How you see Gaga's career?

[SamJ 8,008]

When Gaga first became a name here in 2009 with her singles from the fame it felt as if she had burst on to the scene as a massively established icon from the start, despite the songs being nearly a year old by the time they reached the summits of our charts it still felt so groundbreaking and innovative but at the same time traditional and familiar, the fame era was the perfect mix of new:trends/culture/sounds/performances with traditional catchy hooks, no one on the planet has ever achived this perfect mix as well as her not even her biggest rivals madonna/britney or anyone, the fame made her one of the biggest stars of the decade in just one album cycle. With the album having 3 massively succesful worldwide singles in Just Dance/Poker Face (two of her MONSTER HITS) and Paparazzi and another big worldwide hit and Lovegame in the short space of around 4 or 5 months between each of them peaking she left people aching for more whereas with so many other artists by this time and after this success their appeal would have worn off already and left people wanting a break from the artist, what made the fame era so succesful was the control that Gaga has on each song, she sounds so formidable/powerful on each track, yet she never overdoes it in anyway, she left parts of her image, voice, performances, unseeable and unhearable to torture us almost to wanting more, she was so gripping with every move and her mysterious appeal was also played out better than any other artist i know of. 

The Fame Monster era was extremely hyped, no other artists 2nd album/EP has ever been this hyped after just several months of her first eras MASSIVE success. She was under a lot of pressure to deliver and match the extremely large numbers she achieved with the first era. The lead single Bad Romance is an anthem of a pop song, it was her most bombastic tune to date, she ramped up the Gaga factor at this point and this MONSTER hit made her an icon, when Bad Romance topped the charts here and across most of the world it put her right up there with all other icons in terms of level of exposure and fame, the song and herself were inescapable and despite not having a long career at this point, her name and brand became as well known and as influencial as any other artists in history in my opinion. Telephone is another one of her MONSTER hits and Alejandro is another worldwide pop classic especially in europe, by the end of the fame monster she had achieved an unprecedented amount of success in an extremely short amount of time and yet people were still hungry for more, her style and performances continued to grow and she became a respected artist of her own. 

After taking a very short break she returned to the music scene with the era Born This Way, she polarized the industry with her political and social views through pop culture, this next move was totally unexpected for me but i love it, she used her extremely large voice and level of fame to spread important messages across the world, she started a religion at this point, people and fans believed in the power of gaga most at this point, her every word was welcomed or scrutinised by the public fans and media alike and she set her values out to the world when we most needed it. The tunes were great, timeless pop classics again but were hers, yes hers, not some manufactured pop, this was authenticity and real but she made it work for the mainstream still, her level of geniusness throughout the born this way era took her from being a worldwide icon to being one of the most influencial people the planet has ever seen to date. This is my personal fav album by the way. 

After what felt like a long break, especially in gagas standards, she came back with ARTPOP, this is a good album with lots of cohesiveness and rawness, however to me it felt like the first time when Gaga tried to fit into the current scene, the sound was very 2012/2013 and despite great songwriting, good solid production and a couple of good videos i felt like Gaga had lost her sense of self worth, with songs such as dope i felt as if she was lost in life and was out of control i felt like she hadnt got enough confidence to create her own sound anymore and it left me in a love hate relationship with the album at the time, although now i find the era very nostalgic and fun it just felt odd and i know we should expect odd with Gaga but it just did feel odd. 

The mid teens were full of great performances by Gaga she put the Lady back into Lady Gaga she showed her classy, talented side more than ever before, hence showing her savvyness again, her every move became very interesting and a shake up was needed, i felt like she regained control and knew what she was doing, her level of recognition and praise kept coming and coming throughout the C2C era and through many live performances at many events and appearances she became critically acclaimed through an era with no album. 

She returned with Joanne in late 2016, a very consistent album with a good clear theme, she showed off her great pipes once more and became more and more involved in her work and music production in this era, the performances at the dive bar tour and smaller promo events showed a personal intimate side to gaga that she hasnt showed before, the album as a whole is timeless, and with great live performances by the end of 2016 she had accumilated decent success for an era at her stage in her career after being out the main spotlight for some time. Throughout 2017 with her large performances most notably the superbowl, her tour, her new music videos and her single The Cure she has gained so much more commercial success and cemented herself as a legend in the music industry, she has received so much critical acclaim/chart and album success in the past year that she is now one of the all time greats without a shadow of a doubt and she is the greatest living legend of all time in my opinion. 

What do you think of her career, and is my perception accurate or delusional comment below

[Guest]

What career

 

[Sailor 3,321]

I believe that ARTPOP displayed her at her best in a creative sense.

She wanted artistic relevance and pop music to come together, but she could only do that outside of the music due to her record label and god knows what else wanting her to be a mainstream pop sensation.

I long for the day that she puts her middle finger up to everybody, opens a SoundCloud account, and does whatever the **** she wants.

[SamJ 8,008]

1 minute ago, Sailor said:

I believe that ARTPOP displayed her at her best in a creative sense.

I think the Applause and GUY videos are awesome and beautiful but the output visually was lacking as there wasnt an era full of visuals, i have to disagree. Maybe if DWUW had a vid too i might have agreed but there wasnt enough visuals put out for me.

[Sailor 3,321]

4 minutes ago, UK Monster said:

I think the Applause and GUY videos are awesome and beautiful but the output visually was lacking as there wasnt an era full of visuals, i have to disagree. Maybe if DWUW had a vid too i might have agreed but there wasnt enough visuals put out for me.

I know for a fact she is intelligent enough to produce something on a wider scale than G.U.Y. It was the least creative of all her music videos (excluding Million Raisins, obviously ). I mean, certain parts were good, but a lot of it was just compensating. How to make a good video? Add in some housewives playing the banjo and Photoshop yourself onto Lego sculptures and dance with sexy men. Look back only a few years and she was so far ahead of everybody both visually and musically.

I reckon she can't do what she wants. People are pulling strings. Even in that documentary, you seen she had "creative directors" and people running around helping her pick out clothes. She doesn't have as much creative freedom as I think she should. I'm sure she had a lot of ideas for ARTPOP as a visual album (especially with the app and all that stuff), but it just couldn't come together.

[Ziggy 11,787]

21 minutes ago, Sailor said:

I believe that ARTPOP displayed her at her best in a creative sense.

She wanted artistic relevance and pop music to come together, but she could only do that outside of the music due to her record label and god knows what else wanting her to be a mainstream pop sensation.

I long for the day that she puts her middle finger up to everybody, opens a SoundCloud account, and does whatever the **** she wants.

Well, I think a lot of ARTPOP's era was hindered by Troy's leaving. Everything else before was the label trying to get her to put some pop into her EDM sound because, honestly, when you hear an instrumental like Onion Girl or even MJH it's like, this isn't pop music, and she's a pop artist. So I think that there has been a big struggle between Gaga and her label sonically since BTW. Her first three albums, she wanted to make this synthesis of sounds. With ARTPOP, she wanted to dedicate herself to EDM and her label was like, "nah" (hence the Aura leak, I imagine; they probably said those vocals weren't pop radio friendly). Then look at Joanne and it's the same thing. She brought in Bloodpop? Oh yeah, that *totally* sounds like Gaga (rolls eyes). She *always* looks to bring in top 40 pop producers on her albums (especially when she has people like Beck, Father John Misty, Florence welch and Kevin Parker involved). It was clear that she was aiming to go a little further into the genre and, again, dedicate herself more to the sound, but her label seemed to think otherwise. But in the case of Joanne, I'm happy she's happy with it. I do like it, I just know that, like ARTPOP, it was not fully what she was looking to create.

I, too, would love seeing her just do her thing, but she'd have to pay for studio time and employees and all of that and that ish is expensive. Even if she has all the money in the world, it's still one of those higher expenditures especially given how long she spends in the studio hahaha

[Swine 504]

I am honestly just praying for that metal album that will make everyone burn the ugly pink hates and boots.

[ryanripley 86,575]

4 minutes ago, Swine said:

I am honestly just praying for that metal album that will make everyone burn the ugly pink hates and boots.

i was gunna like this until the end part

[ryanripley 86,575]

EN EE WAYS

i will forever be pressedt that the label was so rude to ARTPOP like that, if they had just let it LIVE then we would have seen some of her best concepts, even if it is my least favourite album

unfortunatly, what did happen resulted it in becoming my least favourite era too, knowing about all the BTS stuff, all her crushed ideas and dreams, it feels horrible to have a concept you love just get ripped to shreds  

maybe she'll attempt another huge era again and hopefully the label will fully support her because the JWT being her best tour yet is enough proof that they should have faith in her

[Guest bostonGUY]

32 minutes ago, Sailor said:

I believe that ARTPOP displayed her at her best in a creative sense.

 

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[TheRoof 21,600]

19 minutes ago, Swine said:

I am honestly just praying for that metal album that will make everyone burn the ugly pink hates and boots.