FentyGa 14,340 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 So I just found a demo of Donatella on YouTube called 'Karma, Bitch!' by Zedd and Anjulie. According to Anjulie herself, she and Zedd worked on the track in 2011, but it didn't end up on her record, so they ended up giving it to Gaga. It's kinda ****, but the 'Oooooh' bit is kinda catchy tbh. I also found a demo of Mary Jane Holland called 'Can't Beat The Machines' by The Good Natured. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCpro 14,846 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Quite a few songs on ARTPOP were already existing instrumentals, Aura too. I remember when I first found out it felt like my whole life was a lie 08, 09, 11, 13, 16, 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Cute, but old news. Venus also contains elements from Rocket Number 9 by Zombie Zombie and Sun-Ra as well. Lots of songs on ARTPOP sample or use previously developed instrumentals. And, to be honest, I don’t think it really takes away from the album or its merits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionLover 6,617 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 It's Karma BÏtch 13 | this is my dancefloor i fought for, your voice is louder, it echoes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,805 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Oh wow I think Gaga is better at making songs that flow with the instrumental, that or I’m a little bit biased Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, iCpro said: Quite a few songs on ARTPOP were already existing instrumentals, Aura too. I remember when I first found out it felt like my whole life was a lie Yeah, I read on Wikipedia that she sampled Aura from a middle eastern duo (?) and the song was already called Burqa. They allowed her to use it but they wanted to use an alias. She basically refused that and credited them under their name anyway. And yeah, it was like looking behind the curtain a little bit, but not to the interesting parts of how Gaga made the songs, but to the dark parts. Might just be me, though. 7 minutes ago, Edonis said: Cute, but old news. Venus also contains elements from Rocket Number 9 by Zombie Zombie and Sun-Ra as well. Lots of songs on ARTPOP sample or use previously developed instrumentals. And, to be honest, I don’t think it really takes away from the album or its merits I don't think it takes away from the record's beauty, but it just kinda makes me think 'oh well gaga wasn't as involved in the production process that kinda sucks' but it's no big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHALLOW 16,224 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, maxblac said: Yeah, I read on Wikipedia that she sampled Aura from a middle eastern duo (?) and the song was already called Burqa. They allowed her to use it but they wanted to use an alias. She basically refused that and credited them under their name anyway. And yeah, it was like looking behind the curtain a little bit, but not to the interesting parts of how Gaga made the songs, but to the dark parts. Might just be me, though. I don't think it takes away from the record's beauty, but it just kinda makes me think 'oh well gaga wasn't as involved in the production process that kinda sucks' but it's no big deal. She produced Venus tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, maxblac said: Yeah, I read on Wikipedia that she sampled Aura from a middle eastern duo (?) and the song was already called Burqa. They allowed her to use it but they wanted to use an alias. She basically refused that and credited them under their name anyway. And yeah, it was like looking behind the curtain a little bit, but not to the interesting parts of how Gaga made the songs, but to the dark parts. Might just be me, though. I don't think it takes away from the record's beauty, but it just kinda makes me think 'oh well gaga wasn't as involved in the production process that kinda sucks' but it's no big deal. She produced Venus though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Can’t Beat the Machines is way better than Mary Jane Holland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiecat 16,095 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 but yah this was one of the things i didn't like about ARTPOP, they re-used already made instrumentals and you can tell EDIT: i forgot how awful that song is tho, donatella >>> Also my favourite part of Donatella is the bass synth in the bridge, this doesn't have that https://linktr.ee/jamalholt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitter 14 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Marcel said: Can’t Beat the Machines is way better than Mary Jane Holland Agreed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyBeauty 537 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 im a karma bitch baby epione free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, Edonis said: And, to be honest, I don’t think it really takes away from the album or its merits 23 minutes ago, maxblac said: I don't think it takes away from the record's beauty, but it just kinda makes me think 'oh well gaga wasn't as involved in the production process that kinda sucks' but it's no big deal. I think it does, to say the least. It does because Gaga said stuff like "erase your preconceived notions of my music" or "this is my most personal album" (to that date) or that she did the songs from scratch because she wanted to express her whole emotions and transform those emotions into an album. Apparently, most Zedd produced tracks were recycled instrumentals. It's not a matter of quality, it's a matter of what you say you are delivering and what you really deliver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYGAGASHOOCK 3,986 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Edonis said: Cute, but old news. Venus also contains elements from Rocket Number 9 by Zombie Zombie and Sun-Ra as well. Lots of songs on ARTPOP sample or use previously developed instrumentals. And, to be honest, I don’t think it really takes away from the album or its merits True. Most of the time, instrumentals are like blank canvases. They could become anything. It is the songwriters job to make it into a masterpiece.Truly an ARTPOP expedition But I guess it depends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Wave 7,634 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, iCpro said: Quite a few songs on ARTPOP were already existing instrumentals, Aura too. I remember when I first found out it felt like my whole life was a lie I didn't know Aura already existed! Did it exsist in full or did Gaga take only some parts, like did she sample it or did she reused a fully made instrumental?? Colourful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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