calmar 22,038 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, slayo said: take a walk sweetie Not sure why you're so upset As a PhD student in linguistics I definitely have an opinion on this kind of thing and I have the ability to back it up. 8 minutes ago, Funkymonkey said: whut tl;dr prescriptivism (having a standard grammar of English that is correct and any other variety is objectively wrong) is stupid, descriptivism (there is no one variety of English better than any other and grammar is a thing which has and always will change over time, so it is better to simply describe what exists rather than imposing one person's view on others on how language should be used) rocks. 1 minute ago, Acsnpdx8 said: Gaga? Gaga would make more spelling mistakes 俺の勝利は揺るぎない Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaanBTW 5,244 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I stand here waiting for you to bang the gong To crash the critic saying, "Is it right or is it wrong?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,876 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 i'm more bothered by her singing "et je veux ton revenge" which is not a word in french. it's "ta revanche" and the studio version does sound like that but she says the former in her live performances. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,876 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, calmar said: Not sure why you're so upset As a PhD student in linguistics I definitely have an opinion on this kind of thing and I have the ability to back it up. people are scared of knowledge, don't mind chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Stache 2,066 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Go troll Ari stans for her saying "now that I've become who I really are" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumours 45,521 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 This grammar mistake always bothers me when listening to Bad Romance. However, the lyric that bothers me the most in terms of a grammatical error is the following line from Ariana’s song Break Free: “...now that I’ve become who I really are...” It makes it unlistenable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 a Song is a POEM, and written by a POET and they have this so called "POETIC LICENSE" As a general rule, poetry has a carefully controlled verbal structure. The metre of the poem, the pattern of stressed and unstressed syllables, and the sounds and modulations of the words themselves all affect the subtle meanings and feelings that the poet may be trying to convey or evoke. Poets may distort normal prose patterns for the sake of form and therefore assume poetic license; it is solely a matter of aesthetic judgment and sensibility as to whether the alterations enhance or detract from the total effect of the poem https://www.britannica.com/art/poetic-license Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Princess Stache said: Go troll Ari stans for her saying "now that I've become who I really are" 11 minutes ago, Rumours1977 said: This grammar mistake always bothers me when listening to Bad Romance. However, the lyric that bothers me the most in terms of a grammatical error is the following line from Ariana’s song Break Free: “...now that I’ve become who I really are...” It makes it unlistenable that's another example of "Poetic License".. I only wanna die alive Never by the hands of a broken heart Don't wanna hear you lie tonight Now that I've become who I really are the composer wanted that rhyme for the end of 2nd and 4th line.. he/she have that freedom as the composer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, GeeYewWhai said: Ok. Shouldn't it be "you and I could write a bad romance" not "you and me..." Was singing to Bad Romance the other day and it kinda hit me... ""Consider the following sentence: You and I should have lunch. Is the correct form of this sentence You and I ... or You and me ...? This is a common source of confusion in English. Fortunately, there's an easy way to decide whether to use I or me in such sentences. All you have to do is drop the word you then try the sentence with I and me one at a time. For example: I should have lunch. Me should have lunch. Clearly the preferred form in this case is I; thus, the original sentence was correct to use you and I."" If we apply that to the lyric... You could have a bad romance Me could have a bad romance So technically it should be You and I could write a bad romance. It doesn't sound right, but grammatically speaking it is. Maybe that's why she released You and I as a single. To cover up the mistake Also, is it "right" or "write" a bad romance? Enigma popstar she is. you're getting too far sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 and by the way, these things are normal in poetry and songs.. y'all just didn't notice it because the final product flows perfectly in your tongue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Creative writing breaks a lot of grammar rules. Go open one of your fav novels and see how many sentences start with "And". It's poetry. It's flow is more important than grammar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,498 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, YourWhiskyMouth said: She’s already been exposed by a grammar textbook for this Queen of getting exposed by a grammar textbook for her bad grammar in one of her most iconic songs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I googled examples and.. Bringing things a little more up to date, Lady Gaga makes the same error in the song ‘You and I’, when she sings: Oh, yeah, I’d rather die Without you and I Gaga, a serial offender, is guilty of the reverse error in the song ‘Bad Romance’, with this line: You and me could write a bad romance. Me could write a bad romance? If only she could pay as much attention to her pronouns as she does to her outfits… https://dictionaryblog.cambridge.org/2014/04/03/the-top-5-ungrammatical-song-lyrics/amp/ shady bitch.. that is the whole point of "Poetic License".. they can defy grammar in order to have the perfect flow for stressing, intonation, modulation, metre and rhyme.. imagine Oh, yeah, I’d rather die Without you and me where is the rhyme for die and me??? where??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 115,001 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 It’s still not topping “my mama don’t like you” by Justin So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 4,679 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 54 minutes ago, calmar said: Not sure why you're so upset As a PhD student in linguistics I definitely have an opinion on this kind of thing and I have the ability to back it up. tl;dr prescriptivism (having a standard grammar of English that is correct and any other variety is objectively wrong) is stupid, descriptivism (there is no one variety of English better than any other and grammar is a thing which has and always will change over time, so it is better to simply describe what exists rather than imposing one person's view on others on how language should be used) rocks. Gaga would make more spelling mistakes weeeeerrrrkkkkkkkk qwwwweeeennnnn teach us gays how to be linguistically correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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