bloody g 31,731 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Hello fellow liddos. I bring you a theory I came up with while I took a shower last night. For those who don't know my theories are known for being a reach and a mess so fasten your seatbelts While both verses from Shallow are obviously written for the movie, the chorus just seems off. I can't get over it. I understand it is a metaphor, but I just don't see how this song talks about Ally and Jackson. There are two common theories about the lyrics chorus: 1- The first theory says that it talks about Ally breaking through as an artist. I just don't see it. Why would Ally, someone who doesn't have faith in herself, write about herself like that? Also it says "we" so it's clearly not about just herself. 2- Written about both Jackson and Ally. This would only make sense if "shallow" was used as it's literal meaning and create some sort of "pun" with breaking through the surface. You know, because Jackson loves Ally no matter how she looks like, so he is far from shallow. Isn't it too complex? I know Both seem off to me. However, I saw the little marmaid yesterday and remembered all the octopuses and mermaid emoji's in Gaga's IG stories. And thinking about Shallow's lyrics it all matches. Shallow is actually about herself, about Lady Gaga. She uses the metaphor as she sees herself embodying a mermaid. When she says "I'll never meet the ground", it can be taken as it is, bc she lives in the water. Moreover, if you change the lyrics to make it singular (since obv there's no Jackson in LG6), the chorus would go like this: I'm off the deep end, watch as I dive in I'll never meet the ground Crash through the surface where they can't hurt me I'm far from the shallow now It sounds even better, since me now rhymes with in. The lyrics are now about Gaga protecting herself under the surface (her persona) in order to not meet the ground (reality). Also, Shallow has the "Sha-ha sha-low" which are extremely common in Gaga's biggest pop hits like: ra-ra-roma-ma, po-po-po-poker face, ale-ale-jandro, juda-juda-as (etc ) This mumbling never shows again in other ASIB song (besides Why Did You Do That?, but she repeats words, not syllabes), so it's clearly not Ally's style of writing songs. What do you think? I think I shouldn't spend my little free time in writing essays in Gaga's forum 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 26,525 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Gaga said that her and Robson wrote Shallow through the perspective of Ally, so nah lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frivolero 3,695 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 spoiler Spoiler no because it is essential in my theory that the illuminati wanted to make ally miserable so the most worst thing they could do is actually not killing ally but killing the one she treasured the most same with Ariana etc. irl sh00k ya'll sh00k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid LePage 4,773 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 she wrote this like early 2017, allegedly in the LG5 era too. with gaga teasing this album to be an electro **** show, do you really think she finally pull out the feathered hat and sing yeehaw ****? girl bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frivolero 3,695 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 another spoiler Spoiler I also believe that the lyrics in arutw so when I'm all choked up But I can't find the words Every time we say goodbye Baby, it hurts this was foreshadowing how tight Bradley's belt was going to be in his garage ya'll sh00k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Stop this nonsense; Gaga and Mark have said it was written for the film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AStarIsBorn21 3,714 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bloody Grammys said: For those who don't know my theories are known for being a reach and a mess so fasten your seatbelts 1 minute ago, Frivolero said: another spoiler Hide contents I also believe that the lyrics in arutw so when I'm all choked up But I can't find the words Every time we say goodbye Baby, it hurts this was foreshadowing how tight Bradley's belt was going to be in his garage ya'll sh00k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frivolero 3,695 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, AStarIsBorn21 said: Henny stay pressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgin Ryan 1,294 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Inb4 but she works with bloodpop, sophie, and boyz noize for LG6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayGagaloo 16,152 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 We already know it's not So why wasting your energy Over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 It was actually written for LG9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Vandeburg 6,966 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Aparently that chorus is a reference to the film's original script. Mark Ronson has talked about it recently: “Gaga was writing from the standpoint of Ally as an end credit song, because in the original script Bradley’s character drowns,” said co-writer Mark Ronson. But somehow Bradley decided that they were going to work it into the script as a duet. It’s a really good song that the movie turned into a really great song, and that’s the best you can hope for.” https://www.indiewire.com/2018/11/lady-gaga-shallow-a-star-is-born-best-original-song-oscars-1202023992/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipz 1,197 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 No,it was written for the movie, during the Joanne album writings in 2016, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 We know it was written for the music, specifically for the last scene, so don’t waste your imagination here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,731 Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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