FGGrayson 9,670 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, DoremonLove said: So u agree that visuals are good? But u r also saying she lost her creativity coz her team isn't there anymore. So what is the truth. What are u actually trying to say?. that she became the typical puppet pop star that make cute safe boring things to be loved and look cute ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ด๐ฎ โข ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ๐ ๐ ๐ผ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ โข ๐ฆ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ถ๐ฒ-๐๐น๐น๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ โข ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐๐ผ๐ป Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, ryanripley said: ???? i don't see how that stops the visuals from being amazing? ย the tour was sold out so a lot of the GP saw it the visuals weren't her best but they were great, i'm not saying the pink hat is an amazing concept but the era has been creative as a whole lol stop being so pressedt that ARTPOP is over, ARTPOP had some cheap visuals and messy moments and wasn't her best work she doesn't have to push the boundaries with every era, otherwise that would get boring and it lowkey was Dada, Boomkack and Nicola and the rest of her creative team wasnt in the ARTPOP era tho lmao, did i ever mentioned ARTPOP? No, overal she did lost it with Joanne, aint my fault tbh ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ด๐ฎ โข ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ๐ ๐ ๐ผ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ โข ๐ฆ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ถ๐ฒ-๐๐น๐น๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ โข ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐๐ผ๐ป Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoremonLove 8,147 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, FrankGutz said: that she became the typical puppet pop star that make cute safe boring things to be loved and look cute If u think that gaga is like any other popstar then i think u are wasting ur time on her maybe move on and look for someone u think is creative dont take me the wrong wayย How can anoyone not love gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Yes artists have to evolve. But for better, not worse. n ๐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,290 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, ryanripley said: but when i saw the tour and coachella and PI/JW video, creative spark did come to my mind ย like i said, you're just taking a few guitar performances are joanne as a whole when she's been creative this era But those the tour and coachella interludes were literally flashed on screen for like 3 seconds thoughย ย If those visuals had been the dominant motifs of the era, I wouldn't be saying this. I'm taking the few guitar performancesย as representative of the entire era because she that's how she chose to present the era to the general public. She performed Million Reasons at literally every turn. Even atย the Superbowl, the Joanne era was presented via Million Reasons. If she had instead sung John Wayne while her face was wrapped in bandages and dripping with ink, then I wouldn't have an argument. Literally the whole point of this era was to show the general public not that she was able to be innovative and push boundaries, but that she was capable of being a regular girl. Which is why I'm saying that this era did not have the creative spark that her previous eras did, and that's fine, because she wanted it toย be that wayย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoremonLove 8,147 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Phoenix said: Yes artists have to evolve. But for better, not worse. n And im glad she evolved for betterย How can anoyone not love gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, DoremonLove said: And im glad she evolved for betterย u in danger sis, run ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ด๐ฎ โข ๐ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ๐ ๐ ๐ผ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ โข ๐ฆ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ต๐ถ๐ฒ-๐๐น๐น๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ผ๐ฟ โข ๐ฃ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐๐ผ๐ป Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos 3,199 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Without her original team, she was never the same again. 2 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: But those were literally flashed on screen for like 3 seconds thoughย ย If those visuals had been the dominant motifs of the era, I wouldn't be saying this. I'm taking the few guitar performancesย as representative of the entire era because she that's how she chose to present the era to the general public. She performed Million Reasons at literally every turn. Even atย the Superbowl, the Joanne era was presented via Million Reasons. If she had instead sung John Wayne while her face was wrapped in bandages and dripping with ink, then I wouldn't have an argument. Literally the whole point of this era was to show the general public not that she was able to be innovative and push boundaries, but that she was capable of being a regular girl. Which is why I'm saying that this era did not have the creative spark that her previous eras did, and that's fine, because wanted it toย be that wayย I mean ย ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: But those the tour and coachella interludes were literally flashed on screen for like 3 seconds thoughย ย If those visuals had been the dominant motifs of the era, I wouldn't be saying this. I'm taking the few guitar performancesย as representative of the entire era because she that's how she chose to present the era to the general public. She performed Million Reasons at literally every turn. Even atย the Superbowl, the Joanne era was presented via Million Reasons. If she had instead sung John Wayne while her face was wrapped in bandages and dripping with ink, then I wouldn't have an argument. Literally the whole point of this era was to show the general public not that she was able to be innovative and push boundaries, but that she was capable of being a regular girl. Which is why I'm saying that this era did not have the creative spark that her previous eras did, and that's fine, because she wanted it toย be that wayย but they didn't flash on the screen for 3 seconds???ย ย literally a minute and 20 seconds ย ย https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoremonLove 8,147 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, FrankGutz said: did she? Yes very muchย How can anoyone not love gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,290 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, ryanripley said: but they didn't flash on the screen for 3 seconds???ย ย literally a minute and 20 seconds ย Still less time than it takes to make a pizza pocketย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, FrankGutz said: Dada, Boomkack and Nicola and the rest of her creative team wasnt in the ARTPOP era tho lmao, did i ever mentioned ARTPOP? No, overal she did lost it with Joanne, aint my fault tbh no but you're always on this forum acting like ARTPOP is underrated and her team left her, she didn't lose them, they're better left gone https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 75,854 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I feel like some of you guys are missing the point of the original post and a lot of what other people are trying to say. Her "creativity" is not just limited by how many crazy and eclectic costumes she wears, or how much makeup she puts on, but it's much more than that. Joanneย is anย inherentlyย non-creative era; it just is.ย Joanneย wasn't meant to be this avant-garde, posh, over-the-top era because if it was, she would have relayed that message to us.ย Joanne,ย as an album, was about Stefani, not Gaga. It was about her family, things that truly matter to her, and it was an album that was supposed to represent "Lady Gaga without the fame"โsomething she put on her Twitter bio during the beginning of the era.ย Gaga has not lost her creativity because of more tame visuals. She wasย purposefully doing that in order to put the music in the forefront.ย She even said in theย Five Foot Twoย documentary that she realized that she didn't need all the wigs and makeup in order to convey a powerful and meaningful message. The visuals are always used throughout the era to highlight the music, and that's what she did. She had a more "stripped down" album and to correlate itย with more "stripped down visuals". That goes for the music videos as well.ย She's shown she can be creative through the Super Bowl, the John Wayne music video, JWT interludes, Coachella, etc. She hasn't lost it. This was doneย purposefully and is in no way an example of her "losing her creativity."ย ๐ฆ ๐งโโ๏ธ๐ฅ๐ธ๐๐ป๐บ๐ง๐๐โ๏ธ๐ช๐ค๐บ๐ฑ๐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Still less time than it takes to make a pizza pocketย so? ย https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoremonLove 8,147 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, FrankGutz said: u in danger sis, run Oh u edited ur commentย maybe time for u to run to some other so called sparky and creative pop star How can anoyone not love gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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