Beyonce is famous because light skin

[ANVEEROY 61,224]

4 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Colourism >>> racism.

Because even white people have prejudice against very pale or pasty skin.

Similarly brown skin people have prejudice against very dark skin.

 

I'm a brown guy, and you are absolutely right. In our society, you have to marry a 'fair toned' girl, because they consider as beautiful to people.  

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

4 minutes ago, Anveeroy said:

I'm a brown guy, and you are absolutely right. In our society, you have to marry a 'fair toned' girl, because they consider as beautiful to people.  

Unfortunately I am right. Yes, I do think Hollywood also is partly to blame. It’s been whitewashed for almost it’s entire history. And it’s sent to the living rooms of almost the whole world.

White = right seems to be the message in Hollywood.

[KingRedd 3,139]

That could be a factor now, but Tina Turner, Gladys Knight, Whitney Houston, Lauren Hill, Missy Elliot, Brandy, Janet Jackson, and many others dominated the charts at one point with their melanin popping. So it wasn’t always a thing. People like Beyoncé because they genuinely find her voice and ability amazing. Rihanna blew up all the way when she had the Chris struggle. Nicki was the only female rapper doing anything for like 6 years haha. 

[DrKindnessKunt1999 6,100]

44 minutes ago, lego said:

He does have a point, but don’t forget these women  

 

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I wouldn't really consider Whitney and Brandi dark skinned though. Both of them look biracial (not that there's anything wrong with that). But it does prove that it's RARE to see a successful dark skinned woman dominating since society deems dark skinned women as "ugly", someone like a Grace Jones for example. 

[Alligator Blood 1,444]

somebody bout to cum though and murder all those stereotypes and prejudices 

 

[SychosSoChic 9,995]

Colorism.

We see it in Africa, we see it in the Philippines, we even see it in India. It's introduction was meant to divide the natives, and I wish I could say it failed

I actually remember being super shook the first time someone referred to me as "Yellowbone" As a biracial, I just never thought my skintone was something people would consider a factor when they looked at me.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

12 minutes ago, MannyMonroe18 said:

I wouldn't really consider Whitney and Brandi dark skinned though. Both of them look biracial (not that there's anything wrong with that). But it does prove that it's RARE to see a successful dark skinned woman dominating since society deems dark skinned women as "ugly", someone like a Grace Jones for example. 

Apparently back in the 80s African Americans in the fashion and media world gave supermodel Iman (David Bowie’s wife) a hard time because she was from East Africa, and didn’t deserve to be a supermodel because she was from an impoverished country AND had dark skin (compared to Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams etc). 

I think Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg may be the only dark-skinned African American female stars who excelled in their fields, but it was for journalism and comedy, where looks don’t play as big a part as music, film and fashion which is all about sexuality.

[DrKindnessKunt1999 6,100]

7 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Apparently back in the 80s African Americans in the fashion and media world gave supermodel Iman (David Bowie’s wife) a hard time because she was from East Africa, and didn’t deserve to be a supermodel because she was from an impoverished country AND had dark skin (compared to Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams etc). 

I think Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg may be the only dark-skinned African American female stars who excelled in their fields, but it was for journalism and comedy, where looks don’t play as big a part as music, film and fashion which is all about sexuality.

Sadly, Iman changed herself to fit in:

No disrespect to Iman, but now she looks like Vanessa William's older sister nowadays. Even though I would never know how it feels to discriminated against for having darker skin, I don't blame her. I'm not saying that I agree with decisions either. 

 

The self hate in the African American community is still prominent nowadays. I can't even remember the amounts of times I've heard "KIDS DON'T PLAY OUTSIDE OR YOU'LL GET DARKER" or "I wished that I was able to 'scrub the dirt away"' (meaning scrub the blackness away). Or other things I don't even want to type here. 

[Mr S 8,672]

You do need light skin to make it big. Whitney Houston might be an exception but even she wore plenty of makeup and lighting. She also had a naturally beautiful face. Brandy made it big when r&b was popular. She was more flash in the pan. She also had the tv show that gave her a starting base. She also was not THAT big. Lauryn Hill is a one album wonder.

He's right about Beyonce, if she were dark she'd be a Sza level artist.

[NCgaga 4,324]

Beyonce and Nicki are both three shades paler than they were when they started out. Mariah Carey is 1/4 black, so how could we consider her a "black female? 

 

Black people are hard on their own that are "too dark".

White people typically view really pale skin as unhealthy looking and prefer to get tans. You'll see famous white people get tans or even spray tans in appearances on tv or magazines. Ariana grande is about 20 shades darker than she was when she first came out. There is a reason Multi-ethnic or racialy ambiguous stars are famous(Ariana, Xtina, Demi,Mariah, Alicia Keys, Rihanna)- They appeal to a broader audience. 

There was a period when Xtina wanted to capitolize on her father's Ecuadorian Roots-so she did makeup that exaggerated her lips and narrowed her eyes,  and overtanned, died her naturally dirty blonde hair black. Yes Beyonce tries to look lighter, but many stars try to look darker too. 

[NCgaga 4,324]

If Beyonce was the color of Jennifer Hudson, her career would have ended in 2005. Her voice cannot carry her career by itself. It’s just not on that level. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

34 minutes ago, MannyMonroe18 said:

Sadly, Iman changed herself to fit in:

No disrespect to Iman, but now she looks like Vanessa William's older sister nowadays. Even though I would never know how it feels to discriminated against for having darker skin, I don't blame her. I'm not saying that I agree with decisions either. 

 

The self hate in the African American community is still prominent nowadays. I can't even remember the amounts of times I've heard "KIDS DON'T PLAY OUTSIDE OR YOU'LL GET DARKER" or "I wished that I was able to 'scrub the dirt away"' (meaning scrub the blackness away). Or other things I don't even want to type here. 

I’m sorry you grew up hearing such damaging words. Kids can learn quickly from insecure adults how to be cruel. 

Sadly kids inherit a lot of anxiety from their parents (who got it from their parents) and who will probably then pass it onto their kids.

I think this is similar to what Gaga mentioned when she spoke of intergenerational pain when discussing Joanne and the impact she had on her family.

And I guess it’s no surprise Iman now looks the way she looks today. The fashion world today is inherently elitist and all about confirmity. There are no more rebels in fashion.

 

[DrKindnessKunt1999 6,100]

8 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

I’m sorry you grew up hearing such damaging words. Kids can learn quickly from insecure adults how to be cruel. 

Sadly kids inherit a lot of anxiety from their parents (who got it from their parents) and who will probably then pass it onto their kids.

I think this is similar to what Gaga mentioned when she spoke of intergenerational pain when discussing Joanne and the impact she had on her family.

And I guess it’s no surprise Iman now looks the way she looks today. The fashion world today is inherently elitist and all about confirmity. There are no more rebels in fashion.

 

I mean there is A LITTLE hope (even though it's a tiny bit) because there is a movement of people saying that dark skin and natural hair is beautiful too, but there's still A LOT that has to be done to stop/reverse the hate for dark skin. Not only in the black community but in the Asian/Hispanic/Latinx community, too. 

 

And we need to teach children that they're beautiful, too. 

[River 117,058]

What about Eve, Missy, Toni, Kelly Rowland and many more?

Most of the 90s legend songs are from black singers..

idk, I don't like to talk about skin colors, I find it an accepted racism, it's just a skin, just a color..

 

But he has a point but not in the US, but in Europe.

Beyonce is almost gone from the radio there.. but her song with Coldplay, a band of a white man, was one of the most successful that year.. so you clearly see that racism still exist in the "liberal" Europe..

[Borislshere 53,080]

22 minutes ago, River said:

idk, I don't like to talk about skin colors, I find it an accepted racism, it's just a skin, just a color..

 

It’s important to talk about these things though. Many people go through this within their own community and from outsiders. Ignoring this issue because it makes a few “uncomfortable” isn’t going to make the issue go away. In a perfect world we’d all be seen as human and equals despite skin color but that’s just not how it is.