BawBaw 2,040 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 23 hours ago, Lazz Monster said: umm what? in 2013 when RIAA converted the YouTube views into sales they used a ratio of 100 streams = 1 sale + used the WW numbers for US certification not only the US views !! but they saw that the sales are too inflated and came with a new ratio of 150 streams = 1 sale + only views from US to count and BR benefited the Ratio 100 /1 sale + WW numbers and got certified Diamond ! ( Interscope knew exactly when to pay for that certification for BR and gave her a Diamond single ) BR sales in US are 5.8 million and the rest 4.2 came (in 2013) from streaming which is impossible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bloody Grammys said: I don't think PI is elegible for Plat in the US yet You just made me look for the receipts on ATRL. Perfect Illusion Sales : 280k Spotify : 40M Youtube : 35M Others : 20M SPS streams : 580kTotal : 860k and this was half a year ago. 19 minutes ago, BibleThisWay said: Ummm What? It's already at 1.4M SPS in the US, obviously has a very good chance at reaching 4x Platinum Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleThisWay 4,370 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Swallow said: What? It's already at 1.4M SPS in the US, obviously has a very good chance at reaching 4x Platinum Sis it's only reached 1.4M SPS and the movie cycle is practically finished. It'll get some nice boosts from awards season but I think 3X Platinum by end of 2019 is even a stretch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, BawBaw said: in 2015 when RIAA converted the YouTube streams into sales they used a ratio of 150 streams = 1 sale but they saw that the sales are too inflated and came with a new ratio of 1150 streams = 1 sale and BR benefited the Ratio 150 /1 sale and got certified DIamond ! ( Interscope knew exactly when to pay for that certification for BR and gave her a Diamond single ) BR sales in US are 5.8 million and the rest 4.2 came from streaming which is impossible because she would have to pull billions of views on YT for BR with the 1150 /1 sale ratio well, at least we can say she has 2 diamond singles, let's leave the explanation out of it I'm curious though, do you know any other diamond singles who wouldn't be diamond cuz of this? We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Shallow will hit 2x Plat and crawl to 3x like MR except it actually has a chance at 3x 4x is an absolute no. Its selling too little per week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawBaw 2,040 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lazz Monster said: well, at least we can say she has 2 diamond singles, let's leave the explanation out of it I'm curious though, do you know any other diamond singles who wouldn't be diamond cuz of this? Baby by Justin sold 4 mil pure and is certified 13 x Platinum in US because of that ratio In 2013 there weren't as many MV with billions of views because YT peaked in 2014-2015 so BR was in 2013 one of the most views MV on YT and that's why that ratio brought that many ''sales'' . BR deserve the DIAMOND status because it was a momoth on YT when was harder to have millions of vieews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, BawBaw said: she's not that undercertified in US as y'all make it to be WTF. You obviously know nothing when it comes to certifications Bad Romance & Poker Face were certified 11x & 10x Platinum in 2015. This is the SPS they made 2 years later (2017), after the Superbowl : Bad Romance (2017) Sales: 120,000 Spotify: 133,000 (20M streams) Youtube: 300,000 (45M streams) Others: 67,000 (10M streams / rough estimation) = 620,000 11x Platinum + 622k (til 2017), more than obvious it's eligible for 12x Platinum by now. __________________________________________ Poker Face (2017) Sales: 120,000 Spotify: 133,000 (20M streams) Youtube: 213,000 (32M streams) Others: 67,000 (10M streams / rough estimation) = 533,000 10x Platinum + 533k (til 2017), again it's more than obvious it's eligible for 11x Platinum by now. And as for the rest of the nonsense you stated.....I have no words Telephone "max 4x Platinum" when it sold 3.6M pure copies? Gurl bye. How is DWUW at 1.5M SPS "max" in the US?! For ****s sake, it's at 1.3M PURE copies sold Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Arturo said: Shallow will hit 2x Plat and crawl to 3x like MR except it actually has a chance at 3x 4x is an absolute no. Its selling too little per week. Well you said you see it peaking at 600k in pure sales, so of course you think it can't reach 4x Platinum I see it peaking at 1.2M pure sales by the end of next year Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Shallow is not reaching 3x platinum, let alone 4x platinum. It also isn't reaching 1m pure. 800k is its ceiling, and even that is a reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, BawBaw said: in 2013 when RIAA converted the YouTube streams into sales they used a ratio of 150 streams = 1 sale but they saw that the sales are too inflated and came with a new ratio of 1150 streams = 1 sale and BR benefited the Ratio 150 /1 sale and got certified DIamond ! ( Interscope knew exactly when to pay for that certification for BR and gave her a Diamond single ) BR sales in US are 5.8 million and the rest 4.2 came from streaming which is impossible because she would have to pull billions of views on YT for BR with the 1150 /1 sale ratio this applies only to NEW singles. Just like in Germany they changed the rules (200k Gold, 400k Platinum) years ago, and yet Applause, DWUW, TEOG and other Gaga singles were certified Gold and Platinum with 150k and 300k units recently. Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swallow 12,052 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said: Shallow is not reaching 3x platinum, let alone 4x platinum. It also isn't reaching 1m pure. 800k is its ceiling, and even that is a reach. Sales right now 440k. 1/3 - 15k (this week) 1/11 - 40k (Golden Globes week) 1/18 - 20k (Critics Choice awards) 1/25 - 15k (Oscars nominations announced) 2/1 - 15k (SAG awards) 2/8 - 10k 2/15 - 30k (Grammys) 2/22 - 20k (Post Grammy, Oscar buzz) 3/1 - 70k (Oscars) 3/7 - 20k (post Oscars week) 3/14 - 8k 3/21 - 8k 3/29 - 5k 4/4 - 5k 4/11 - 5k 4/18 - 3k 4/25 - 3k 5/2 - 3k 5/9 - 3k 5/16 - 3k 5/23 - 2k 5/30 - 2k 6/6 - 2k 6/13 - 2k 6/20 - 1k 6/27 - 1k 7/4 - 1k 7/11 - 1k 7/18 - 1k 7/25 - 1k = 760k total pure copies sold til July '19. and this is ONLY if the sales CRASH. the song will obviously become a classic and keep selling Es solo una paja entre colegas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Y'all talk about Shallow reaching 3x or 4x platinum but will Interscope even bother to certify it to begin with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, LGMonster95 said: Y'all talk about Shallow reaching 3x or 4x platinum but will Interscope even bother to certify it to begin with? Especially after award season is done We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Vandeburg 6,966 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 New York Times predictions: Best Original Song — Motion Picture There is no way on Gaga’s green earth that 'Shallow' will lose this Globe. If the presenter happens to read a different name, expect a phalanx of producers to storm the stage, just to make sure there hasn’t been a 'Moonlight'/'La La Land' mix-up. Best Actress in a Motion Picture — Drama This particular contest will come down to the veteran Close and the pop star Gaga. Close is a 15-time Globe nominee who’s won twice for television performances, while Gaga won the only Globe she was nominated for before, thanks to her performance in the 2015 TV show “American Horror Story: Hotel.” Globes voters know that Gaga would deliver a capital-M moment if she wins, and that will probably tip the scales in her favor. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/movies/golden-globes-predictions.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawBaw 2,040 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Swallow said: Well you said you see it peaking at 600k in pure sales, so of course you think it can't reach 4x Platinum I see it peaking at 1.2M pure sales by the end of next year IN US?! because it's not gonna happen 1!! even 3x PLAT in a streach !! the 2x PLAT is guaranteed as the song's weekly sales right now not even 3x PLAT is achievable !! 10 minutes ago, Swallow said: WTF. You obviously know nothing when it comes to certifications Bad Romance & Poker Face were certified 11x & 10x Platinum in 2015. This is the SPS they made 2 years later (2017), after the Superbowl : Bad Romance (2017) Sales: 120,000 Spotify: 133,000 (20M streams)Youtube: 300,000 (45M streams) WRONG RATIO !! AGAIN Others: 67,000 (10M streams / rough estimation) = 620,000 11x Platinum + 622k (til 2017), more than obvious it's eligible for 12x Platinum by now. __________________________________________ Poker Face (2017) Sales: 120,000 Spotify: 133,000 (20M streams)Youtube: 213,000 (32M streams) WRONG RATIO !!! FOR YOUTUBE IS 1150 = 1 sale not 150 as SPOTIFY !!!! Others: 67,000 (10M streams / rough estimation) = 533,000 10x Platinum + 533k (til 2017), again it's more than obvious it's eligible for 11x Platinum by now. And as for the rest of the nonsense you stated.....I have no words Telephone "max 4x Platinum" when it sold 3.6M pure copies? Gurl bye. How is DWUW at 1.5M SPS "max" in the US?! For ****s sake, it's at 1.3M PURE copies sold BR was certified 10 x = DIAMOND in 2013 !!!! 10x Multi-Platinum | May 9, 2013 BAD ROMANCE SOLD 5.8 PURE IN US AS PER BILLBOARD TO PULL 4.2 MIL SALES FROM STREAMING/VIEWS SHE WOULD NEED 4.2 MIL * 150 STREAMS = 630 MIL SPOTIFY STREAMS IN US ONLY !!1 WHEN THE SONG IS NOT AT EVEN 300 MIL ww. AND FOR YOUTUBE SHE WOULD NEED 4.2 * 1150 = 4.8 BILLION VIEWS JUST FROM US !!! NOW YOU SEE HOW THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE AND THEY CAN'T CERTIFY BR FURTHER AS THE SONG IS ALREADY OVER CERTIFIED Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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