SirLudicopro 1,351 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I mean Revival got 50 on Metacritic and Flower Boy got 84 so 🤷🏻♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlejandroooO 515 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry said: Yes homophobic abuse is really "fun". I don't care who he is or how many records he has sold. It's 2018 and this language can't be deemed as acceptable anymore, whether he's hiding behind a character or not. The history of this word is not the same as the n-word, I realise that, but he wouldn't dare use that as a "metaphor" or "just for fun", particularly aimed at a black person. Here he's literally using it to attack a queer man. I'm tired of this excuse. I don't think that he's a homophobe. But continuing to normalise this language is gross, particularly in this context. It just means that all of the (young) people that idolise him will keep on thinking it's okay to talk like that. It isn't. How is Tyler queer when he use the F word all the time ? It's not abuse when someone already ain't gay plus if you're a Eminem fan you'll know that he used this word particularly for Tyler to mock him just because Tyler use it all the time so he's not using it in a homophobic way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikola 4,342 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Burn the bitch I've got an "F" and a "C" and I got a "K" too And the only thing that is missing is a bitch like "U" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlejandroooO 515 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Harry said: lol revival got crap reviews and barely sold 1m ww I'm talking about the norm not an album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,620 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Hmm I was coming into this thread being all "omg Eminem has been using Bad Wordz since forever and he isn't about to stop now, I cant believe anyone would actually be shocked to hear this, hardly news, move on" etc. but yall have convinced me otherwise 🤔 Time to move on Marshall. Glow up n grow up. Too talented to need to turn to stale shock tactics every time, career too long for it to be cute and cheeky anymore. My old cat is a tough man, but i cant deny the way he bites my hand and he stabs me, he grabs me by my heart <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoeanne 1,061 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlejandroooO said: How is Tyler queer when he use the F word all the time ? It's not abuse when someone already ain't gay plus if you're a Eminem fan you'll know that he used this word particularly for Tyler to mock him just because Tyler use it all the time so he's not using it in a homophobic way. Tyler is queer because he’s attracted to men. Us queers get to reclaim language used to harm us to re-empower ourselves and work through the trama they in flicked. Straight people don’t get to use those words in a deliberate attempt to inflict more trauma. It’s simple, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, AlejandroooO said: How is Tyler queer when he use the F word all the time ? It's not abuse when someone already ain't gay plus if you're a Eminem fan you'll know that he used this word particularly for Tyler to mock him just because Tyler use it all the time so he's not using it in a homophobic way. Yes... that is how it works. I could say that word all I like, but it wouldn't make me any less gay. For the record, I don't necessarily agree with Tyler's use of it either. And he came out - he is queer. It wouldn't even matter either if Tyler was straight. He's using a homophobic slur as an insult, point blank. If you can't see that using a gay slur to "mock" somebody isn't right, then I don't know what to tell you. The whole point of that word is to ridicule gay people. You can't use it and it not be homophobic in the same way that a non-black person can't use the n-word and then claim they aren't using it in a racist way. To suggest otherwise is just delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNES 5,866 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 38 minutes ago, radioactive said: This is going to be forgotten by tommorow if it’s even going to get attention. but if a female artist said something like this there’ll be chaos... imagine if azealia banks or iggy azalea said that.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlejandroooO 515 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoeanne said: Tyler is queer because he’s attracted to men. Us queers get to reclaim language used to harm us to re-empower ourselves and work through the trama they in flicked. Straight people don’t get to use those words in a deliberate attempt to inflict more trauma. It’s simple, really. Wow so the rules now if you're gay you can say fa***t. All I'm saying is Eminem used that word for Tyler as Tyler use it all the time so it was wordplay that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarlightSeiya 1,242 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Why are you guys more offended than the actual queer person he was talking about? It's like you guys looking for an excuse to be offended. Bone Apple Tea bebe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoeanne 1,061 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, AlejandroooO said: Wow so the rules now if you're gay you can say fa***t. I mean yeah. That’s been the rule forever, actually. Hell, the word “queer” is a word that was used as a slur again us and now it’s an academic term and umbrella label. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlejandroooO 515 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harry said: Yes... that is how it works. I could say that word all I like, but it wouldn't make me any less gay. For the record, I don't necessarily agree with Tyler's use of it either. And he came out - he is queer. It wouldn't even matter either if Tyler was straight. He's using a homophobic slur as an insult, point blank. If you can't see that using a gay slur to "mock" somebody isn't right, then I don't know what to tell you. The whole point of that word is to ridicule gay people. You can't use it and it not be homophobic in the same way that a non-black person can't use the n-word and then claim they aren't using it in a racist way. To suggest otherwise is just delusional. I'm not giving execuses for Eminem or anyone to use that word. Just saying he referenced Tyler with it cause Tyler use it all the time. That's how they do it all the time in the Rap world. So it's not homophobia it's wordplay or a Hip Hop game between Eminem and Tyler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
komronjoel 1,549 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, StarlightSeiya said: Why are you guys more offended than the actual queer person he was talking about? It's like you guys looking for an excuse to be offended. Watch yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorist 1,161 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, AlejandroooO said: He meant no harm also that's something common in the Rap world. He didn't grab you and force you to listen to his music or Rap. yeah because if the holocaust wasn't obligatory it would be all OK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorist 1,161 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, StarlightSeiya said: Why are you guys more offended than the actual queer person he was talking about? It's like you guys looking for an excuse to be offended. lol yes because insulting a whole group of people it's not a reason to be offended! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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