Your opinion on 13 reasons why!

[SwissMonster 27,887]

52 minutes ago, SolidSnake said:

It glorifies and glamorizes suicide. It shouldnt exist as its dangerous to give teens this poor idea of how real mental health is.  

THATS MY POINT! I see so many comments like this but never explanation. Especially WITH season too I don’t think what you said at all. I had thoughts too but seeing 13 RW helped me too see that it’s dumb, so I don’t get it!

[melon 3,298]

14 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I think the fact that there are so many issues in the story is compelling though. From a purely entertainment perspective, it can seem like a lot, and quite frankly it is, but in real life, these issues are working in tandem, so I think it's actually good on their part that their realizing that through the show. 

I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree with the school shooter part. That part of the story wasn't even really realized until the end of the second season. Everything up til that point (from Tyler's perspective) was what led up to him deciding that he wanted to shoot up the school. I think it gives his character a lot of depth and that it humanizes school shooters a little bit more (as awful as that sounds). 

yeah I definitely agree that all these issues can go hand in hand in a broken school environment, but obvs for drama purposes it’s literally the school of Satan and blown up that extra bit

and I think my gripe with Tyler’s character is that I don’t think he’s necessarily been given a good development.  I would 100% rather have an episode or two devoted to his perspective, seeing how loneliness and being on the fringe is so isolating and builds up to breaking point.  Dealing with male on male sexual assault and toxic masculinity in that sense.  

I dunno just felt like it was poorly written for him this season and only added in for that cliffhanger  

[SolidSnake 2,791]

3 minutes ago, SwissMonster said:

THATS MY POINT! I see so many comments like this but never explanation. Especially WITH season too I don’t think what you said at all. I had thoughts too but seeing 13 RW helped me too see that it’s dumb, so I don’t get it!

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-13-reasons-why-hurts-danger-of-glamorizing-teen-suicide-0725174

Here you go. Far too much to type here.

[ProdigyARTPOP 3,889]

I feel like it’s a series that sheds light on the subjects it’s speaking about and does it justly. I also feel like people want there to be a “right” way to talk about these things but there is no right way, and the “right” way the majority of these people refer to is a way in which you basically don’t have to talk about it or don’t want too talk about it. It’s all based on fear and lack of wanting to accept that “hey, this is real, and it happens everyday in America” 

[SwissMonster 27,887]

13 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

To me the show value shock factor than actually spread awareness about the subject matter.

Neither the 2nd nor the upcoming 3rd season is needed. It hurt the good reputation of the book imho.

But that’s the only way society is speaking about something today...sadly

[SwissMonster 27,887]

3 minutes ago, SolidSnake said:

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-13-reasons-why-hurts-danger-of-glamorizing-teen-suicide-0725174

Here you go. Far too much to type here.

Yes but in the end it’s the reality. I had this exact thoughts too! Why showing something wich is not real? Like, idk how to explain myself. I just don’t really think that the the goal of the producers was to glory suicide, more how a person with this thoughts feels...

[SolidSnake 2,791]

1 minute ago, SwissMonster said:

Yes but in the end it’s the reality. I had this exact thoughts too! Why showing something wich is not real? Like, idk how to explain myself. I just don’t really think that the the goal of the producers was to glory suicide, more how a person with this thoughts feels...

Theres better ways to tell the story of feelings leading to suicide without glamorizing it. Take about 2 or 3 hours out of your day and play the video game "Dear Esther" sometime. THAT is how you tell a story about suicide. 

[PerfectIllusion 6,616]

I recently watched season 1 and loved it now im halfway through the second one and its... not as good but im still gonna finish it!

[ferretti 5,808]

I watched season 1 which was exciting because of how it's set up, but not particularly well written nor acted. I did enjoy it though, and was happy to watch it.

I watched two episodes of season 2 which were so poorly written and acted with a story that is just sorta mystery for mystery sake, was too much. So I deserted it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

I know people have issues with its portrayal of suicide. I think season 1 was OK with it, truly, although they could've done a better job consistently reminding the audience it isn't just a fun way to get revenge on people. From what I saw on season 2, they almost seem to just be exploiting it now - probably for the purpose of doing a better job than season 1, but it comes off as too much to me, felt forced and forcing a subject like that is really in poor taste I feel.

[HauntingHollow 4,310]

Telling people that they are the reason you killed yourself is disgusting 

[jereve 1,627]

If you have suffered through and has seek professional help and depression at a young age, it is insulting to romanticize suicide. The show is offensive in terms of making it seem like it's cool when suicide happens. Blaming other people for our own destruction. Watched season 1 and barely finished it because it was just plain and bland. acting is good but intention is insulting.

a mockery to people with mental suffering. a mockery to people like me. 

 

P.s. i suffered through psych ward in high school which is why i feel this way about the show.

[SwissMonster 27,887]

41 minutes ago, HauntingHollow said:

Telling people that they are the reason you killed yourself is disgusting 

And that’s what season is also about. That it’s disgusting to give people the reason! That’s why I don’t understand the hate of this show

[Bio 23,538]

I think the writers and directors think they’re saving the world when in reality they just want to shock people to distract them from the terrible dialogue, unbelievable situations and horrific acting.

[Mirrion Rizzons 9,947]

3 hours ago, HauntingHollow said:

Telling people that they are the reason you killed yourself is disgusting

what do you think about an inspector calls? If you haven't seen/read it its basically a 1940's 13RW that I'm sure 13RW was inspired by

Its basically about a girl called eva smith who killed herself, here are the parallels:
1. Eva smith - Hannah baker

2. Inspector Goole - The Tapes

3. Reasons why, in AIC: Mr and Mrs birling, sheila, eric and gerald contributed to her suicide, like 13RW.

4. Inspector blames them - hannah blames them

The play was a socialist agenda to make people take responsibility for their actions, same as 13RW

In summary, 13RW did have the right intention, but I do understand why it wasn't handled properly but never the less I enjoyed it

But if 13RW gets hate, why doesn't AIC when it's the same story