their "I'm falling" bits so it's like an admission. Bradley: tell me something girl etc Gaga: I'm falling etc Bradley (one line) "I'm falling.." Then Gaga "tell me something boy" Bradley "I'm falling etc" *chorus* Wailing Chorus Shahahalow End. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Kids 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 if there is a way to filter out their vocals separately it'll be great too. love your idea. And when you say my name, like white horses on the waves, I think it feels the same, as an ocean in my veins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPRS 1,431 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: I feel so happy that they decided to break the pattern of what pop music is right now. I'm tired of the same verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus. We're having this pattern since I can't even remember when. I'm happy they created something different + I love the song how it is ! I agree. I was a bit off about it when I first heard the song but now I’m happy they didn’t make the song the same pattern. 1 hour ago, Dat One Haha said: The song felt so short and unfinished though. I think maybe if they added a guitar solo/instrumental part in between the chorus and bridge it would’ve been longer and not disrupt the story line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidfigure 1,612 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: mhhh but both chorus are different than usual pop (first chorus being almost acoustic and second having dramatic drums). + the verses are acoustic as well. The beat is very uncommon, as the song progression, the chords, the song structure, the guitar melody, etc. That's because it's not a pop song. It's an acoustic rock song, so the sound builds up from slow to full-force throughout the song. But the structure is an average song with a missing chorus (I'm not shading the song or anything, it's just the way it is ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 hours ago, voidfigure said: That's because it's not a pop song. It's an acoustic rock song, so the sound builds up from slow to full-force throughout the song. But the structure is an average song with a missing chorus (I'm not shading the song or anything, it's just the way it is ) but I'm just wandering who you are to say that there is a missing chorus? why does it have to have 3 chorus? where is it written? It is music ! if someone gets a little bit away from the usual pattern you consider that something is missing? That's not a very open-minded statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidfigure 1,612 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: but I'm just wandering who you are to say that there is a missing chorus? why does it have to have 3 chorus? where is it written? It is music ! if someone gets a little bit away from the usual pattern you consider that something is missing? That's not a very open-minded statement Again, I'm not shading the song. I love it, but I'm just saying that it has a typical pop song structure minus a chorus (the usual pattern is three choruses) and it's fine as it is. The original post was about rearranging it, I was just discussing. I didn't personally offend you, offend Gaga, Bradley Cooper, Warner Brothers, the music industry, your family or anything. Some of you really see shade and negativity everywhere. And I didn't say a missing chorus is a bad thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,530 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I know this thread was made just for fun, but I've seen some fans with such a need to change the song and I don't understand why? It's beautiful as it is. Bradley is not a good vocalist, why let him sing such a big explosive chorus? he'd fail horribly. Letting Gaga command and overpower 2/3 of the song makes perfect sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 hours ago, PhillipBagshaw said: Hey guys! I'm currently writing an arrangement of Shallow that kind of mixes up Ally's and Jackson's singing. I'm gonna structure it as follows in the spoiler, let me know what you guys think! The structure of the song has always felt a little bit awkward to me personally so I'm writing it how I would wanna hear it! Hide contents Ally: Tell me something boy Aren't you tired tryna fill that void Or do you need more Ain't it hard keepin' it so hardcore I'm falling, in all the good times I find myself longing For a change And in the bad times, I fear myself I think they should harmonise on that part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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