Swine 504 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, ryanripley said: well that kind of makes sense since her next big project isn't an album, it's a documentary that goes very deep and rawly into her personal life It has been like that since ARTPOP. How many articles complimented the MR video, for example? There's no focus on her music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Except for the Y&I and the MTN videos, I mostly agree with the first two topics. I'm still not sure about the third topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, JustaMonster said: So you want her to be more controlled by the label just to get smash hits and do less of what she wants to do? She has stated multiple times that she hates being just a cash cow for people to make money from. Was she a cash cow and a label puppet back then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayGagaloo 16,152 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, supercut said: i think gaga is now an album seller - no matter if the records themselves get hits or not. you see, perfect illusion had a moderate commercial success, but joanne still did 200k+ first week and is on track to reach 1,5kk sales worldwide, which are amazing numbers for the streaming era (specially considering the album only had 2 singles). also - she is a pretty strong ticket seller, which is a plus because that's where most part of an artist's profits come from. "an album seller", Sure Joanne. Million Reasons reached #4 And she had the Halftime Show exposure... Bayonsa did 3 millions WW with 0 hits Over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Omg that's not two cents, that's a whole fiver Imma reply once I'm from jogging if the thread is not locked by that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, Swine said: It has been like that since ARTPOP. How many articles complimented the MR video, for example? There's no focus on her music. that's not a great example considering MR isn't a good video there's plenty of articles about Joanne when it came out, because that was the focus at the time. plus, don't act like her media coverage pre-ARTPOP was perfect she was mainstream for having a penis for YEARS, i don't recall an album or song being about that she's obviously at her peak when it comes to respect and talent with the GP, look at how well everything from C2C to now has boosted her image, whether they discuss music or not. the majority that hate her these days are just pressed teenage stans https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, SlayGagaloo said: "an album seller", Sure Joanne. Million Reasons reached #4 And she had the Halftime Show exposure... Bayonsa did 3 millions WW with 0 hits you don't think she's an album seller? since her albums are way more successful than her singles? https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustaMonster 4,909 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: Was she a cash cow and a label puppet back then? She said “I’ve had to make decisions like, ‘Why am I unhappy? Why is it that you want to quit music – two years ago?’ I don’t like having to sell perfumes. Wasting my time spending days just shaking people’s hands and smiling, taking selfies – it feels shallow to my existence. I have a lot more to offer than my image. I don’t like being used to make people money. I feel sad when I’m overworked and I become a moneymaking machine and my passion and creativity takes a backseat.” Which is why she should just do whatever makes her happy unless you want her to almost quit music again. Hands up to the sky, I'm about to fly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swine 504 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, bumblebee said: Omg that's not two cents, that's a whole fiver Imma reply once I'm from jogging if the thread is not locked by that time Pray for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 If I continue discussing I'll be taken wrongly, so I'll just lurk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet spot 3,241 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, SlayGagaloo said: "an album seller", Sure Joanne. Million Reasons reached #4 And she had the Halftime Show exposure... Bayonsa did 3 millions WW with 0 hits have i said she doesn't chart singles well anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swine 504 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, ryanripley said: that's not a great example considering MR isn't a good video there's plenty of articles about Joanne when it came out, because that was the focus at the time. plus, don't act like her media coverage pre-ARTPOP was perfect she was mainstream for having a penis for YEARS, i don't recall an album or song being about that she's obviously at her peak when it comes to respect and talent with the GP, look at how well everything from C2C to now has boosted her image, whether they discuss music or not. the majority that hate her these days are just pressed teenage stans How many articles complimented PI? Or You and I? Or GUY? Or JW? That rumor was going around for many years, and still she managed to play with it and profit. Have you seen the metacritic ratings? You gotta be kidding me. Nobody hates her because she is just boring. There's nothing BIG coming from her these days, she's no longer a target. Look at Taylor Swift. The backlash is real, and yet she is at her peak right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayGagaloo 16,152 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ryanripley said: you don't think she's an album seller? since her albums are way more successful than her singles? Joanne's numbers are good, but nothing special I gave Beyoncé as an example of an album seller. Top40 radios literally ignored her ass, but she was still able to create this huge moment with Lemonade (it doubles Ariana's, Rihanna's, or Sia's...... Numbers WW) with absolutely NO hits Over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swine 504 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, JustaMonster said: She said “I’ve had to make decisions like, ‘Why am I unhappy? Why is it that you want to quit music – two years ago?’ I don’t like having to sell perfumes. Wasting my time spending days just shaking people’s hands and smiling, taking selfies – it feels shallow to my existence. I have a lot more to offer than my image. I don’t like being used to make people money. I feel sad when I’m overworked and I become a moneymaking machine and my passion and creativity takes a backseat.” Which is why she should just do whatever makes her happy unless you want her to almost quit music again. She had the most control during Joanne, and yet we got the least creative, daring and inspiring album era ever... No videos, no interviews, nothing substancial shooting for the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayGagaloo 16,152 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, supercut said: have i said she doesn't chart singles well anymore? No sis. I meant that given the exposure Joanne had (MR did really good on radio, SB...) the numbers are similar to other pop girls who are not considered album sellers... Maybe 1 million PURE sales in the US would've changed my mind Over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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