US Charts Discussion

[Ozzy8923 9]

Of course, another day, another Katy Perry discount. This is becoming some sort of ritual to get all her songs to peak at #1.

[Robotboy 1,700]

lol i thought yesterday that it was her last chance to discount.

oh god i hope its too late and whistle goes number one before xD

Edited August 7, 2012 by Idcydk

[Magoo 6]

This is a simpler formula to calculate the Hot 100 points for a song and once you calculate the points of all the songs in the top 10 you can determine each songs respective positions.

http://atrl.net/foru...ad.php?t=251830

55% for Airplay. 1 million audience impressions = 1 point. (10 million audience impressions = 10 points.)

35% for Digital Sales. 1,000 copies sold = 1 point. (100,000 copies sold = 100 points.)

10% for Streaming. Every 10,000 plays = 1 point. (100,000 plays = 10 points).

(10 x 0.55) + (100 x 0.35) + (10 x 0.10) = 5.5 + 35 + 1 --- Total Points: 41.5.

If only I knew where to get audience impressions, digital sales, and streaming plays. If any of you know where I can obtain audience impressions, digital sales, and streaming plays don't hesitate to PM me! :)

EDIT: I would just like to mention that I believe that airplay percentage rates are FAR too high and airplay by no means should count for more than half of a songs chart performance, if anything it should be the other way around (55% for Digital Sales and 35% for Radio Airplay).

Above formula states

Billboard points =

[sales/K * 35%] + [Airplay/mAI * 55%] + [streaming/K * 1%]

I use

[sales/K * 65%] +[ Airplay/mAI] + [streaming/K * 5%] (but nb Mediabase Airplay * approx 78% = BDS/Nielsen figure that Billboard use)

That's essentially the sames Sales/Airplay ratio but I make it that streaming is about 3 X more important - that's needed to explain why e.g. Bieber's Boyfriend did not get #1.

A lot of people make the error of thinking that the % multipliers in the above equations represents the proportions that the elements contribute to the Hot 100. Just because airplay has the highest multiplier does not mean that it makes overall the highest contribution.

The top 30 or so songs for the week just gone I calculate totalled 2942K sales, 1832m AI airplay and 11760K streams. when you multiply to get points for the Hot 100 (my formula) that becomes 1912 points from sales, 1832 points from airplay, and 588 points from streams which are proportions 44% sales, 42% airplay, 14% streaming.

One thing I've noticed is that in weeks where sales are overall lower, the sales count for more, and in weeks where sales are high they count for less. So in the last couple of weeks where sales are low I've had to increase its multiplier up from 62% to 65% to make the figures match will Hot100 positions correctly. That suggests to me that Billboard do not use fixed multipliers but work it out relative to total contributions from sales/airplay/streaming. I'm feeling the ratio used is 45% sales, 40% airplay and 15% streaming by going back over all the weeks since the new rules came in, and so the multipliers need adjusting weekly to make those ratios.

Edited August 7, 2012 by Magoo

[saltface 178]

They should have discounted Wide Awake last week, might be too late with Whistle looking set to go #1 next week.

[jhonyguy04 3]

...it's 69 cents

THAT fukcING SELLOUT

that cheap lady!! i hate her. here comes another number one.

I banish ye heathen to the black void of the internet's abyss.

lol, i love you!!

[PopRunTheWorld 0]

Above formula states

Billboard points =

[sales/K * 35%] + [Airplay/mAI * 55%] + [streaming/K * 1%]

I use

[sales/K * 65%] +[ Airplay/mAI] + [streaming/K * 5%] (but nb Mediabase Airplay * approx 78% = BDS/Nielsen figure that Billboard use)

I wrote algorithm to find correct formula. I assumed:

Points = A*Sales[K] + B*Airplay[millions] + C*Streaming[K].

and:

A + B + C = 100%

1 - (A + B) = C

0 < A, B, C < 1

I used Billboard data(sales, airplay, streaming) from last 3 charts. Possible options:

I must have more data to find one correct formula.

Edited August 7, 2012 by PopRunTheWorld

[boysboysboys 278]

Ugh, Katy. So predictable.

[boysboysboys 278]

I would love if Interscope discounted CMM right now

Please, that would be HILARIOUS Way to shove that in.

Edited August 7, 2012 by boysboysboys

[hausofmike 127]

Wide Awake discounted

and it fell to #7

She's desperate

[Monster Helper 0]

I hate Katy Perry discounts and anybody knows why people are talking that Judas went platinum?

[Pop Art 1,773]

What kind of f**kery is this.

So, she actually did it. And here I was thinking that she might get a number one the proper way. I shouldn't blame her though, because it very well could be that her label did it without her knowledge or agreement. Either way though, it's a rather unfair way of dealing with the situation.

And honestly, now I take back what I said earlier. If they're gonna go the easy way of getting to the top, than by all means, Whistle, please take over.

Edited August 7, 2012 by The Night

[PopRunTheWorld 0]

Pos, Artist, Title, Tunes Popularity

6 Katy Perry - Wide Awake 0.5667

it's a pity babe

[Jase 13,289]

iTunes update

01. Whistle - Flo Rida

02. Home - Phillip Phillips

03. Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen

04. Some Nights - Fun.

05. As Long As You Love Me (feat. Big Sean) - Justin Bieber

06. Wide Awake - Katy Perry

07. Good Time - Owl City & Carly Rae Jepsen

08. Want U Back - Cher Lloyd

09. Lights - Ellie Goulding

10. Blow Me (One Last Kiss) - P!nk

11. One More Night - Maroon 5

12. Pontoon - Little Big Town

13. Too Close - Alex Clare

14. Titanium (feat. Sia) - David Guetta

15. Payphone (feat. Wiz Khalifa) - Maroon 5

16. Everybody Talks - Neon Trees

17. Blown Away - Carrie Underwood

18. I Won't Give Up - Jason Mraz

19. Wanted - Hunter Hayes

20. Somebody That I Used to Know (feat. Kimbra) - Gotye

21. Take a Little Ride - Jason Aldean

22. Give Your Heart a Break - Demi Lovato

23. Pound the Alarm - Nicki Minaj

24. Mercy (feat. Big Sean, Pusha T & 2 Chainz) - Kanye West

25. Scream - Usher

26. Let's Go (feat. Ne-Yo) [Radio Edit] - Calvin Harris

27. Ho Hey - The Lumineers

28. 50 Ways to Say Goodbye - Train

29. Come Over - Kenny Chesney

30. Where Have You Been - Rihanna

31. Dark Side - Kelly Clarkson

32. What Makes You Beautiful - One Direction

33. No Lie (feat. Drake) - 2 Chainz

34. Little Talks - Of Monsters and Men

35. Chasing the Sun - The Wanted

36. She's So Mean - Matchbox Twenty

37. Hard to Love - Lee Brice

38. We Are Young (feat. Janelle Monáe) - Fun.

39. Drunk On You - Luke Bryan

40. We Run the Night (feat. Pitbull) - Havana Brown

Bubbling Under

58. Don't Wake Me Up - Chris Brown

59. Triumphant (Get 'Em) [feat. Rick Ross & Meek Mill] - Mariah Carey

69. Both of Us (feat. Taylor Swift) - B.o.B

75. Settle Down - No Doubt

78. Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself) - Ne-Yo

82. Lemme See (feat. Rick Ross) - Usher

[jhonyguy04 3]

Wide Awake discounted

and it fell to #7

She's desperate

oh don't count her out yet. she still has to do the remix with a rapper.

[Valentino 4]

WA jumped from #8 - #7

Expect to see Katy at #1 when you wake up in the morning

I want my money back.

6. Wide Awake - Misses Marchioness Priestess Madam Mistress Viscountess Dame Countess Empress Goddess Duchess Queen Lady Katheryn von Perry de la Hudson

August 7, 2012 11:47 AM

Wide Awake by Misses Marchioness Priestess Madam Mistress Viscountess Dame Countess Empress Goddess Duchess Queen Lady Katheryn von Perry de la Hudson from the album Teenage Dream - The Complete Confection