Blond 5,715 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 So heeere we go. Before starting i want you to know that this is more of like question for your opinion. Following immigrant crisis in the Europe,i was pretty okay with it.I thought:'Hey,why wouldn't we let refugees in,they're just be here until war'.Then everything with violence started.Many countries like Sweden and Germany have accepted many,many immigrants.Germany ,i think,accepted 600,000 people,while Sweden 100,000 of which many of them gained permanent residency.After that,they'll get welfare,because many of them will fail to adapt,but...With this they're ruining economy and they're ruining stability.They also often claim some parts of the city as their own,as it's the case in the Sweden often, and make it like their own country.The problem is... Will they adapt?Also immigrant muslim population is growing fast with some of the men having multiple wives gaining many welfare bonuses on burden of the natives.They could replace the natives in the future and implement their own laws which is terrifying.Look at country they came from,it's practically a ruin for any person.When they get the majority of people,they could change so many things.Homosexuality COULD be banned and death sentences might be in the present.So are they okay for us ?Crime rate has also increased My country has accepted about 4 thousand refugees and it's really not much,considering other countries.I also want to a immigrant.My country is also not tolerant.I want to move to some of the West countries,but i'm not going to be violent and i actually will have degree as i'm student right now.But i want to go to the country that IS SAFE,i wouldn't ever want to go to the Sweden for example because of the rising threat for any homosexual there.So where should i go,because it's like there anywhere in the Western Europe now.I can't kiss my boyfriend because of the some people that justify hate through their religion. So no,i don't hate,you cannot actually say that.I'm not racist,i don't hate other religions,but LAWS do exist so should tolerance.Europe wanted to make them adapt,but actually Europe is adapting to refugees and illegal immigrants now. So if i have nowhere to move into (regarding Western Europe) it's still a better thing to move to other parts of the world.Iceland or USA for example... I feel so confused and scared,i don't know what to think about immigrants anymore,but i know that they should go back and rebuild country after war finishes,but the problem is will they and will they stay here and make their own rules and implement sharia law. My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond 5,715 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 I also forgot to say that Muslims ban gays and that's the general truth.Quran preaches about it.Islam is clear in its prohibition of homosexual acts. Islamic scholars cite these reasons for condemning homosexuality, based on teachings of the Qur'an and Sunnah.It clashes with the "natural" order in which God created human beings.It brings destruction of the family and the institutions of marriage.It leads people to ignore God's guidance in other areas of life.Islam teaches that believers should neither be in nor support homosexuality. My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinagirl 132 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Me like all gay muslim and gayness. In shanghai we have gay boy everywere. They dress so nice and make nice tea.My aunt has muslim husband in Mongolia. He dress so nice and give love to all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I once got harassed by a Muslim guy But I wouldn't say all Muslims are bad, though, I think it's important to address Muslim homophobia (as well as Christian homophobia etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Blue 1,335 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I don't know as a muslim. But Qura'n didn't actually talk about gays or lesbians at all Qawm Lout just raped men , but every sheikh took it as they ****ed every men as if they are gay it's just all misunderstanding , but most Muslims are basically brainwashed I am not your plastic doll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond 5,715 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Melech said: I once got harassed by a Muslim guy But I wouldn't say all Muslims are bad, though, I think it's important to address Muslim homophobia (as well as Christian homophobia etc) Christians are actually fighting about it and want to teach people tolerancy.While in most muslim majority countries it's even prohibited to mention gays... 1 minute ago, Alexander Blue said: I don't know as a muslim. But Qura'n didn't actually talk about gays or lesbians at all Qawm Lout just raped men , but every sheikh took it as they ****ed every men as if they are gay it's just all misunderstanding , but most Muslims are basically brainwashed So do you agree the West shouldn't receive that many muslims that gain welfare on many of their children and that (most of them) show hate towards homosexuals and disrespect to the laws? My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdX 2,901 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Gay people need to go out MORE and celebrate who we are. We cannot stay home and be afraid of any hate because then they win. Europe (especially the West) is very gay-friendly and if we allow anyone to take that freedom away from us, we can only blame ourselves for that. Conservative Muslims in the West are the same as conservative Christians in the East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinagirl 132 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Halle said: Gay people need to go out MORE and celebrate who we are. We cannot stay home and be afraid of any hate because then they win. Europe (especially the West) is very gay-friendly and if we allow anyone to take that freedom away from us, we can only blame ourselves for that. Conservative Muslims in the West are the same as conservative Christians in the East. Not all gay like outside. My frend wan from Hong Kong play with americun called scot. He give him disease and he take tablet for 6 day. he fine now but he worry about bum flu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond 5,715 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Halle said: Gay people need to go out MORE and celebrate who we are. We cannot stay home and be afraid of any hate because then they win. Europe (especially the West) is very gay-friendly and if we allow anyone to take that freedom away from us, we can only blame ourselves for that. Conservative Muslims in the West are the same as conservative Christians in the East. You don't get the point.We don't need to celebrate,we should be considered normal ,like it is today.Only the ones that may change it all are these refugees.We don't need to adapt to them and fight for our rights we already have,they MUST adapt to us or else they can go elsewhere and hate there My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,067 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chinagirl said: Not all gay like outside. My frend wan from Hong Kong play with americun called scot. He give him disease and he take tablet for 6 day. he fine now but he worry about bum flu. 25 minutes ago, Chinagirl said: Me like all gay muslim and gayness. In shanghai we have gay boy everywere. They dress so nice and make nice tea.My aunt has muslim husband in Mongolia. He dress so nice and give love to all. who are you omg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdX 2,901 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Blond said: You don't get the point.We don't need to celebrate,we should be considered normal ,like it is today.Only the ones that may change it all are these refugees.We don't need to adapt to them and fight for our rights we already have,they MUST adapt to us or else they can go elsewhere and hate there I meant "celebrate" as in be proud on the inside, because you can't let anyone's hate get to you. Where I live, we have a TON of super-conservative christian (and non-christian) people who are very much against gay people. In the West, there are quite a few conservative muslim people who share similar views on the subject. As we cannot aggressively fight against these people, we have to just live as we are, like you said. I agree that the countries and the EU should take a closer look on these issues. Also, the countries you mentioned are safe. The whole migrant crisis and the issues surrounding it has been exaggerated on the media SOO much. I've been to Sweden, Belgium, the UK, Italy and Germany, walked the streets in rainbow shirts etc. and haven't experienced any discrimination in any of those places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blond 5,715 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, ZiggyZiggs said: who are you omg EXACTLY 4 minutes ago, Halle said: I meant "celebrate" as in be proud on the inside, because you can't let anyone's hate get to you. Where I live, we have a TON of super-conservative christian (and non-christian) people who are very much against gay people. In the West, there are quite a few conservative muslim people who share similar views on the subject. As we cannot aggressively fight against these people, we have to just live as we are, like you said. I agree that the countries and the EU should take a closer look on these issues. Also, the countries you mentioned are safe. The whole migrant crisis and the issues surrounding it has been exaggerated on the media SOO much. I've been to Sweden, Belgium, the UK, Italy and Germany, walked the streets in rainbow shirts etc. and haven't experienced any discrimination in any of those places. That's nice to hear actually,but yeah countries really have to find solution to this crisis My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 We can blame it on Islam but the fact is that it's more or less a regional and cultural issue. Homophobia is strife in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia, even in the West like in the US homophobia is a massive issue where dozens of gay people are killed every year in hate crimes. But it's not necessarily just Muslims, almost all religious group in these areas are extremely homophobic, it also doesn't help with the radicalizing of militant regimes. As someone who has lived in one of the most diverse cities in the US almost their entire life and knows quite a few Muslims, none of them I've met are homophobic people, they're really some of the most tolerant and accepting people I know. The issue is that you have the 2 polar opposites of cultures mixing, it's not an easy thing to overcome and work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 11,049 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I don’t get it Is it that your country homophobic and you want to go somewhere else, or are you afraid of just 1000 refugees and that’s why you want to go somewhere else? No family’s safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Halle said: Also, the countries you mentioned are safe. The whole migrant crisis and the issues surrounding it has been exaggerated on the media SOO much. I've been to Sweden, Belgium, the UK, Italy and Germany, walked the streets in rainbow shirts etc. and haven't experienced any discrimination in any of those places. THIS. SO MUCH. I have several friends who live in Europe, they'll tell you everything that is being reported how Muslims are taking over and everything is a complete lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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