weed 73,742 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Lighter said: Traditional renaissance art specifically? I think that’s how i see it she referenced that, surrealism, lots of performance art (maybe the entire era was a performance lol), pop art, technology-infused art, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACT2 3,267 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 ARTPOP is about art and pop being together but letting Art being in the front That's Gossip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Dominic said: Venus was written last, a couple months before the release, and that's the most Godly/Planetary song so I don't think she was going for that theme originally. I don't think she had an original idea, she was asking LMs if she should do Act 2 etc so it seems as if she had a concept but just couldn't execute it fully. I honestly don't think Gaga knows what AP is anymore. Ok but GUY was one of the first and that's thematically from the same book. Also in a crazy reach, she wore Hermes during this time and made a point of it. The god of travel. Reeaacchh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagafordope 34 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 My thoughts on ARTPOP was that it was about what she foreshadowed in the beginning of her career: that pop music could be highbrow entertainment, on par with traditional art. You can see this connection in a couple places, like the art on the album cover behind her and the bright pops of pink, and then the references to older art in the music (which is so interesting because she's referencing older art with the modern elements of electronic/pop music)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftFameMonster 2,527 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Gagafordope said: My thoughts on ARTPOP was that it was about what she foreshadowed in the beginning of her career: that pop music could be highbrow entertainment, on par with traditional art. You can see this connection in a couple places, like the art on the album cover behind her and the bright pops of pink, and then the references to older art in the music (which is so interesting because she's referencing older art with the modern elements of electronic/pop music)! Best answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woohoo 6,534 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 art + pop = lady gaga + little monsters = you + the world = ------------------------------------------------------------- She gave out a speech about the album's meaning during the iTunes Festivals "I heard if you record Gaga snoring and play it backward it sounds like an act. 2 unreleased." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 about rebellion through art and satires Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Woohoo said: art + pop = lady gaga + little monsters = you + the world = ------------------------------------------------------------- She gave out a speech about the album's meaning during the iTunes Festivals She gave many different speech about the album meaning throughout the whole era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJAG 1,597 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Jorget said: This is it sis. This is ARTPOP. At the end when she says "When you look back at my career" and her videography plays.. it's so powerful. HER MIND Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 33,458 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 ARTPOP was the natural conclusion of the exploration of fame she'd covered in her prior three albums. The Fame was an ironic take on celebrity that satirized its more vapid elements (without cheapening it, flat-out stating that pop music was high-brow and should be taken seriously, as art) while basking in its excess and subtly exposing the cruelty inherent in that lifestyle, all while espousing the notion that fame was a mindset and that anyone was worthy of it (populist queen!). The Fame Monster exposed what it was like to actually live the life of a celebrity, focusing more heavily on the painful and dehumanizing aspects of being made into an idea, a piece of meat offered up for mass consumption, alienated from other human beings. Born This Way was expressly about fame and celebrity as activism, about Gaga as an icon that her fans could look up to while she used the position she'd been given to speak out about feminism, LGBT rights, racism, immigration rights, etc. ARTPOP takes all of that to new level of ironic detachment. It's a self-reflexive interrogation of her public persona and her place within pop culture. She took on the mantel of other iconic pop stars ("I'm every icon"), ramped her re-appropriation of pop iconography up to 11 in her performances and promotional campaign and started incorporating pieces from the art world that had the aura of respectability that isn't afforded to pop music ("pop music will never be low brow"). It was the natural conclusion of what she'd started with The Fame; she'd become a part of pop iconography, so she re-appropriated her own image, showing what it was like to be the human being behind the "Lady Gaga" image that the public had in their minds by talking about insanely personal moments form her life (the girl behind the aura). She talked about her rape explicitly for the first time in Swine (she'd vaguely touched on it in the Yoü and I video before), talked about running away from celebrity and her abusing drugs to cope (Mary Jane Holland, Dope), talked about her love life within the context of her being a celebrity (Sexxx Dreams being about sex with all of society's expectations being on her mind, about filthy fantasies while under public scrutiny), etc. etc. I could go on forever. Sonically, it's messy, but there's definitely an overarching theme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetsTryinWrite 1,262 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Freedom of expression, the right to be wrong and failure leading to learning, love and addiction. Defend Your Humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Actually it did have a meaning. It was about taking all your failures, worries, doubts, fears, mistakes, traumas and twisting them into a bright explosion of sound and art....thus bridging together the worlds of pop and art together once more. An expression of anger disguised as rave thus becoming the rave. Basically it's all how you make it to be. If you sit around in self loathing and worry, you will become that. But if you twist it into brightness, you will come out on the other side of it better and more positive. It's a very clear and very cool theme if ya ask me! The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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