Charts Discussion - Pre-order 'A Star Is Born' soundtrack!

[Doncho 27,241]

1 hour ago, Kara Brasil said:

Drake is getting Artist of the Year in 5 months

and then Artist of the Decade next year

TayLORD lost

 

Gaga also lost

Spoiler

A long time ago though 

 

[Andrea B 16,750]

I'm not feeling panic at the discos' new album 

[Edible Cloud 11,255]

Apple Music Jumps Over Spotify As The Number One Music Streaming Service In The USA: http://thesource.com/2018/07/07/apple-music-jumps-over-spotify-as-the-number-one-music-streaming-service-in-the-usa/

[OBEY 57,109]

7 minutes ago, Edible Cloud said:

Apple Music Jumps Over Spotify As The Number One Music Streaming Service In The USA: http://thesource.com/2018/07/07/apple-music-jumps-over-spotify-as-the-number-one-music-streaming-service-in-the-usa/

and people said it was a fad some months ago. wig.

[Andrea B 16,750]

spotify premiun> Apple music

 

i don't know why people think that Apple is better, Spotify has better playlists

edit: I forgot about the drake drama spotify can choke, they literally put drake's face on every playlist.

[HitTheBoat 4,077]

1 hour ago, OBEY said:

and people said it was a fad some months ago. wig.

hopefully they will finally disclose their data to the public

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

4 hours ago, Edible Cloud said:

Apple Music Jumps Over Spotify As The Number One Music Streaming Service In The USA: http://thesource.com/2018/07/07/apple-music-jumps-over-spotify-as-the-number-one-music-streaming-service-in-the-usa/

Gaga outstreams Katy in AM 

not a shade directed specifically at Katy btw but more so to point out that Gaga isn't 100% hopeless in the streaming age is my point

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

3 hours ago, HitTheBoat said:

hopefully they will finally disclose their data to the public

A-Yo in top 3 most listened to singles  

i stan 

[asana15 16,648]

9 hours ago, Andree said:

i hope drake flops with his next era, Spotify really destroyed the industry. I have no problem with streaming but Spotify payola is not letting other artists succeed, #1 hits are not organic anymore. the only organic hits I can think of are delicate, million reasons and meant to be 

Good point. You're not the only one fed up and perplexed by the current state of streaming affairs in recording industry.

A few days back The Washington Post published an analysis regarding "Billboard's charts and music success. Are they meaningless in the streaming age?"  (It's a big read, but offers interesting perspective how more and more industry folks trying to look beyond the charts and their meaning):

"....Drake and Kanye West — two reigning kings of pop music — both flooded the American consciousness with music this summer in strikingly different manners. West released a series of seven-track albums, ...Drake, meanwhile, dumped the contents of his hard drive on streaming services as a 25-track behemoth titled “Scorpion.”

Both approaches might seem ostentatious, but they also hinted that pop artists might be using some savvy trickery to manipulate the charts.

Despite lackluster reviews, Kanye’s “Ye” charted at the top of the Billboard 200 albums chart. He also set a record: Every single song debuted in the Top 40 of the Billboard 100. Perhaps that’s because it was only seven tracks, which encouraged listeners to spin (stream) it again and again. Perhaps that was Kanye’s plan.

And, despite its own lackluster reviews, Drake’s “Scorpion” utterly decimated current streaming records. It broke the one-week U.S. streaming record for an album in a mere three days, eclipsing Post Malone’s “beerbongs & bentleys,” which earned the record less than two months prior. Perhaps that was inevitable, given the sheer amount of songs listeners had to work through. Perhaps that was Drake’s plan.

These records aren’t surprising. Instead, they’re a function of the charts desperately trying to figure out how to rank music in the streaming age.

As the charts struggled to come up with a streaming equivalent to an album purchase or a song download, the media has been awash with headlines touting the latest record-breaking chart numbers. Artists such as Adele, Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Drake, Kanye and Post Malone are constantly breaking each others’ records, leaving bands such as Prince, the Rolling Stones and ABBA in digital obscurity.

All these headlines spark a few questions: If records are being broken every time the chart-bearers change the rules, then do they mean anything? Is it fair to compare Beyoncé and the Beatles?

“When the Beatles were around, there were horrible records of who sold what,... Nobody knew how many records were sold in retail, only how many were shipped to the store. So the charts were based on shipments.”

Smelling opportunity, many record companies would simply send out a bunch of records. Even if they ended up getting half of them back, the albums would climb the charts. 

In the old days in the record industry, there were a lot of interesting ways of goosing the charts. 

That might still be the case.

“When streaming started, the idea was people would pick the tracks they wanted to hear, but now they’re being fed songs like a jukebox,” Pietroluongo (Billboard) said, referring to curated playlists and Internet radio stations. And Billboard has to “look at whether these actions should be treated differently.”

Because, much like those record stores, some artists appear to be gaming the system.

“Can you say Kanye is as big an artist, being this successful in streaming, compared to Michael Jackson in the ’80s or the Beatles in the ’60s?” ... “That seems like apples and oranges. … It’s a completely different type of success and consumption.”

Even if you could, would the comparisons matter? Do the charts even matter to most consumers? Maybe — but probably not.

“They matter to record companies in terms of market share and clout,” But “I don’t think consumers really read the charts anymore. I don’t know if serious or even casual music people care that much about any musical statistic ...Plus, charts can be used in any way you want them to be.”

And the charts only focus on a frozen moment in time, not lasting cultural impact.

It does seem that as often as the charts are used to validate someone’s importance, they’re just as often used to show that temporary interest in any kind of art is ephemeral and kind of meaningless.

One could easily point to Prince’s five No. 1 hits as proof of his pop dominance. Simultaneously, one could point to the fact that Led Zeppelin never had a No. 1 hit as proof that singles don’t matter, since they’ve become one of the most pervasive rock bands in American history.

Maybe Kanye was inspired by the biblical number, and maybe Drake was ready to drop a Big Statement double-album. But it’s hard not to wonder what would have happened if Zeppelin had released “Physical Graffiti” in the streaming age.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/07/05/billboards-charts-used-to-be-our-barometer-for-music-success-are-they-meaningless-in-the-streaming-age/?utm_term=.f17ea657b906

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

TEOG is such a staple in CHFI Toronto

http://www.chfi.com/recently-played/

[OBEY 57,109]

8 hours ago, Andree said:

spotify premiun> Apple music

 

i don't know why people think that Apple is better, Spotify has better playlists

edit: I forgot about the drake drama spotify can choke, they literally put drake's face on every playlist.

I rarely listen to playlists and the ones on AM are just fine for me.

[OBEY 57,109]

Ok so I saw Future last night and it was okay. 

Lil Yachty was before him and WHAT THE F WAS THAT  He was soooo annoying, at some point even a part of the crowd boo'ed him as he was distributing water bottles so people throw the bottles in the air while jumping, like bitch......  

[Andreu 37,216]

22 minutes ago, OBEY said:

Ok so I saw Future last night and it was okay. 

Lil Yachty was before him and WHAT THE F WAS THAT  He was soooo annoying, at some point even a part of the crowd boo'ed him as he was distributing water bottles so people throw the bottles in the air while jumping, like bitch......  

he wanted people to stay hydrated huh 

[OBEY 57,109]

9 minutes ago, Andreu said:

he wanted people to stay hydrated huh 

Nope he wanted people to waste the water in the air, a moron.

[Andrea B 16,750]

3 hours ago, OBEY said:

I rarely listen to playlists and the ones on AM are just fine for me.

a lot of people listen to playlists, I like today's top hits cause I always find new songs, the hot 100 playlist, pride playlist, there's literally a playlist for everything, even for when you eat breakfast.

 

remember when Azealia banks was butthurt cause spotify put 212 on a playlist called ''one hit wonders'', she lost her sh*t and asked them to remove her song lmao 

 

 

like sis, you're right but its just a playlist and you're a one-hit wonder in the UK