The Child 18,997 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, ryanripley said: i'd honestly rather she didn't as a long time fan it feels good not having everyone hate her IKR! It feels so much better having everybody not caring a bit about her! ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Probably not, but who really knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 She better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, CrazyMonster said: IKR! It feels so much better having everybody not caring a bit about her! all my friends like her now and it feels good lol they've been casual fans since AHS and i prefer it to "doesn't she have a d*ck?" and "ew isn't she insane?" all the time lol https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, ryanripley said: all my friends like her now and it feels good lol they've been casual fans since AHS and i prefer it to "doesn't she have a d*ck?" and "ew isn't she insane?" all the time lol Well no one even cares about her nowadays ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, CrazyMonster said: Well no one even cares about her nowadays yeah that's why she had a number 1 album, a sold out tour and one of the most watched SB shows because nobody cares https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latino Baby 133 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 if she wants to flop then yes but right now we are living in an era were people are sick of gimmicks and controversy they just want music they can easily relate to without much thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 8,509 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I actually don’t know if she could do anything that would be deemed controversial nowadays. When she performed at the 2009 VMA’s it was controversial because no one had ever done something like that before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, ryanripley said: yeah that's why she had a number 1 album, a sold out tour and one of the most watched SB shows because nobody cares Yet she had a flop since that peaked in the Top 5. Her flop album debuted at #1 and was the best selling female album of the year. As you mentioned her flop sold out tour, and her flop Netflix documentary. And her latest project a flop trailer that has only been watched 4.7 M times in one video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, ryanripley said: yeah that's why she had a number 1 album, a sold out tour and one of the most watched SB shows because nobody cares But sis the gag is, why was she at the top of the world and selling millions and being all over radio and having multiple #1s when she was "the weirdest and everyone hated her" and now that "she's normal and everyone likes and sees her talent" she is not as successful as she was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: But sis the gag is, why was she at the top of the world and selling millions and being all over radio and having multiple #1s when she was "the weirdest and everyone hated her" and now that "she's normal and everyone likes and sees her talent" she is not as successful as she was? the ARTPOP era says hi constant controversy only gets you so far https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, ryanripley said: the ARTPOP era says hi constant controversy only gets you so far Well, yeah but she had 3 consecutive eras of being weird and successful and was of course destined to underperform at some point like everyone else. But again, after C2C and all the tributes that showed the world her talent, why wasn't Joanne really successful worldwide, why didn't it have at least one real hit (nop, not MR, it was a hit in USA and like Italy, but I'm talking a hit like at least Paparazzi, LoveGame, Judas or Applause)? I guess we can always blame it on the album being too americana Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, MaryJaneHolland said: Well, yeah but she had 3 consecutive eras of being weird and successful and was of course destined to underperform at some point like everyone else. But again, after C2C and all the tributes that showed the world her talent, why wasn't Joanne really successful worldwide, why didn't it have at least one real hit (nop, not MR, it was a hit in USA and like Italy, but I'm talking a hit like at least Paparazzi, LoveGame, Judas or Applause)? I guess we can always blame it on the album being too americana you said it yourself, everyone underperforms at some point she doesn't need to have WW success with every album cycle and it's not like it was a flop so it's not a huge deal besides, controversial pop girls aren't selling right now so it's not worth the risk when we've already had it for 4 albums https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, ryanripley said: you said it yourself, everyone underperforms at some point Exactly and she underperformed with ARTPOP, but we are talking about Joanne. Which wasn't an underperformance, but also wasn't the success it "should" have been considering she's "normal and loved" now. Wasn't that what we were talking about? You are right about the other two parts, however controversial girls don't sell now because they don't exist Gaga was known for her controversies, so maybe she would be able to sell more with them. Everyone got over it with AP, but it's been 5 years since, maybe people miss them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 55 minutes ago, ryanripley said: yeah that's why she had a number 1 album, a sold out tour and one of the most watched SB shows because nobody cares Learn to be sarcastic okay, internet is not for you if you take everything literally. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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