Economy 53,072 Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: I agree kind of that governments don’t want a cure being found, but at the same time I am not one of those extreme conspiracy theorists who believe the government is purposely hiding the cure. Honestly, I just don’t think that they’re smart enough. I don’t believe in a single cure- there’s probably just as many cures for cancer as there are different types of cancer. Why should there be ONE cure when there are MANY causes? If it works for you or your loved one (eg like cannabis oil) then it should be approved and taxed/regulated so everyone wins. Nobody should have to break the law to try something that might work for them when everything else they have tried has not worked. Healthcare is governments biggest expense in most Nations I don't see what they'd gain from witholding cures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I thought the problem with cancer was that it's basically just uncontrolled cell reproduction...don't we want our cells to replicate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,072 Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bionic said: I thought the problem with cancer was that it's basically just uncontrolled cell reproduction...don't we want our cells to replicate? Yes but when they replicate too fast they create clumps of organic tissue that are just sucking up energy and nutrients and not really doing anything Also these cells become dysfunctional in other ways not just reproducing fast and they become problematic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Economy said: Healthcare is governments biggest expense in most Nations I don't see what they'd gain from witholding cures I said the government doesn’t have the cure They’re not smart enough to either know or to keep a secret Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Economy said: Yes but when they replicate too fast they create clumps of organic tissue that are just sucking up energy and nutrients and not really doing anything Also these cells become dysfunctional in other ways not just reproducing fast and they become problematic How do they know which are cancerous and not just normal cell reproduction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Everything about this makes me sad considering my mother is on her deathbed right now after exhausting all possible treatments available for her disease progression and cancer type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,072 Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, bionic said: How do they know which are cancerous and not just normal cell reproduction? Well first of all they are clumped in tumours from cell growth They also have incredibly short telemers (telemers shrink everytime a cell divides in fact it's believed to be part of aging) compared to normal cells (even compared to healthy cells in an old person) There's also a few other ways they can identify it but I don't remember how I know cancer cells create some enzyme thanks to a mutation that allows them to keep dividing despite super short telemers (normal cells stop dividing once telemers get shorter than a certain point but cancer cells still divide) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said: Everything about this makes me sad considering my mother is on her deathbed right now after exhausting all possible treatments available for her disease progression and cancer type. What about ketosis (starving the cells)? Please look into it. Prayers xo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Economy said: U know I used to think ppl were paranoid with their conspiracy theories about cancer treatments being intentionally witheld... But I'm seriously starting to wonder now about certain things cause every so often u hear about a great new treatment and it never seems to become widely available... Like ever! For f*cks sake. We've been using radiation and chemo for decades now and billions into research every year and decades later were still using the exact same treatments (only a little more advanced) I know a group here in Mexico that made their own medicine, they have cured people of all kinds of cancer, diabetes, and pretty much anything you can think of. They were blocked by the big pharma companies and arent allowed to promote their medicine in any way, and ordered them to label it as "alternative". So you only find them by recommendations and friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 So does this also solve the cancer that is called Trump? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,072 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 4:29 PM, bionic said: How do they know which are cancerous and not just normal cell reproduction? Visually as I've said they form tomours To know for sure if a tomours is caused by cancer cells they must take cells individually and analyse them. They have distinctions from regular cells such as extremely short telemers for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Alien 431 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 There's a natural cure. Here in Vietnam, patients with lymphoma, breast, lung cancer who were rejected by modern doctors got cured by people in the rural forest area. They watch animal behaviors and they found a kind of indigenous bird who use herbals to heal their newborn from broken bone and diseases. Locals look for that specific herb and surprisingly, it's all effective on cancer. Sad truth is, they got no sponsor and access to the plant is very restricted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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