Scarlett Johansson Exits 'Rub & Tug' Following Transgender Casting Backlash

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[Luzaleja 1,980]

7 minutes ago, Bradley said:

Come on, it's just art. It's acting. It's entertainment.

I find nothing offensive about Scarlett playing the role. Like others have said, cis-people have played non-cis roles before, and non-cis people have played cis roles before, I don't get why this is a big deal.

You're an actor, you act, you bring out the life of the character you're portraying, you don't have to be 100% from the same background as the character does.

where?  

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15 minutes ago, Luzaleja said:

That list is made out of mostly cis actors... Laverne Cox is the only transgender actor on the list. How many trans actors have gotten big opportunities? How many of them are playing cis roles? 

As allies of the Transgender community, we need to listen to their voices, instead of saying "but look at the gay community!" Trans actors have spoken about the lack of opportunities they get in Hollywood. Even Laverne Cox, arguably the most famous trans actor today, has spoken out about this. Even when trans actors get cis roles, networks are scared of giving a green light to these projects, as it happened to Laverne. 

If we were in a world were trans actors were not being discriminated against, where they could get into audition rooms no matter the role, then I don't think many people would be upset about this. But since there is discrimination, and in many cases trans actors lack opportunities to even audition, it's understandable why so many of them are speaking out about this. This is not the first time they have called this out. 

I do believe there should be a stronger push so that trans actors were being given the same opportunities cis actors get, but until that happens, it is understandable why trans actors would hope at least trans roles were given to them.

Not to mention many trans people have spoken about the harm it does to their community when cis women are casted as trans men and cis men are casted as trans women, instead of having cis women playing trans women, and cis men playing trans men. 

Sod their acting talents then as long as everyone's put into a little categorized box.

[Bradley 59,150]

1 minute ago, Luzaleja said:

where?  

Matt Bomer has played a lot of straight roles, hasn't he?

Also check out Luke Evans. I'm sure there are more.

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1 minute ago, Luzaleja said:

where?  

Nowhere. I can't believe people are defending this when trans actors, even established ones like Laverne Cox are still saying THEY DO NOT GET ROLES.

In a perfect world yes cis actors could play trans characters, and trans actors could play cis actors. It does NOT happen. 

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Just now, Bradley said:

Matt Bomer has played a lot of straight roles, hasn't he?

Also check out Luke Evans. I'm sure there are more.

Matt Bomer is a cis man. So is Luke Evans. Being gay doesn't make you trans. We are not talking about LGB people. We are talking about trans people.

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1 minute ago, Luzaleja said:

where?  

This question is stupid.

You cannot identify someone who is genderfluid just by looking. Perhaps they aren't public with it. And trans actors on tv who aren't open about it.

Actually, I don't know why a trans person would say they were trans. That defeats the purpose.

 

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3 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

This question is stupid.

You cannot identify someone who is genderfluid just by looking. Perhaps they aren't public with it. And trans actors on tv who aren't open about it.

Actually, I don't know why a trans person would say they were trans. That defeats the purpose.

 

Probably the stupidest answer on this thread. Stay ignorant and don't dare to say you support the LGBT+ community when you obviously only support the LG. 

[Luzaleja 1,980]

9 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

Sod their acting talents then as long as everyone's put into a little categorized box.

yeah, because the reason trans actors can't get into auditions for cis roles is because they can't act. I guess Laverne Cox can't act. Jamie Clayton can't act. Cool.

5 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

This question is stupid.

You cannot identify someone who is genderfluid just by looking. Perhaps they aren't public with it. And trans actors on tv who aren't open about it.

Actually, I don't know why a trans person would say they were trans. That defeats the purpose.

 

They say they are trans because it's part of who they are. Just like genderfluid people come out as such because it's part of who they are. It helps with representation, and it helps to build acceptance for everyone in the community. 

If trans/genderfluid people are getting jobs because they aren't out, but those who are out aren't getting jobs, that means there is discrimination. If you can only get a job because you're not out, it means you are being forced to stay in the closet. 

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12 minutes ago, Luzaleja said:

That list is made out of mostly cis actors... Laverne Cox is the only transgender actor on the list. How many trans actors have gotten big opportunities? How many of them are playing cis roles? 

As allies of the Transgender community, we need to listen to their voices, instead of saying "but look at the gay community!" Trans actors have spoken about the lack of opportunities they get in Hollywood. Even Laverne Cox, arguably the most famous trans actor today, has spoken out about this. Even when trans actors get cis roles, networks are scared of giving a green light to these projects, as it happened to Laverne. 

If we were in a world were trans actors were not being discriminated against, where they could get into audition rooms no matter the role, then I don't think many people would be upset about this. But since there is discrimination, and in many cases trans actors lack opportunities to even audition, it's understandable why so many of them are speaking out about this. This is not the first time they have called this out. 

I do believe there should be a stronger push so that trans actors were being given the same opportunities cis actors get, but until that happens, it is understandable why trans actors would at least hope trans roles were given to them.

Not to mention many trans people have spoken about the harm it does to their community when cis women are casted as trans men and cis men are casted as trans women, instead of having cis women playing trans women, and cis men playing trans men. 

I actually meant to write list of straight people instead of cis people, my apologies.  I was talking about LGBT actors with major roles in the industry as opposed to just trans.

But you're right now that I think about it, it's not exactly the same situation for gay people and trans people to play someone who's straight or to be a part of the industry.

I just feel like that people who aren't trans are attacking her for the sake of attacking her and for all the wrong reasons. Trans people have been fighting for their opportunities for every movie where a cis person was cast instead of them but it's those who aren't trans are singling Scarlet out because "she did the same thing in Ghost in the Shell" like wtf? That's what irks me, tbh.

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1 minute ago, JourneyToAvalon said:

I actually meant to write list of straight people instead of cis people, my apologies.  I was talking about LGBT actors with major roles in the industry as opposed to just trans.

But you're right now that I think about it, it's not exactly the same situation for gay people and trans people to play someone who's straight or to be a part of the industry.

I just feel like that people who aren't trans are attacking her for the sake of attacking her and for all the wrong reasons. Trans people have been fighting for their opportunities for every movie where a cis person was cast instead of them but it's those who aren't trans are singling Scarlet out because "she did the same thing in Ghost in the Shell" like wtf? That's what irks me, tbh.

I agree with you on that. A lot of people like to call out celebrities as sort of a hobby. And I think "cancelling" culture is toxic. But in this specific problem, a lot of trans people have spoken out about this, so I think it's important to take into account what they are saying, and to support them. Of course Scarlett Johansson should be called out, but what really needs to change, and those who need to be called out harder are the networks/movie studios, producers and casting agencies. They are the ones that keep ignoring and discriminating trans actors. Hopefully things change sooner rather than later, but until they do, I understand the discomfort of the trans community with Hollywood.

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What gets me is, she could have just quit the role with no further explanation given. But no, she had to apologise. That's the insulting part. Apologise for being offered a chance to do her job. Apologise for a role she didn't even create. This liberal need to flog oneself publicly for doing nothing wrong is wearing really thin. It doesn't endear people to you. It just makes me want to throw up. Check out this video to give an accurate representation of how I feel:

 

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5 minutes ago, Luzaleja said:

I agree with you on that. A lot of people like to call out celebrities as sort of a hobby. And I think "cancelling" culture is toxic. 

 

5 minutes ago, Luzaleja said:

Of course Scarlett Johansson should be called out, but what really needs to change, and those who need to be called out harder are the networks/movie studios, producers and casting agencies. They are the ones that keep ignoring and discriminating trans actors.

EX 👏 ACT 👏 LY 👏 THIS AND THIS.

By the way, thank you for writing about the trans community's thoughts on the matter and what's actually going on with them in the industry. I didn't have much knowledge about that and missed the point from their perspective COMPLETELY (until you mentioned it.)  

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Am I the only one who didn't have a problem with her being cast in the first place?