The Cloverfield Paradox - OUT NOW!!

[Eros92 2,513]

49 minutes ago, Doot said:

W H A T  

Hold on, lemme break this down easier haha

Spoiler

 

There are 3 movies to there are 3 different universes. 

In the universe of "The Cloverfield Paradox" the first two movies didn't happen. There wasn't a giant monster that attacked NY and Aliens didn't invade the Earth. The scientist in the movie in the beginning of this movie who's on the news states his theory on the Cloverfield Paradox. Saying that by using the Shepard it would cause rips in Space-Time and tear holes into the fabric of the universe eventually bringing all kinds of creatures and strange things from other dimensions and universes into other dimensions (he even hints to giant sea monsters). So once they active the Shepard and disappear from their dimension they ripped open tears in the universe allowing for creatures to pass from one dimension to another.  So the moment that happened is when the aliens invaded the earth in the "10 Cloverfield Lane" universe.

Now this is where I get a little confused as to how Clover got into the "Cloverfield" universe of the first movie. As stated by JJ he said that Clover is of EARTH origin and has been asleep for millions of years only to be awaken from a falling satellite. So the Cloverfield Paradox didn't bring Clover to NY but, it could have transported it and its kind to the universe of "The Cloverfield Paradox". But they also said the tears could effect time as well. So it's plausible that the creature was from some different Earth or planet all together and was transported to the Earth of the "Cloverfield" universe of the past and stayed dormant under the sea till it awoke. 

All these things happen in different universes, not necessarily in any kind of linear order. This anomaly is occurring throughout ALL spacetime, so the point it pops up in any given dimension, and what form it takes, could be anything.

This is actually brilliant, because it gives leave to explore different themes and subjects - a home movie turned documentary in the face of sudden disaster, a psychological thriller where John Goodman steals the show, a sci-fi misadventure with terrible consequences - all set within the same loose "universe," tied together by a few commonalities, like Tagruato.

 

 

[Magneto 13,431]

This was really bad, guys. I can see why they didn't show this in cinemas 

[Quasi 10,923]

22 minutes ago, Magneto said:

This was really bad, guys. I can see why they didn't show this in cinemas 

I was anticipating this release so much. I always thought with the first two installments that anything with the name Cloverfield would be top notch sci fi. I'm very disappointed to say the least. 

[Doot 2]

12 hours ago, Eros92 said:

Hold on, lemme break this down easier haha

  Reveal hidden contents

 

There are 3 movies to there are 3 different universes. 

In the universe of "The Cloverfield Paradox" the first two movies didn't happen. There wasn't a giant monster that attacked NY and Aliens didn't invade the Earth. The scientist in the movie in the beginning of this movie who's on the news states his theory on the Cloverfield Paradox. Saying that by using the Shepard it would cause rips in Space-Time and tear holes into the fabric of the universe eventually bringing all kinds of creatures and strange things from other dimensions and universes into other dimensions (he even hints to giant sea monsters). So once they active the Shepard and disappear from their dimension they ripped open tears in the universe allowing for creatures to pass from one dimension to another.  So the moment that happened is when the aliens invaded the earth in the "10 Cloverfield Lane" universe.

Now this is where I get a little confused as to how Clover got into the "Cloverfield" universe of the first movie. As stated by JJ he said that Clover is of EARTH origin and has been asleep for millions of years only to be awaken from a falling satellite. So the Cloverfield Paradox didn't bring Clover to NY but, it could have transported it and its kind to the universe of "The Cloverfield Paradox". But they also said the tears could effect time as well. So it's plausible that the creature was from some different Earth or planet all together and was transported to the Earth of the "Cloverfield" universe of the past and stayed dormant under the sea till it awoke. 

All these things happen in different universes, not necessarily in any kind of linear order. This anomaly is occurring throughout ALL spacetime, so the point it pops up in any given dimension, and what form it takes, could be anything.

This is actually brilliant, because it gives leave to explore different themes and subjects - a home movie turned documentary in the face of sudden disaster, a psychological thriller where John Goodman steals the show, a sci-fi misadventure with terrible consequences - all set within the same loose "universe," tied together by a few commonalities, like Tagruato.

 

 

I mean. This makes sense.

I get it.

I think multiverses are cool and all.

 

 

But let's be realistic, and say that the idea of a prehistoric monster living in the depths of the sea is way cooler than this explanation in this film lol

[ryanripley 86,575]

mess, i liked this movie, it was Half Life meets Prometheus

it wasn't amazing but we finally got an explanation to the monster

edit: i saw the comment above and i'm shook, they're really over complicating this when i just saw this movie as a prequel to Cloverfield

[ryanripley 86,575]

3 hours ago, Doot said:

I mean. This makes sense.

I get it.

I think multiverses are cool and all.

 

 

But let's be realistic, and say that the idea of a prehistoric monster living in the depths of the sea is way cooler than this explanation in this film lol

when they started explaining stuff, all i could think of was:

Spoiler

 

[JGD 12,020]

15 minutes in and I’m already tuning out  

[JGD 12,020]

1 minute ago, JGD said:

15 minutes in and I’m already tuning out  

Jk I’m hooked again  

[Doot 2]

9 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

when they started explaining stuff, all i could think of was:

  Hide contents

 

Lol yes. 

The explanation is fine, I suppose. I just feel like it made the concept of the monster in the first movie less cool. Monsters are scary, sure, but it’s like the difference between Godzilla and Pacific Rim lol

one is cool. the other is not. 

[Doot 2]

16 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

edit: i saw the comment above and i'm shook, they're really over complicating this when i just saw this movie as a prequel to Cloverfield

Cloverfield clearly wasn’t suffering from an energy crisis, nor on the brink of world war though. 

The multiple universes theory seems to be the general consensus on the web as of this morning. 

[ryanripley 86,575]

Just now, Doot said:

Cloverfield clearly wasn’t suffering from an energy crisis, nor on the brink of world war though. 

The multiple universes theory seems to be the general consensus on the web as of this morning. 

i'm just worried they'll do an Alien

set up a lot of mystery but reveal that the reason behind the iconic horror was an annoying pretentious lump of metal 

[StarlightSeiya 1,242]

I thought it was interesting. I kinda over hyped it. Was expecting a lot more. I agree with the 3 universes theory but I'm still reading more. It's definitely the weakest of the 3. I really liked the quick fanservice part at the very end. 

[Eros92 2,513]

5 hours ago, Doot said:

I mean. This makes sense.

I get it.

I think multiverses are cool and all.

 

 

But let's be realistic, and say that the idea of a prehistoric monster living in the depths of the sea is way cooler than this explanation in this film lol

I think that pretty much still stands true. Again the monster in the original Cloverfield was stated to be in the ocean for millions of years according to JJ. I think the that monster or kinds like it were brought INTO the CP universe from the Cloverfield 1 universe. 

[Doot 2]

2 hours ago, ryanripley said:

i'm just worried they'll do an Alien

set up a lot of mystery but reveal that the reason behind the iconic horror was an annoying pretentious lump of metal 

When it comes to the Alien lore, the issue wasn't "who made the alien"...and why?....because that shouldn't have been a question. I think the general audience assumed it was a damn alien that probably came from some planet that has...aliens. The idea that someone created it was the lame part.

I am assuming you are referring to the energy thing they were using? I mean, as it stands right now, I totally understand the concept behind everything, but I can't say that it is...cool.

It might be cool for something other than Cloverfield. I personally think the idea that there was simply a monster under the ocean for millions of years to be far more impactful and engaging than this new twist. I get their logic behind it all is to give you some answers and then leave you with more questions, but there is only so long that is going to be effective before audiences start getting annoyed.

10 minutes ago, Eros92 said:

I think that pretty much still stands true. Again the monster in the original Cloverfield was stated to be in the ocean for millions of years according to JJ. I think the that monster or kinds like it were brought INTO the CP universe from the Cloverfield 1 universe. 

I guess that is where we will be able to explore the timeline part of it with the upcoming fourth film, which takes place during WWII.

Honestly, I figured that there was going to be some odd twist at some point anyway, considering they wrote aliens into the end of 10 Cloverfield Lane. I went into that movie thinking Clovie was the reason they were in the bunker...as soon as I saw it was aliens, I knew that there was some weird ass idea behind it all.

 

[Eros92 2,513]

43 minutes ago, Doot said:

When it comes to the Alien lore, the issue wasn't "who made the alien"...and why?....because that shouldn't have been a question. I think the general audience assumed it was a damn alien that probably came from some planet that has...aliens. The idea that someone created it was the lame part.

I am assuming you are referring to the energy thing they were using? I mean, as it stands right now, I totally understand the concept behind everything, but I can't say that it is...cool.

It might be cool for something other than Cloverfield. I personally think the idea that there was simply a monster under the ocean for millions of years to be far more impactful and engaging than this new twist. I get their logic behind it all is to give you some answers and then leave you with more questions, but there is only so long that is going to be effective before audiences start getting annoyed.

I guess that is where we will be able to explore the timeline part of it with the upcoming fourth film, which takes place during WWII.

Honestly, I figured that there was going to be some odd twist at some point anyway, considering they wrote aliens into the end of 10 Cloverfield Lane. I went into that movie thinking Clovie was the reason they were in the bunker...as soon as I saw it was aliens, I knew that there was some weird ass idea behind it all.

 

This movie explains more about the aliens in 10CL then it does about Clovie. Thats why they should have marketed as a sequel to 10CL and not try to say how it explains the first movie cause it dosent