Your opinion on 13 reasons why!

[SwissMonster 29,118]

I finally wanna understand the hate for the show. Cause I honestly can not see it.

First, I wanna say that season 2 finally helped me to talk about, or maybe more to help me, realise my problems. I will see a professional next week thanks to some GGD memebers AND the show. The show  actually made me sad BUT it actually kept me away from suicide thoughts! I was just thinking „Oh my god, all the people she hurt with her suicide, I can not do that to my family and friends“. 

Also another thing many people complain about is that Bryce only recived 3 months for all the girls he raped and that they show it as if it’s not a problem to rape. I think this wasn’t the producers goal at all, more the opposite! It should show people how in today’s society people get away with rape to easy and that it’s NOT OKAY to give them 3 months (like in this case). 

Ok maybe I can a bit understand why people throw hate on season 1. because nothing was awnsered and it seemed like Hannah did THE RIGHT THING. But with season 2, for me, they showed really good that:

-suicide is never the right choice

-rape has to be punished harder

-you have to talk about suicide openly and prevent/help people with problems

So what is your opinion on the show?

[ryanripley 86,575]

i liked season 1, i'm a sucker for a good teen drama and i literally stan 90210 so when 13RW came around and it turned out to be a pretty severe drama about suicide i was glued to it

i think all the extremists who are bashing it for it's triggering content need to get a grip because this show has so many more warnings than any other violent show i've seen and if you're aware such content is bad for your mental health, i don't know why you'd hit play in the first place. i hate overly gory movies so i take it upon myself to not watch the Saw or Hostel movies since they're too much for me. i have a friend who kept complaining that 13RW was so triggering for them but they stan GoT  

season 2 however was such a disappointment for me  all the extra parts to the original story were cool (seeing other sides to hannah and the people she hung out with etc) but the ghost hannah was just , clay was very  that i just wanted to hit him and the stupid cliffhanger at the end was just  

maybe the show would be better as an anthology instead of milking the same troubled teens

[Mirrion Rizzons 10,705]

I love the show! But season 3 seems pointless

I think it's divided and controversial as it affects everyone in a different way

For some it has a positive impact, others negative

It is very triggering but if someone is vulnerable they shouldn't be watching it anyway

It shed's light on important issues aswell.

People come at me saying it glorifies suicide but she literally slit her wrists and we watched blood ooze out of her and her parents reaction, showing the horror of the incident.

They also say it glorifies rape by showing it. This TRIGGERS me

They show rape in very brutal ways yet people have the audacity to say it's glorifying 

 as it 'desensitizes' us. LIKE bi£ch??

Although I do feel like some aspects could have been handled in a different way, but my mental health is pretty good so either way I wasn't majorly affected. 

In summary, I love the show but you need to be in the right mindset and mental stability to view it

[IAmNotHere1997 25,824]

Haven't watched the second season since I wasn't pretty interested in the first one either, just watched it because everyone was doing so. The book was better. So basically I don't have an opinion.

[SolidSnake 2,804]

It glorifies and glamorizes suicide. It shouldnt exist as its dangerous to give teens this poor idea of how real mental health is.  

[melon 3,580]

I watched both series and liked them but didn’t love them.  

I think the series really has its issues, namely just a drawn out script and some characters just not being done justice with their plot and development.

I think the first series had better pacing, following the structure of the tapes.

I also think the second series dragged a lot, it maybe would have been better to not focus on Clay but to spend one episode from the perspective of each major character.  I also think that the school shooter aspect was completely unnecessary.  I’d rather the 2nd series solely focused on Jessica, her struggle, the fact that the justice system often creates injustices rather than resolving them.

In the end it felt like they bundled in mental health issues without much thought and then added a content warning and guidance  However, I think it’s very good it has sparked debate and helped people to talk about their issues.

Aaaand I also recognise it’s a drama aimed at teens so the actual content isn’t meant to be outstanding, I guess I just feel it should be a higher standard given the fact there are some very good young actors involved.

[Scathach 6,674]

10 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

maybe the show would be better as an anthology instead of milking the same troubled teens

I agree maybe it would have been more interesting as an anthology, in a different school etc. maybe not even school, they could have talked about harassment in workplace etc. 

[Dunk96 2,526]

12 minutes ago, SolidSnake said:

It glorifies and glamorizes suicide. It shouldnt exist as its dangerous to give teens this poor idea of how real mental health is.  

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[ryanripley 86,575]

4 minutes ago, darkness said:

I agree maybe it would have been more interesting as an anthology, in a different school etc. maybe not even school, they could have talked about harassment in workplace etc. 

yes  or maybe make the "hannah" a male to shed some light on issues of men thinking they're weak if they talk about their feelings or whatever

[melon 3,580]

19 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

maybe the show would be better as an anthology instead of milking the same troubled teens

this ^^ it would fix so many issues, a school shooter or delving deeper into issues of toxic masculinity may have been better dealt with if it was a fresh cast.  

Or just rotating the focus of episodes or seasons, I still feel if this season was from Jessica’s point of view it would have probably been stronger.

edit: oh lol everyone has said that just now

[REALITY 75,960]

I quite like the show actually. In terms of pure entertainment value, I did enjoy season one more than I did season two. That said, I did think that season two did a good job in terms of developing a good plot with the whole trial and everything. There were issues I had with it though (Clay seemed overly annoyed and angry all the time, and no shade or anything, but it seems as though Alex Standall's actor forgot how to act, and Hannah's ghost/Clay's conscious wasn't explained well enough, etc.)

To be quite honest, I more so have a problem with how people react to the show:

Firstly, I'm sorry, but people need to stop complaining about it being too graphic. The show explicitly warns you multiple times if the episode is going to contain graphic imagery. If you don't decide to heed that warning, that's your fault. Speaking of graphic scenes, the ending scene with Tyler was graphic, yes, but I felt like that needed to be shown like that. Stuff like that unfortunately happens, and it needs to be shown/discussed. People will argue, "Well you could have showed that without being too graphic;" however, they don't understand that the scene being graphic in the first place is what makes people discuss its severity.

Secondly, I don't see this show as glorifying suicide. As someone who has gone through years of depression, and as someone who as contemplated suicide multiple times, I don't see this as something that "glorifies" it. I see this as a starting point to have a discussion with teenagers about what they're going through and the troubles that they face.

The show actually has this once scene—and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it—where Clay and Mr. Porter have a discussion about suicide. Clay argues that only having discussions about mental issues/suicide in counselors' office isn't have a discussion, but it's merely a telling. I completely agree with that sentiment. There's a difference between telling someone information and having a heartfelt and genuine discussion about the issue. If a show like this isn't going to get people talking, I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to think anything else will. 

[REALITY 75,960]

29 minutes ago, melon said:

I watched both series and liked them but didn’t love them.  

I think the series really has its issues, namely just a drawn out script and some characters just not being done justice with their plot and development.

I think the first series had better pacing, following the structure of the tapes.

I also think the second series dragged a lot, it maybe would have been better to not focus on Clay but to spend one episode from the perspective of each major character.  I also think that the school shooter aspect was completely unnecessary.  I’d rather the 2nd series solely focused on Jessica, her struggle, the fact that the justice system often creates injustices rather than resolving them.

In the end it felt like they bundled in mental health issues without much thought and then added a content warning and guidance  However, I think it’s very good it has sparked debate and helped people to talk about their issues.

Aaaand I also recognise it’s a drama aimed at teens so the actual content isn’t meant to be outstanding, I guess I just feel it should be a higher standard given the fact there are some very good young actors involved.

I think the fact that there are so many issues in the story is compelling though. From a purely entertainment perspective, it can seem like a lot, and quite frankly it is, but in real life, these issues are working in tandem, so I think it's actually good on their part that their realizing that through the show. 

I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree with the school shooter part. That part of the story wasn't even really realized until the end of the second season. Everything up til that point (from Tyler's perspective) was what led up to him deciding that he wanted to shoot up the school. I think it gives his character a lot of depth and that it humanizes school shooters a little bit more (as awful as that sounds). 

[River 114,406]

They need to give us 13 reasons why the did this horrible season

[RAMROD 108,124]

To me the show value shock factor than actually spread awareness about the subject matter.

Neither the 2nd nor the upcoming 3rd season is needed. It hurt the good reputation of the book imho.

[Guest]

Most beautiful and tragic series I’ve ever seen