Rap and Homophobia

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I was thinking about Migos and their homophobia scandal from earlier this year. It got me thinking about rap and the culture of homophobia that exists in it. Surely Migos isn't the only act that is homophobic. I remember Iggy Azalea talking about how she would be in the studio and wouldn't bring her gay friends into the studio because the guys she was working with were homophobic. There have been many other discussions about this before. This recent article in vulture discusses this click here for article.

 

 

What's interesting to me is that the biggest names in rap are the ones who are MOST supportive of LGBT people. We've got Jay-Z, Kanye and Drake who are quite supportive of LGBT people. Drake's support dates back to Degrassi in the early 00's. Lil Kim has perhaps been the most supportive rapper of LGBT people. Back when she reigned, she spoke out for LGBT people. My question to you is, should these big names in rap take more of an active role in creating a culture of acceptance about LGBT people in the rap community, or no? Also, what are your thoughts about rap and homophobia?

 

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Homophobia, in any context, in my opinion, is wrong. I don't care if this is about rap, about someone's religion, etc. If there is hate or discrimination just because of someone's sexual orientation (or gender identity if we're talking about the LGBTQ community in general), then I don't care what kind of context it's in, it's wrong.

Specifically talking about rap, and the community that surrounds it, I do think it's important for them to acknowledge the homophobia within their community, and put an end to its hate. Realistically, it's not going to be easy, but in any scenario, whether it be about sexual orientation or gender identity, race, religion, etc. etc., if there is any sort of discrimination or hatred, it must be stopped, or at the very least, spoken out against.

EDIT - We need more people to be able to speak about. People like Logic and Macklemore are great examples of this. They use their voice to promote and raise awareness about certain issues, and I think it's beautiful that they're doing so. 

I know I'm going to go off on a tangent here, but it just baffles me that some rappers, and just artists in general, are willing to write stuff purely about sex, and drugs, objectifying women, and all that ****, but then they aren't willing to speak about issues that really matter. 

I recently just rewatched an early interview from the Joanne era and Gaga discusses this exact concept. She's amazed by how people are willing to write and sing about trival things, but aren't willing to look at the big picture and write about meaningful stuff. Sure, it's there art and they have every right to write about what they want to write about, but when you have a voice, you need to use it for something good.

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It is widely known that homophobia are rampant within rap/hip hop community.

That is why Gaga shelved his collab with Kendrick cos his camp doesn't like how the songs sounds cos it's "too gay", Gaga implicitly referring to it by saying she is an artist and won't compromise any tweaking of her creations without permission.

I think it just they way they brought up, many POC famiies are very religious. Many POC gays are actually kicked out of the house when their parents found out if they are lucky, I said this because many of them will likely be murdered too just by being gay or bi or trans. It happened in the past if you read the news. Some people take them as disgrace to the family or to the community as a whole. 

But with some younger rappers being more educated on the issues, perhaps things can change albeit very slowly?

 

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I'm glad that a rap-song like Logic 1-800-273-8255 hit the top of charts, specially this time 

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They can say what tf they can. I don’t give a sh*t if Migos doesn’t like me. I don’t like Migos either.

I do think that rappers that approve of homosexuality should promote it more to the rap world as well because of the homophobia that exists amongst rap, but unfortunately we cannot change people’s minds that easily.

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Rap/Hip-Hop/whatever you want to call it is trash these days anyway.There aren't even 2 good rap/hip-hop song on the radio now.

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I was just reading how Macklemore made Same Love to counter specifically Homophobia in Rap industry. 

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It's a very difficult discussion. Personally, I do find it odd that such a marginalized group of people would dare oppress another group. But then again I always go back to a Rupaul quote stating "Shunned by whites for being black, by blacks for being gay, and by gays for being fem. The real tee? Ego needs to feel superior over others."

I do find rap/hiphop to be intimidating for this reason. A lot of the time I try and make sure that the artists I listen to aren't homophobic. And that's a trend I'd hope to see end. I find it odd that the community is so willing to speak out about Trump and yet they can't do the same about rappers/singers saying just as crude things about the LGBTQ community. There's a reason why PoC in the LGBTQ community suffer at much higher rates than non-PoC. And some of that goes back to the culture that rap culture helps foster. We can argue that we can just ignore Migos/Quavo, but they're still one of the biggest acts out there. And people will still mindlessly cheer them on.

Another example is that Kim Burrell singer whom Ellen booted from her show after she went on a rampage about anti-LGBTQ messages. And a lot of what I saw from black celebrities was either silence or them excusing her. 

And what about Moonlight? The film literally won Best Picture and yet I saw no one in the LGBTQ or black communities talking about the landmark win. 

There's definitely no a place for LGBTQ in some aspects. And in many ways LGBTQ do shine in the rap community or someplace else in the entertainment industry. But yhe problem is that people aren't willing to even mention someone gay in fear of being called gay themselves. And that's quite cowardly. However, recently there has been a some pro-gay rhetoric coming from the rap community by people coming out or with positive lines in songs. Hopefully, we'll see action at some point. 

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14 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said:

Rap/Hip-Hop/whatever you want to call it is trash these days anyway.There aren't even 2 good rap/hip-hop song on the radio now.

I agree unless R&B and all that counts (see: SZA/Kelela/some Bey songs etc.). R&B is currently at one of its highest peaks since the 2001-2005ish.

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1 minute ago, tthen said:

I agree unless R&B and all that counts (see: SZA/Kelela/some Bey songs etc.). R&B is currently at one of its highest peaks since the 2001-2005ish.

Yeah,I only meant like literal Rap/Hip-Hop

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Just now, LittleMonster20 said:

Yeah,I only meant like literal Rap/Hip-Hop

Yea then I fully agree. There are a few hidden gems (like Noname), but the genre is mostly trash these days. Mostly money hookers alcohol drugs mixed with random noises and mumbling, followed by Pitchfork and Vulture giving it a 8.5-9/10 and calling them THE artists of 2017 (yet calling Adele bland and a 7/10  like sis what )

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3 minutes ago, tthen said:

Yea then I fully agree. There are a few hidden gems (like Noname), but the genre is mostly trash these days. Mostly money hookers alcohol drugs mixed with random noises and mumbling, followed by Pitchfork and Vulture giving it a 8.5-9/10 and calling them THE artists of 2017 (yet calling Adele bland and a 7/10  like sis what )

Indeed

Almost all good music(and artists too for that matter)is gone since like,2015 or so.

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43 minutes ago, LittleMonster20 said:

Indeed

Almost all good music(and artists too for that matter)is gone since like,2015 or so.

Tbh 2013 and 14 weren't great for music. Miley and that horrific rape anthem were dominating the summer (and that mind numbing Get Lucky), and I can't think of a good release in 2013 besides Pure Heroine and Beyonce (even then Bey's self titled is ha most overrated album and yes I'm aware I'm gonna be bombarded with ARTPOP). In 2014 there was Happy (released in 2013 but wasn't massive until 14) which wanted to make me reconsider being alive. C2C is the only good thing I can think of during such a dark year for music. 2014 was the year of ass (Anaconda and Booty being standouts). Igloo Australia was also relevant which was horrendous.

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1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

 

That is why Gaga shelved his collab with Kendrick cos his camp doesn't like how the songs sounds cos it's "too gay",

 

what?? where did u hear this

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44 minutes ago, tthen said:

Tbh 2013 and 14 weren't great for music. Miley and that horrific rape anthem were dominating the summer (and that mind numbing Get Lucky), and I can't think of a good release in 2013 besides Pure Heroine and Beyonce (even then Bey's self titled is ha most overrated album and yes I'm aware I'm gonna be bombarded with ARTPOP). In 2014 there was Happy (released in 2013 but wasn't massive until 14) which wanted to make me reconsider being alive. C2C is the only good thing I can think of during such a dark year for music. 2014 was the year of ass (Anaconda and Booty being standouts). Igloo Australia was also relevant which was horrendous.

2014 was a horrible year for music indeed. Less than ten of good albums were release, imo. Karmin, Ingrid, Lorde, Sia, and Troye were the only saving graces to name a few. And of those only "Same Love", "Girls Chase Boys", and "Gasoline" featured LGBT influences.