LordEnigma 11,313 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, elijahfan said: Actually I do, because there's something called justice in our society. So if Gaga worked with Harvey Weinstein or Dr. Luke, you’d be ok with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,331 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: So if Gaga worked with Harvey Weinstein or Dr. Luke, you’d be ok with it? Since they've both assaulted people she personally knows, that'd be hard to imagine her working with them... But if you read my initial post, I'm saying that Gaga is easily blinded when it comes to her friends - people just want to see the best out of their friends, and this has been witnessed multiple times in the case of Weinstein, with all these actors still working with him perfectly knowing of the rumors back in the days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, elijahfan said: Since they've both assaulted people she personally knows, that'd be hard to imagine her working with them... But if you read my initial post, I'm saying that Gaga is easily blinded when it comes to her friends - people just want to see the best out of their friends, and this has been witnessed multiple times in the case of Weinstein, with all these actors still working with him perfectly knowing of the rumors back in the days. I’m talking about as if she didn’t know the victims personally. Let’s pretend. It’s just a complete double standard for us to tear a celebrity down when a person we stand for has done the same (but we give her excuses). And for the presumption of innocence, I believe it’s very biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezbear91 746 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I don’t like Nicki as a person from videos of her with other people. And the arrogant as fuuuck comment she made about cardi b not saying thank you to her for being on the track with her saying that though I do really like her music and I’m interested in her new album to drop. Chun Li and BED have been some of my summer bops battle for your life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,331 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: I’m talking about as if she didn’t know the victims personally. Let’s pretend. It’s just a complete double standard for us to tear a celebrity down when a person we stand for has done the same (but we give her excuses). And for the presumption of innocence, I believe it’s very biased. Well, am I personally happy that Gaga has worked with R. Kelly or Richardson? No. Am I trying to understand where she was coming from? Yeah, because I know Gaga and her heart. As for Nicki, she's made quite a rep for herself, and that story sure ain't helping it - I'm fairly sure she'll have her biased fans to defend her, and it's all good as far as I'm concerned. But I just won't be one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,894 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Spot on, although not the most professional spin for Forbes. I just wish they focused on the reasons why she's doing this more than just accusations. Is her alleged pill addiction playing any role in her bizarre career decisions lately? At this rate, I'm wondering if the album's even coming out next month. Its just under 2 weeks away and the tracklist still hasn't been revealed. If this bad press keeps on going, who knows what will happen? On 7/25/2018 at 8:23 PM, Saint Laurent said: The thing is though, it's not going to be very popular at all so I don't particularly see why it's necessary to give this person and the song more publicity than it deserves. As for Nicki, I am tending to lean on the side of her not (or barely) even knowing about this. Everybody needs to appreciate that artists are very busy and do not consume all of the news/scandals etc. that us fans do. Even still, I do have sympathy for Nicki, she's a great (not iconic, but still great) artist who is constantly **** on for no real reason. I could't even imagine how much will power it would take to remain relevant in a vastly male dominated genre, especially when there isn't a sense of sisterhood on the female rap scene. Also, Nicki is not making that much money (even though it's still much more than the average person) because she is not a touring force, doesn't sell very much (about average or just below) and, to my knowledge, has barely any brand deals or anything like that. So, if she needs to rap a verse for someone for 250k to pay for people's tuition, pay her mortgage, give to charity or maintain her career then that's fine with me. The most important thing to remember is to keep things in perspective. The song is not much (if any) more popular because of Nicki's presence so I don't think she's helping an paedophile make more money and realistically, she's not the paedophile. So, if she wants to exploit the paedophile to make money then that is a ok with me. Reveal hidden contents P.s. NOT a nicki stan whatsoever I don't buy the "maybe she didn't know" concept. All it takes is a quick Wikipedia search and it's all there. If anyone off the street can do that, then famous rappers will know everything that goes on in their own community. When Harvey Weinstein was outed, Jessica Chastain said "We all knew." Rumours and dark secrets pass around in celebrity communities and they know what everyone's up to. There's a reason why you'll also never get two big names releasing an album in the same week - they're all in the know about who's releasing what and when. I even suspect singers clear any potential releases when they've heard through the grapevine that a big name might be surprise releasing soon (Nicki delayed her album which was planned to be released a week before Bey and Jay's surprise joint album release and Kanye changed at the last minute the name of his album which had an eerily similar title to the joint album). So, I don't believe that artists are in the dark about the details of other artists personal life. Even if they don't know initially, all the information is out there. Celebrities rely on their phones - don't tell me they couldn't do a quick Wikipedia search whenever they're asked to provide a verse for a singer. And she still releases her perfumes and is a Tidal stakeholder, so she's still earning money in many ways. And she's doing multiple verses for artists every year, which means she's raking it in. In 2017, she apparently had a net worth of $75 million, making her the highest paid woman in rap. I don't think she's in need of money by doing verses with any old trash. 22 hours ago, freebit said: I'll be genuinely surprised if she faces an actual media backlash because she's been like teflon (even pop's resident cool girl Rihanna had a period of being bashed by the media & blogs). She's gotten away with referring to black girls as chimpanzees & nappy headed hos, as well as including slut shaming, and homophobia in her work, yet is still worshipped by tumblr & most feminists (Roxann Gay wrote a fawning puff piece on Nicki a while back). I'm not surprised she has doubled down & is adding 6ix9ine to the tour because she rarely faces any kind of repercussions when she does something messy. She also has people with influence like Karen Civil looking out for her, so I do not feel sorry for Nicki Minaj. She'll get by. Thanks for bringing this up. I thought I was the only one who cared about these blatantly mean references she makes in her songs. I thought in the SJW age, she'd be dragged for this stuff, but it seems to pass many by. There was a lot of criticism around her during Anaconda but little was made of the fact that she chose a jungle setting and had images of bananas in a video that heavily featured big bootied black women. I mean, you know a white rapper would get dragged for racial fetishisation and racism if they did that. I think rappers get away with so much in general that other artists don't and see it as rather unfair. In pop music, you just need one messy act to screw you over for life. Rappers get caught with weapons, lie in court, go to jail, etc. and the public don't seem to care and they still get invited to award shows and even get nominated for Grammys. Reminds me a bit of the joke Seth Rogen made when Chris Brown was getting glorified at the Grammys despite beating up Rihanna: "The Grammys are so much more forgiving than the Oscars. You say a few hateful things, they don't let you within 100 yards of the Oscars. You could literally beat the s**t out of a nominee, they ask you to perform twice at the Grammys!" 22 hours ago, thickandpetite said: I don't think she knew he was convicted a pedophile. If she did, I'm sure she wouldn't have collaborated with him. He was never really extremely successful in the first place. Yes, I do agree that this doesn't look good for her but didn't Gaga collaborate with a pedophile as well? She NEVER EVER defended her brother, where are you even getting this from..? She never spoke on that matter. Chun-Li might have not done well commercially as some of her previous singles have but it still was a top 10 hit. She's CONSTANTLY critiqued. I don't think she ever really tried to bring down anyone either, she's always supported people who did better than her. I do respect your opinion though and I understand that not everyone likes her. According to Remy Ma, Nicki paid for her brother's wedding. If that's not support, I don't know what is. I mean, even his wife left him when she found out. She also never denied Remy's accusation. Out of everything she accused of her of, this was the worst, so if she's not denying it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 12 hours ago, sipthistea said: Well, it's not really a small thing the reason why they're attacking her but ok, if you consider it a small thing that's upon you. Sure, she can continue working with whoever she wants to but then expect some backlash because she keeps working with a sexual predator. And I haven't seen Gaga working with Terry Richardson or R Kelly lately. If she kept doing it, she can also expect some backlash because that would be hypocrisy as well. My point was that people attack her for anything nowadays. It’s the new trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 15 hours ago, ryanripley said: WHY are people constantly bringing up r kelly as if this fanbase supports it? did you forget about the TIHTY era and the sudden cancellation of the DWUW video? My point is all artist collaborate with questionable people. But not because they collab means that the artist condones or supports whatever the other has done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 23 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said: Imagine saying this and beliving it OT: Whoops. The TEA.mp3 was good. I can’t wait for her boxscores and first week sales. Karma is trully something else Spellcheck is the REAL TEA sis! How’s your box score looking these days?? 🤭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, darkpaw said: How’s your box score looking these days?? 🤭 Tragic but at least I didn't sell out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, LePetitMonstr said: Tragic but at least I didn't sell out Whatever helps you sleep at night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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