Edonis 28,950 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, PussyGlam said: To call it a meltdown implies that she's done something wrong. She's clearly defending herself from being publically attacked and humiliated. The trans person needs to not push her agenda on other people. Rose is fighting for female equality. Be one of us or sit the **** back down like she said. In my honest opinion, that's not how you handle a heckler in a healthy way, particularly when she has a history of mental health problems in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ryusei said: enlighten us?/me? well maybe homophobia isn't the right word. maybe discriminates? she called out the whole gay community saying were more misogynistic than straight men you can read it here. And made an argument that gay men self-victimized and are narcissistic with their rights movements and don't do anything for women. That's a very big generalization from her... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rose-mcgowan-attacks-lgbt-community-for-failing-to-campaign-for-feminism-gay-men-are-more-9841873.html and when she wrote an open letter to caitlin jenner about being a woman, it came across to me and others that she has an issue with "male privileged" men becoming women and not knowing what it fully means to be a woman. Which is kinda disrespectful to the whole idea of transpeople who feel like the opposite sex in the wrong body. https://www.thecut.com/2015/11/rose-mcgowans-transphobic-caitlyn-jenner-rant.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathach 6,674 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Rose needs to seek professional help ASAP but the other person kinda attacked her... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, darkness said: Rose needs to seek professional help ASAP but the other person kinda attacked her... The other person was out of line for sure, and probably needs professional help as well. Anytime someone yells like that in a less than hostile environment, that doesn’t seem to come off very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, neptugne said: Is that not Rose pushing her agenda? Why is it different for the trans person? She should pick her own place and time. Don't hijack somebody else's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 19,053 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 my childhood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The headline is a bit one sided, she was defending herself and it’s not easy to react appropriately after all the **** she’s been through. Also I’m not a fan of “she needs professional help” comments, she’s not crazy, this is what her abusers did to her and what they do to all women who speak up, they want everyone to think they’re unhinged and not trustworthy. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 40,916 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The whole thing was a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathach 6,674 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, lego said: The headline is a bit one sided, she was defending herself and it’s not easy to react appropriately after all the **** she’s been through. Also I’m not a fan of “she needs professional help” comments, she’s not crazy, this is what her abusers did to her and what they do to all women who speak up, they want everyone to think they’re unhinged and not trustworthy. I'm sorry but I'm under the impression that she is clearly having some sort of mental breakdown and she obviously suffers from PTSD. I'm saying she needs help because I don't want her to kill herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, darkness said: I'm sorry but I'm under the impression that she is clearly having some sort of mental breakdown and she obviously suffers from PTSD. I'm saying she needs help because I don't want her to kill herself. I don’t think she would do that, she’s been fighting this battle for so many years, it’s just now she’s more in the spotlight because of the #metoo movement. If you listen to her on The View, she’s making a lot of sense. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, darkness said: I'm sorry but I'm under the impression that she is clearly having some sort of mental breakdown and she obviously suffers from PTSD. I'm saying she needs help because I don't want her to kill herself. This @lego. You obviously know I’m not trying to use that to mock her right? She’s been a victim of abuse, and statistically speaking, they are at a higher risk for those kinds of things. Talking about it, or opting out of professional intervention, is not going to help her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELEMENTALITY 1,298 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, DiscoHeaven23 said: well maybe homophobia isn't the right word. maybe discriminates? she called out the whole gay community saying were more misogynistic than straight men you can read it here. And made an argument that gay men self-victimized and are narcissistic with their rights movements and don't do anything for women. That's a very big generalization from her... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rose-mcgowan-attacks-lgbt-community-for-failing-to-campaign-for-feminism-gay-men-are-more-9841873.html and when she wrote an open letter to caitlin jenner about being a woman, it came across to me and others that she has an issue with "male privileged" men becoming women and not knowing what it fully means to be a woman. Which is kinda disrespectful to the whole idea of transpeople who feel like the opposite sex in the wrong body. https://www.thecut.com/2015/11/rose-mcgowans-transphobic-caitlyn-jenner-rant.html hmmmm...i kind of agree. there are alot of gay guys that are sexist. They want to borrow from female identity for entertainment purposes, play primarily female musicians/singers in the gay bars, and watch women bicker on the Real Housewives.... but then they'll complain about straight women coming into their bars for a bachelorette party. It's like....alot of gay bars want to completely use things alot of strong women have made or created originally but the idea of having actual women (especially straight) in the gay bar "annoys them". That's the same as someone from the white suburbs doing a fake urban accent to fit in but not caring about the actual communities of people of color at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: This @lego. You obviously know I’m not trying to use that to mock her right? She’s been a victim of abuse, and statistically speaking, they are at a higher risk for those kinds of things. Talking about it, or opting out of professional intervention, is not going to help her. I don’t think you’re mocking her. I just don’t like to see so many comments like that, because to the outsiders it means, the things she says are all BS and you can’t really trust her, which is what abusive men in power want. Besides, we don’t know if she’s already getting help. This wasn’t exactly case of a meltdown, I think, she’s only human. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Your at a book signing, the book is about the author's history of being sexually abused, and about her attempts to end a system which enables abusers, so naturally you heckle her for not doing enough to end sexual abuse? Rose's response was dramatic, but reasonable. Fight your enemies, not your imperfect allies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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