Woman with Burqa beats up woman because she sells Bikinis in Berlin

[StrawberryBlond 15,567]

@Whispering  You really need to stop being cheeky. You're taking things too far. You know you're getting to me. You know what I'm talking about and that I'm talking about the situation in Europe, which is is what this article is about. I reply very briefly to one quick comment about America and you go full-on pretentious, pulling out TLDR receipts. So, what is the relevance of bringing up all this stuff happening in America just for the sake of a quick comment? For someone who once claimed that people should stay in their own lanes when talking about situations in continents that they don't live in, you sure are showing yourself up as a hypocrite. Coming into this thread and making it all about America when it's about Europe is just typical of "America is the world" mindset.

[Pacify Him 9,073]

Oh it goes against her Islam Religion .. okay GGD will allow it  

[Whispering 18,865]

On 9/10/2017 at 11:34 AM, StrawberryBlond said:

@Whispering  You really need to stop being cheeky. You're taking things too far. You know you're getting to me. You know what I'm talking about and that I'm talking about the situation in Europe, which is is what this article is about. I reply very briefly to one quick comment about America and you go full-on pretentious, pulling out TLDR receipts. So, what is the relevance of bringing up all this stuff happening in America just for the sake of a quick comment? For someone who once claimed that people should stay in their own lanes when talking about situations in continents that they don't live in, you sure are showing yourself up as a hypocrite. Coming into this thread and making it all about America when it's about Europe is just typical of "America is the world" mindset.

"Incidents like this aren't happening all the time in America, it's an isolated incident"

Stating facts that show that your statement was innocent is not being "cheeky". 

You are the one who made a statement about the US. You chose to quote a comment about the US and go on to make a statement about it. You want it to be all about Europe? Then keep it on that. 

 

[StrawberryBlond 15,567]

4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

"Incidents like this aren't happening all the time in America, it's an isolated incident"

Stating facts that show that your statement was innocent is not being "cheeky". 

You are the one who made a statement about the US. You want it to be all about Europe? Then keep it on that. 

I still wouldn't call all the incidents you listed as "happening all the time in America." America is a nation of over 325 million, spread across one of the widest areas of the world, with many regions where there's barely anyone living there. When you live in a nation of just 65 million where everyone is very closely living together and you're having an extremist Islamist attack on it every couple of weeks/months as has been the case recently, it's going to be a much bigger reverberations throughout and will affect more people. It's clear that someone like me is going to have a very different idea of "happening all the time."

You may have stated facts but you overstated them in a bid to make me look uninformed and unintelligent and affect my reputation around here and you did it in a very pretentious way. When I pull out receipts like that, people just laugh at me for making too long a post, just saying.

I made a statement about the US because I was replying to someone else's statement about the US, which I was pointing out was irrelevant to the discussion. Got you there.

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, StrawberryBlond said:

I still wouldn't call all the incidents you listed as "happening all the time in America." America is a nation of over 325 million, spread across one of the widest areas of the world, with many regions where there's barely anyone living there. When you live in a nation of just 65 million where everyone is very closely living together and you're having an extremist Islamist attack on it every couple of weeks/months as has been the case recently, it's going to be a much bigger reverberations throughout and will affect more people. It's clear that someone like me is going to have a very different idea of "happening all the time."

You may have stated facts but you overstated them in a bid to make me look uninformed and unintelligent and affect my reputation around here and you did it in a very pretentious way. When I pull out receipts like that, people just laugh at me for making too long a post, just saying.

I made a statement about the US because I was replying to someone else's statement about the US, which I was pointing out was irrelevant to the discussion. Got you there.

These are the more serious incidents, ones that result in death or multiple deaths. There are hundreds of other hate crimes that happen and others that are attempted by neo-nazis. Certainly more than "an isolated incident". 

No, I posted a list I found easily with a google search. You can do the same and be more informed in the future on the state of hate crimes dealing with race or religion in the last couple of decades in the US.

You made an innacurate statement quoting a comment, that according to you was off topic. That's on you. 

[lego 44,165]

21 hours ago, Whispering said:

Oct. 9, 1995. An Amtrak employee is killed when a train derails near Hyder, Arizona because the track it's traveling on has been sabotaged. The perpetrators are never found, but anti-law enforcement propaganda messages from the "Sons of Gestapo" are found near the scene.

April 12, 1996. A neo-Nazi named Larry Wayne Shoemake, who is found to have owned at least 22 firearms and an estimated 20,000 rounds of ammunition, kills a black man in a random Jackson, Mississippi attack.

July 27, 1996. A bomb set by Eric Robert Rudolph, who is affiliated with the "Christian Identity" fundamentalist movement, kills one person at the Atlanta Olympics.

Jan. 29, 1998. Another bomb set by Rudolph kills a man at a Birmingham abortion clinic.

May 29, 1998. Three militia sympathizers named Alan Pilon, Robert Mason and Jason McVean fire 29 shots at a Cortez, Colorado police officer who is trying to apprehend them because they've stolen a water truck, killing him. The three evade capture but are believed to ultimately have died in the desert wilderness surrounding the crime scene.

Oct. 23, 1998. With his wife and children nearby, an abortion provider in Amherst, New York is shot and killed through the window of his home by James Charles Kopp.

July 1, 1999. Brothers Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams, who also have connections to the "Christian Identity" movement, kill a gay couple in Redding, California.

July 2–July 5 1999. Neo-Nazi Benjamin Nathaniel Smith kills black basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong and and a Korean graduate student and wounds nine other non-white victims in a three-day shooting spree.

Aug. 10, 1999. Neo-Nazi Buford Furrow kills a Filipino immigrant after firing 70 shots inside a Jewish community center near Los Angeles.

April 28, 2000. An unemployed immigration attorney named Richard Baumhammers who believes "non-white immigration" should be banned shoots and kills five people in the Pittsburgh area.

Sept. 15–Oct. 4, 2001. Mark Stroman, a lifelong criminal with connections to the Aryan Brotherhood, shoots three South Asian men in the Dallas area—killing two—in what he describes as revenge for 9/11.

Dec. 8, 2003. Steven Bixby kills two police officers in Abbeville, South Carolina during a dispute over the state's decision to use a 20-foot strip of the Bixbys' land to widen a highway.

May 24, 2004. Wade and Christopher Lay, a father-son pair obsessed with the 1993 government siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, kill a bank security guard in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

July 27, 2008. Jim David Adkisson shoots and kills two people during a childrens' performance of a musical at a Unitarian Univeralist church in Knoxville, Tennessee, telling police that he intended to target individuals who had voted for liberals and Democrats.

Jan. 21, 2009. Neo-Nazi Keith Luke rapes and kills an immigrant from Cape Verde in Brockton, Massachusetts, then kills a 72-year-old homeless immigrant.

April 4, 2009. Richard Andrew Poplawski, a frequent poster on the white supremacist Stormfront website who apparently believes a national "gun ban" is imminent, kills three Pittsburgh police officers.

April 25, 2009. Joshua Cartwright kills two Okaloosa County, Florida sheriff's deputies. Per a police report, Cartwright's wife says he was paranoid about the U.S. government and "extremely disturbed" by Barack Obama's election.

May 30, 2009. Shawna Forde, Albert Gaxiola, and Jason Bush kill a Latino man and his nine-year-old daughter in Arivaca, Arizona during a robbery intended to raise funds for the "Minutemen American Defense" group.

May 31, 2009. Scott Roeder kills Dr. George Tiller, an abortion provider, in the Wichita, Kansas Lutheran church where Tiller serves as an usher.

June 10, 2009. An 89-year-old white supremacist named James von Brunn kills a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. from point-blank range.

Feb. 18, 2010. Joseph Andrew Stack flies a plane into an Austin, Texas IRS office, killing one person.

May 20, 2010. A father-son pair named Jerry and Joseph Kane (who conduct "seminars" about how "sovereign citizens" can evade debt) kill two West Memphis, Arkansas police officers.

Sept. 26–Oct. 3, 2011. Avowed white supremacists David Joseph Pedersen and Holly Ann Grigsby kill Pedersen's father and stepmother in Washington, a man they believe is Jewish in Oregon, and a black man in California.*

Aug. 5, 2012. A white supremacist named Wade Michael Page kills six people at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

Aug. 16, 2012. "Sovereign citizen"-movement adherents Brian Smith and Kyle Joekel, who are now awaiting trial, allegedly kill two Louisiana sheriff's deputies in a trailer-park ambush.

Sept. 4, 2012. Christopher Lacy, a software engineer who lives in a rural trailer and apparently sympathizes with the "sovereign citizen" movement, shoots a California Highway Patrol officer who dies the next day.

April 13, 2014. Frazier Glenn Miller, a 73-year-old with a long history of KKK activity, kills three people in the area of a Jewish community center and Jewish retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas.

June 8, 2014. Jerad and Amanda Miller kill two police officers in a random attack at a pizza restaurant in Las Vegas, then kill a customer at a Walmart. The Millers had spent time on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's property during protests related to Bundy's dispute with the federal government.

Sept. 12, 2014. Eric Frein allegedly shoots and kills a Pennsylvania state trooper; he's caught 48 days later after hiding from authorities in "survivalist" fashion in a rural area.

June 17, 2015. Dylann Roof murders nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

July 24, 2015. John Russell Houser, a 59-year-old man with a history of expressing extremist and anti-feminist beliefs, kills two women at a screening of the Amy Schumer comedy Trainwreck in Lafayette, Louisiana.

Nov. 27, 2015. A 57-year-old religious fanatic named Robert Lewis Dear shoots and kills three people, including a police officer, at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs.

March 20, 2017. A 28-year-old white supremacist named James Harris Jackson stabs a 66-year-old black stranger to death in midtown Manhattan.

May 26, 2017. Two men are stabbed to death on a light-rail train in Portland, Oregon by a "known local white supremacist" named Jeremy Joseph Christian.

Aug. 12, 2017. A white supremacist named James Fields Jr. attending the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, allegedly runs over and kills an anti-racism protester.

 

 

21 hours ago, Whispering said:

The white supremacist movement in the United States has a strong association with violence and criminal activity, ranging from traditional crimes such as drug dealing or domestic violence to ideologically-related crimes ranging from hate crimes to act of terrorism. Every week new criminal incidents emerge.

Selected white supremacist-related criminal incidents from recent years are shown below:

2012

Oak Creek, Wisconsin, August 5, 2012: White supremacist Wade Michael Page allegedly opens fire in a Sikh temple, killing six and wounding four before shooting himself after being wounded by police. Page was a member of the Hammerskins, a racist skinhead group. He also played in the white power bands End Apathy and Definite Hate.

Central Florida, May 2012: Fourteen white supremacist members of the racist skinhead group American Front are arrested on paramilitary training, hate crime, weapons and conspiracy charges. The members allegedly discussed a number of possible actions, including creating a disturbance in front of Orlando’s city hall, firing into a building, and attacking an anti-racist event.

Gilbert, Arizona, May 3, 2012: White supremacist and anti-immigration extremist J.T. Ready shoots and kills four people, including an infant, before fatally shooting himself.

Naugatuck, Connecticut, March 2012: Connecticut skinhead Stephen Sorriero is arrested and charged with two counts of first-degree assault and breach of peace relating to a St. Patrick’s Day double stabbing.

Illinois and Florida, March 2012: Members of a white supremacist biker gang associated with Aryan Nations are arrested in Florida on drugs and explosives charges following a three-year undercover police investigation. Some of the suspects were charged with threatening to throw a destructive device, while several others were charged with trafficking in prescription drugs and other offenses.

2011

Washington, Oregon, California, September-October 2011: Unaffiliated white supremacists David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby allegedly engage in a multi-state killing spree. Authorities say that the couple murdered Pedersen’s father and stepmother in Seattle, a random white male in Oregon as part of a carjacking, and an African-American male in California as part of another carjacking.

Houston, Texas, August 2011: White supremacists Charles Cannon, Michael McLaughlin, and Brian Kerstetter allegedly attack a 29-year-old African American man at a Houston bus stop while hurling racial epithets at the victim. According to the indictment, at least one of the defendants used racial slurs, while all four defendants surrounded the victim, punching and kicking his head, face and body.

Spokane, Washington, February 2011: White supremacist Kevin Harpham is arrested for the failed bombing of a Spokane, Washington, Martin Luther King, Jr., Day parade. Harpham planted a backpack containing a pipe bomb designed to be triggered by a radio frequency system along the parade route. Harpham was sentenced to 32 years in prison.

Hardy, Arkansas, January 2011: Five white supremacists associated with Blood & Honour and the racist prison gang Aryan Circle firebomb the residence of an interracial couple. Jason Barnwell was sentenced to 20 years; Gary Dodson to 15 years; Wendy Treybig, Dustin Hammond, and Jake Murphy pleaded guilty, each receiving sentences between 21 and 54 months.

Phoenix, Arizona, January 2011: White supremacist Jeffrey Harbin, who has ties to the National Socialist Movement, is arrested for possessing and transporting an explosive device. He was sentenced to two years in prison after pleading guilty.

Cooperstown, North Dakota, January 2011: Self-proclaimed white supremacist Daniel Wacht murders and decapitates 54-year-old Kurt Johnson. Johnson's severed head was found in a crawl space in Wacht's basement. His body has not been found. Wacht was sentenced to serve life in prison with no parole.

2009

Norway, Wisconsin, November 2009: Sean Riker, a white supremacist affiliated with the gang Nazi Low Riders, a racist prison and street gang, is arrested on charges of possession of a firearm, possession of a short barreled rifle, first-degree recklessly endangering public safety, battery, strangulation, sexual abuse of a child, child abuse, and causing mental harm to a child. Riker was found guilty and sentenced to 200 years in prison.

Phoenix, Arizona, October 2009: Travis Ricci and Aaron Schmidt, members of the Vinlanders Social Club, a racist skinhead group, allegedly drive by and fire shots at an interracial couple walking along the street. The white female is fatally wounded.

Effort, Pennsylvania, July 2009: Racist skinhead Michael Parrish murders his girlfriend and infant son. Parrish was sentenced to death after a jury found him guilty of two counts of first-degree murder.

Washington, D.C., June 2009: White supremacist and Holocaust denier James Von Brunn opens fire with a rifle inside the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, killing a security guard before being incapacitated by return fire from another guard. Von Brunn died before being able to stand trial.

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, April 4, 2009: White supremacist Richard Poplawski murders three Pittsburgh police officers and engages in a shoot-out with police that wounds a fourth before he is apprehended. He was arrested, charged, and convicted three counts of first-degree murder and sentenced to death.

Brockton, Massachusetts, January 21, 2009: Keith Luke, an unaffiliated white supremacist, kills two Cape Verdean immigrants and rapes and shoots a third. After a brief chase by law enforcement, Luke admitted to police that he planned to kill as many Jews as possible at a local synagogue and then kill himself.

 

Thank You @Whispering That's a long list of rare isolated incidents...

 

And we could add European rare isolated incidents too

 

France

Neo-Nazi members of the French and European Nationalist Party were responsible for a pair of anti-Muslim terror bombings in 1988. Sonacotra hostels in Cagnes-sur-Mer and Cannes were bombed, killing Romanian immigrant George Iordachescu and injuring 16 people, mostly Tunisians.

In an attempt to frame Jewish extremists for the Cagnes-sur-Mer bombing, the terrorists left leaflets bearing Stars of David and the name Masada at the scene, with the message "To destroy Israel, Islam has chosen the sword. For this choice, Islam will perish."[43]

In 2015, in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo shooting, six mosques and a restaurant were attacked in acts deemed as right-wing terrorism by authorities.[44] The acts included grenade throwing, shooting, and use of an improvised explosive device.

Germany

See also: Far-right politics in Germany and Terrorism in Germany

In 1980, a right-wing terrorist attack in Munich, Germany killed the attacker and 14 other people, injuring 215. Fears of an ongoing campaign of major right-wing terrorist attacks did not materialize.[1]

In addition to several bank robberies, the German National Socialist Underground was responsible for the Bosphorus serial murders (2000–2006), the 2004 Cologne bombing and the murder of policewoman Michéle Kiesewetter in 2007. In November 2011, two members of the National Socialist Underground committed suicide after a bank robbery and a third member was arrested some days later.

Right-wing extremist offenses in Germany rose sharply in 2015 and 2016.[45] Figures from the German government tallied 316 violent xenophobic offences in 2014 and 612 such offenses in 2015.[45]

In August 2014, a group of four Germans founded a Munich-based far-right terrorist group, the Oldschool Society (de). The group, which held racist, antisemitic, and anti-Muslim views, eventually attracted 30 members.[46] They stockpiled weapons and explosives and plotted to attack a refugee shelter in Saxony,[46] but the group's leaders were arrested in May 2015 before carrying out the attack.[47] In March 2017 four of the group's leaders were sentenced to prison terms.[46] The perpetrator of the 2016 Munich shooting also had far-right views.

Italy

In the 1970s and 1980s, Italy endured the Years of Lead, a period characterized by frequent terrorist attacks from both the far-left and the far-right. between 1969 and 1982, the nation suffered 8,800 terrorist attacks, in which a total of 351 people were killed and 768 were injured.[48] Right-wing terrorism was dominant in Italy from 1969 to 1974, while left-wing terrorism was dominant in the late 1970s.[48]The Years of Lead are considered to have begun with the Piazza Fontana bombing in Milan in December 1969,[48] perpetrated by Ordine Nuovo, a right-wing neofascist group.[49] Sixteen people were killed, and 90 injured, in the bombing.[49]

Ordine Nuovo continued its campaign of terror until the mid-1980s. In July 1970, the group carried out a bombing on a train going from Rome to Messina, killing six and wounding almost 100. The group also carried out the Piazza della Loggia bombing in 1974, killing eight antifascist activists.[49] Perhaps the most infamous right-wing terrorist attack in post-war Italy is the August 1980 Bologna bombing, in which neo-fascist Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari ("Armed Revolutionary Nuclei"), an Ordine Nuovo offshoot, killed 85 people and injured 200 at the Bologna railroad station.[49][50] Valerio Fioravanti, Francesca Mambro, and two others were convicted of mass murder in the attacks,[50] although both have always denied any connection with the attacks.[51][52]

In December 2011, a far-right gunman targeted Senegalese traders in Florence, killing two and injuring three others before killing himself.[53][54] The perpetrator was associated with CasaPound,[53][54] a neo-fascist organization that perpetrates political violence.[54][55]

Norway

On July 22, 2011, Norwegian right-wing extremist with Nazi[56][57] and fascist[58] sympathies, Anders Behring Breivik, carried out the 2011 Norway attacks, the largest mass killing of people in Norway by a single person during peacetime, excluding use of bombs. First he bombed several government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people and injuring more than 30. After the bombings, he went to Utøyaisland in a fake police uniform and began firing on people attending a political youth camp for the Worker's Youth League (AUF), a left-wing political party, killing 68 and injuring more than 60.

Poland

See also: Far-right politics in Poland

Despite the country being nearly ethnically and religiously homogenous, Polish far-right targets, via propaganda or physical violence, religious and ethnic minorities such as Jews, Romani people, people with darker complexion or Middle Eastern appearance. In 1991, an anti-Romani pogrom broke out in Mława. During the UEFA Euro 2012, Polish hooligans targeted random Russian football supporters. There have been reports of hate crimes targeting Muslim minority in Poland. Far-right and right-wing populistpolitical parties and organizations fuel fear and hatred towards Islam and Muslims.[59] Hate crimes such as arson and physical violence have occurred in Poland (despite having a Muslim population of only 0.1%, that is 30,000 out of 38 million).[60][61] In 2016, police arrested a man who they say tried to burn down a mosque in Gdansk.[44] The man belonged to the neo-nazi group called Blood & Honour.

Sweden

Both the 2009–10 Malmö shootings and the Trollhättan school attack were conducted by right-wing terrorists along with a refugee centre bombing in 2017. A notable serial killer motivated by far-right motives is John Ausonius.[62]

United Kingdom

In April 1999, David Copeland, a neo-Nazi, planted a series of nail bombs over 13 days, causing explosions in Brixton, Brick Lane (in east London), and Soho (in central London). His attacks, which were aimed at London's black, Bangladeshi and gaycommunities, resulted in three dead and more than 100 injured.[63] Copeland was a former member of two far right political groups, the British National Party (BNP) and the National Socialist Movement. Copeland told police, "My aim was political. It was to cause a racial war in this country. There'd be a backlash from the ethnic minorities, then all the white people will go out and vote BNP."[64]

In July 2007, Robert Cottage, a former BNP member, was convicted for possessing explosive chemicals in his home – described by police at the time of his arrest as the largest amount of chemical explosive of its type ever found in that country.[65] In June 2008, Martyn Gilleard, a British Nazi sympathizer, was jailed after police found nail bombs, bullets, swords, axes and knives in his flat.[66] Also in 2008, Nathan Worrell was found guilty of possession of material for terrorist purposes and racially aggravated harassment. He was described by anti-terror police as a "dangerous individual". The court heard that police found books and manuals containing "recipes" to make bombs and detonators using household items, such as weedkiller, at Worrell's flat.[67] In July 2009, Neil Lewington was planning on waging a terror campaign using weapons made from tennis balls and weedkiller against those he classified as "non British".[68]

In 2012, the British Home Affairs Committee warned of the threat of far right terrorism in the UK, claiming it had heard "persuasive evidence" about the potential danger and cited the growth of similar threats across Europe.[69]

Members of Combat 18 (C18), a neo-Naziorganisation based on the concept of "leaderless resistance", have been suspected in numerous deaths of immigrants, non-whites and other C18 members.[70] Between 1998 and 2000, dozens of members were arrested.[71][72] A group calling itself the Racial Volunteer Force split from C18 in 2002, retaining close links to its parent organization.[73]Some journalists believed that the White Wolveswere a C18 splinter group, alleging that the group had been set up by Del O'Connor, the former second-in-command of C18 and member of Skrewdriver Security.[74] C18 attacks on immigrants continued through 2009.[75] Weapons, ammunition and explosives were seized by police in the UK and almost every country in which C18 was active.

In 2016, Jo Cox, the Member of Parliament (MP) for the Batley and Spen constituency was murdered by Thomas Mair, who was motivated by far-right political views and had connections to several far-right organisations in the UK, US, and South Africa.[76]

On 16 December 2016 Home Secretary Amber Rudddesignated the far-right, neo-Nazi National Actiongroup as a terrorist organisation which criminalises membership or support for the organisation.[77]

Northern Ireland 

British far-right activists supplied funds and weaponry to Loyalist terrorist groups in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.[78] Following the Good Friday Agreement some members of Loyalist groups orchestrated racist attacks in Northern Ireland,[79][80][81] including pipe bomb and gun attacks on the homes of immigrants.[82][83][84][85][86] As a result, Northern Ireland has a higher proportion of racist attacks than other parts of the UK,[81][87] and was branded the "race-hate capital of Europe".[88]

 

Racist hate crime is so out of control that even white British people are being attacked

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-racism-hate-crime-figures-rise-white-british-being-attacked-a7360836.html

 

German far-Right extremists teaming up with gangs in America and Europe to plan attacks, intelligence chief warns 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/16/german-far-right-extremists-teaming-up-with-gangs-in-america-and/

 

German police investigating ‘neo-Nazi terror plot’ after bomb branded with swastika discovered

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-neo-nazis-right-wing-extremism-terror-plot-attack-refugees-oldschool-society-explosives-a7527116.html

 

 

And just 5 days ago 

 

 

 

There's more, just doesn't fit... 

 

[Phoenix 17,395]

Ahh the amount of nonsense i have just read in this thread

 

What a waste of time

[StrawberryBlond 15,567]

24 minutes ago, Whispering said:

These are the more serious incidents, ones that result in death or multiple deaths. There are hundreds of other hate crimes that happen and others that are attempted by neo-nazis. Certainly more than "an isolated incident". 

No, I posted a list I found easily with a google search. You can do the same and be more informed in the future on the state of hate crimes dealing with race or religion in the last couple of decades in the US.

You made an innacurate statement quoting a comment, that according to you was off topic. That's on you. 

Of course there are all different crimes going on all across America but if you're being specific about the ones involving neo-Nazis, well, bad as they may be, I still don't think they're frequent enough to truly consider it an epidemic. Most of them are also occuring in the south, so if you live in the north east coast, for example, you'll be much safer. The same cannot of be said, of smaller countries with more contained populations, where you can be at the site of a major terrorist attack in a few hours, when you can travel the length and breadth of the country in little over a day.

All you had to do was provide a links to some sites, you didn't have to quote it all here. That's where you took it too far, in a visual attempt to show the extent of my 'ignorance' in a way that a simple link just couldn't provide.

Doesn't change the fact that it was off-topic and goes against your apparent rules of keeping in your own lane. And well, if I'm criticising you for being TLDR, well, you know it's bad. Unique words are one thing, quoting statistics at length is just too far.

19 minutes ago, lego said:

 

 

Thank You @Whispering That's a long list of rare isolated incidents...

 

And we could add European rare isolated incidents too

 

France

Neo-Nazi members of the French and European Nationalist Party were responsible for a pair of anti-Muslim terror bombings in 1988. Sonacotra hostels in Cagnes-sur-Mer and Cannes were bombed, killing Romanian immigrant George Iordachescu and injuring 16 people, mostly Tunisians.

In an attempt to frame Jewish extremists for the Cagnes-sur-Mer bombing, the terrorists left leaflets bearing Stars of David and the name Masada at the scene, with the message "To destroy Israel, Islam has chosen the sword. For this choice, Islam will perish."[43]

In 2015, in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo shooting, six mosques and a restaurant were attacked in acts deemed as right-wing terrorism by authorities.[44] The acts included grenade throwing, shooting, and use of an improvised explosive device.

Germany

See also: Far-right politics in Germany and Terrorism in Germany

In 1980, a right-wing terrorist attack in Munich, Germany killed the attacker and 14 other people, injuring 215. Fears of an ongoing campaign of major right-wing terrorist attacks did not materialize.[1]

In addition to several bank robberies, the German National Socialist Underground was responsible for the Bosphorus serial murders (2000–2006), the 2004 Cologne bombing and the murder of policewoman Michéle Kiesewetter in 2007. In November 2011, two members of the National Socialist Underground committed suicide after a bank robbery and a third member was arrested some days later.

Right-wing extremist offenses in Germany rose sharply in 2015 and 2016.[45] Figures from the German government tallied 316 violent xenophobic offences in 2014 and 612 such offenses in 2015.[45]

In August 2014, a group of four Germans founded a Munich-based far-right terrorist group, the Oldschool Society (de). The group, which held racist, antisemitic, and anti-Muslim views, eventually attracted 30 members.[46] They stockpiled weapons and explosives and plotted to attack a refugee shelter in Saxony,[46] but the group's leaders were arrested in May 2015 before carrying out the attack.[47] In March 2017 four of the group's leaders were sentenced to prison terms.[46] The perpetrator of the 2016 Munich shooting also had far-right views.

Italy

In the 1970s and 1980s, Italy endured the Years of Lead, a period characterized by frequent terrorist attacks from both the far-left and the far-right. between 1969 and 1982, the nation suffered 8,800 terrorist attacks, in which a total of 351 people were killed and 768 were injured.[48] Right-wing terrorism was dominant in Italy from 1969 to 1974, while left-wing terrorism was dominant in the late 1970s.[48]The Years of Lead are considered to have begun with the Piazza Fontana bombing in Milan in December 1969,[48] perpetrated by Ordine Nuovo, a right-wing neofascist group.[49] Sixteen people were killed, and 90 injured, in the bombing.[49]

Ordine Nuovo continued its campaign of terror until the mid-1980s. In July 1970, the group carried out a bombing on a train going from Rome to Messina, killing six and wounding almost 100. The group also carried out the Piazza della Loggia bombing in 1974, killing eight antifascist activists.[49] Perhaps the most infamous right-wing terrorist attack in post-war Italy is the August 1980 Bologna bombing, in which neo-fascist Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari ("Armed Revolutionary Nuclei"), an Ordine Nuovo offshoot, killed 85 people and injured 200 at the Bologna railroad station.[49][50] Valerio Fioravanti, Francesca Mambro, and two others were convicted of mass murder in the attacks,[50] although both have always denied any connection with the attacks.[51][52]

In December 2011, a far-right gunman targeted Senegalese traders in Florence, killing two and injuring three others before killing himself.[53][54] The perpetrator was associated with CasaPound,[53][54] a neo-fascist organization that perpetrates political violence.[54][55]

Norway

On July 22, 2011, Norwegian right-wing extremist with Nazi[56][57] and fascist[58] sympathies, Anders Behring Breivik, carried out the 2011 Norway attacks, the largest mass killing of people in Norway by a single person during peacetime, excluding use of bombs. First he bombed several government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people and injuring more than 30. After the bombings, he went to Utøyaisland in a fake police uniform and began firing on people attending a political youth camp for the Worker's Youth League (AUF), a left-wing political party, killing 68 and injuring more than 60.

Poland

See also: Far-right politics in Poland

Despite the country being nearly ethnically and religiously homogenous, Polish far-right targets, via propaganda or physical violence, religious and ethnic minorities such as Jews, Romani people, people with darker complexion or Middle Eastern appearance. In 1991, an anti-Romani pogrom broke out in Mława. During the UEFA Euro 2012, Polish hooligans targeted random Russian football supporters. There have been reports of hate crimes targeting Muslim minority in Poland. Far-right and right-wing populistpolitical parties and organizations fuel fear and hatred towards Islam and Muslims.[59] Hate crimes such as arson and physical violence have occurred in Poland (despite having a Muslim population of only 0.1%, that is 30,000 out of 38 million).[60][61] In 2016, police arrested a man who they say tried to burn down a mosque in Gdansk.[44] The man belonged to the neo-nazi group called Blood & Honour.

Sweden

Both the 2009–10 Malmö shootings and the Trollhättan school attack were conducted by right-wing terrorists along with a refugee centre bombing in 2017. A notable serial killer motivated by far-right motives is John Ausonius.[62]

United Kingdom

In April 1999, David Copeland, a neo-Nazi, planted a series of nail bombs over 13 days, causing explosions in Brixton, Brick Lane (in east London), and Soho (in central London). His attacks, which were aimed at London's black, Bangladeshi and gaycommunities, resulted in three dead and more than 100 injured.[63] Copeland was a former member of two far right political groups, the British National Party (BNP) and the National Socialist Movement. Copeland told police, "My aim was political. It was to cause a racial war in this country. There'd be a backlash from the ethnic minorities, then all the white people will go out and vote BNP."[64]

In July 2007, Robert Cottage, a former BNP member, was convicted for possessing explosive chemicals in his home – described by police at the time of his arrest as the largest amount of chemical explosive of its type ever found in that country.[65] In June 2008, Martyn Gilleard, a British Nazi sympathizer, was jailed after police found nail bombs, bullets, swords, axes and knives in his flat.[66] Also in 2008, Nathan Worrell was found guilty of possession of material for terrorist purposes and racially aggravated harassment. He was described by anti-terror police as a "dangerous individual". The court heard that police found books and manuals containing "recipes" to make bombs and detonators using household items, such as weedkiller, at Worrell's flat.[67] In July 2009, Neil Lewington was planning on waging a terror campaign using weapons made from tennis balls and weedkiller against those he classified as "non British".[68]

In 2012, the British Home Affairs Committee warned of the threat of far right terrorism in the UK, claiming it had heard "persuasive evidence" about the potential danger and cited the growth of similar threats across Europe.[69]

Members of Combat 18 (C18), a neo-Naziorganisation based on the concept of "leaderless resistance", have been suspected in numerous deaths of immigrants, non-whites and other C18 members.[70] Between 1998 and 2000, dozens of members were arrested.[71][72] A group calling itself the Racial Volunteer Force split from C18 in 2002, retaining close links to its parent organization.[73]Some journalists believed that the White Wolveswere a C18 splinter group, alleging that the group had been set up by Del O'Connor, the former second-in-command of C18 and member of Skrewdriver Security.[74] C18 attacks on immigrants continued through 2009.[75] Weapons, ammunition and explosives were seized by police in the UK and almost every country in which C18 was active.

In 2016, Jo Cox, the Member of Parliament (MP) for the Batley and Spen constituency was murdered by Thomas Mair, who was motivated by far-right political views and had connections to several far-right organisations in the UK, US, and South Africa.[76]

On 16 December 2016 Home Secretary Amber Rudddesignated the far-right, neo-Nazi National Actiongroup as a terrorist organisation which criminalises membership or support for the organisation.[77]

Northern Ireland 

British far-right activists supplied funds and weaponry to Loyalist terrorist groups in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.[78] Following the Good Friday Agreement some members of Loyalist groups orchestrated racist attacks in Northern Ireland,[79][80][81] including pipe bomb and gun attacks on the homes of immigrants.[82][83][84][85][86] As a result, Northern Ireland has a higher proportion of racist attacks than other parts of the UK,[81][87] and was branded the "race-hate capital of Europe".[88]

 

Racist hate crime is so out of control that even white British people are being attacked

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-racism-hate-crime-figures-rise-white-british-being-attacked-a7360836.html

 

German far-Right extremists teaming up with gangs in America and Europe to plan attacks, intelligence chief warns 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/16/german-far-right-extremists-teaming-up-with-gangs-in-america-and/

 

German police investigating ‘neo-Nazi terror plot’ after bomb branded with swastika discovered

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-neo-nazis-right-wing-extremism-terror-plot-attack-refugees-oldschool-society-explosives-a7527116.html

 

 

And just 5 days ago 

 

 

 

There's more, just doesn't fit... 

 

I find it very telling that you haven't actually replied to anything I said in my very extensive post that I put so much effort into re-creating from scratch post-deletion the previous day. The biggest faux pas one can make on this site, in my eyes. But no matter...

Most of the incidents you list happened long ago. Whispering at least was more recent, but you were pulling out stuff from the 90's and earlier. For some countries, the last incident was in 2011. Nowhere near recent enough. The comments on the final article you had a link to (from Butterfly Rebellion) also coughed up some very interesting words about the fact that other news outlets did report on this but it wasn't quick enough for the Indy to start making accusations of ignoring it and pointing out the fact that they allowed comments for this article but not an article about Muslims committing crimes. Don't get me wrong, far right racist groups need to be given attention and dealt with so we can determine how big a threat they really are. But in a world where most white people are afraid to say anything for fear it'll suddenly be racist and how being racist won't exactly guarantee you a party invite, I can conclude that its following is small and therefore, much easier to deal with. UKIP is done and BNP's following has always been hilariously low and our people actively support calling out these politicians by name so people can leave dog excrement on their doorstep. An opposition movement to the recent rise of Islamist attacks is unacceptable but inevitable. I'm actually surprised it took so long for a true terror attack against Islam to be conducted here when that guy ploughed his car into the mosque entrance (who, for the record, I never suspected of being a sufferer of 'mental problems' - as I said before, it's easy to differentiate religious motivation from other motivation. Extremist right wing reaction always seems a bit slower, whereas within mere days of the Brexit result, there was already an extremist Muslim attack on Westminster Bridge. It's the speed of these Islamist attacks after something happens to annoy them that is a huge cause for concern now. But let's be clear - I don't want any alt groups to rise to power. I want every terrorist, of any race, religion and colour to be dealt with. I just want my country safe from any threat.

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1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Of course there are all different crimes going on all across America but if you're being specific about the ones involving neo-Nazis, well, bad as they may be, I still don't think they're frequent enough to truly consider it an epidemic. Most of them are also occuring in the south, so if you live in the north east coast, for example, you'll be much safer. The same cannot of be said, of smaller countries with more contained populations, where you can be at the site of a major terrorist attack in a few hours, when you can travel the length and breadth of the country in little over a day.

All you had to do was provide a links to some sites, you didn't have to quote it all here. That's where you took it too far, in a visual attempt to show the extent of my 'ignorance' in a way that a simple link just couldn't provide.

Doesn't change the fact that it was off-topic and goes against your apparent rules of keeping in your own lane. And well, if I'm criticising you for being TLDR, well, you know it's bad. Unique words are one thing, quoting statistics at length is just too far.

 

It's a common enough occurrence and a big enough worry for intelligence agencies to be extremely concerned. I think they know better than you. 

No, that wouldn't have worked...because you are trying to discount the list I did provide. You are stuck now, trying to pull anything and everything out to try to get around the fact that your statement was inaccurate.

You replied to an off topic remark with an off-topic, innacurate paragraph. Too far, huh? Lolol Now you know how others feel when they see your wall of words. Read them or skip them....doesn't matter to me. They are presented in an organized, easy to read, chronological manner...if you would actually like to learn something about hate crimes by white supremacist types in the US. 

[lego 44,165]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I find it very telling that you haven't actually replied to anything I said in my very extensive post

 

If you must know, I put you on ignore after I found it's useless to talk to someone who got offended by my first reply and keeps on ignoring the facts.

 

When someone is on ignore list, I don't receive notifications when that person quotes or reacts to my post, it's nothing personal.

It also helps in cases when some people follow you around and try to get your attention by "excuse me no's" on every single thing you post, idk if you ever experienced that. 

 

 

Unfortunately I can see your comments in other people's quotes. I already told you what was my last reply to you, I even disabled my private messages, because I don't want to talk to you about this subject anymore anywhere, it gives me headache honestly. 

All I see is ignoring the facts and receipts, everything is "long ago", "before my birth", "not frequent enough", "surprised it didn't happen sooner", it did but you didn't pay attention.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-24614280

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3914522/paris-mosque-attack-hero-motorists/

 

And the fact you make excuses for sensationalist right wing tabloids and you quote comments by right wing people, cause you seem to agree with them in some things, is also very telling.

 

I have to add; already refuted you here

 

That was enough of my time.

You didn't even present any facts, just opinions and comments like "you can't deny they do more crimes...", "this is really rare...", "but have you really heard of that many cases...", "religion that's not even native to my country", "you should understand why some people tell them to go back to their countries", "they need to protest more with 'not in my name' I haven't seen enough"... etc

I think you shouldn't flatter yourself, no one is intimidated by your long posts and intelligence, you just have more time to go on in circles and keep on dismissing everything that's presented to you because your mind is made up. Also not everyone cares enough to have last word. 

 

If it makes you feel better, then sure everyone who doesn't bother to reply to you or continue discussion with you is very frightened and crying in the corner. Believe that.

 

 

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Now if you can stop quoting me, cause even if I see your reply, I won't respond. Maybe one day you'll get lots of real life experiences with people of different races and ethnicities,  so perhaps you won't let right wing media shape your views so much to the point of downplaying and dismissing facts.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Whispering said:

It's a common enough occurrence and a big enough worry for intelligence agencies to be extremely concerned. I think they know better than you. 

No, that wouldn't have worked...because you are trying to discount the list I did provide. You are stuck now, trying to pull anything and everything out to try to get around the fact that your statement was inaccurate.

You replied to an off topic remark with an off-topic, innacurate paragraph. Too far, huh? Lolol Now you know how others feel when they see your wall of words. Read them or skip them....doesn't matter to me. They are presented in an organized, easy to read, chronological manner...if you would actually like to learn something about hate crimes by white supremacist types in the US. 

Didn't say it's not a cause for concern, of course of it is. But I daresay that citing such groups as taking over is the first step to that actually happening. It's the same scare mongering that the right wing is accused of, just in reverse. Neo Nazis and KKK members already think every white person thinks like them or can easily be converted to the cause. If we start saying that their cause is running rampant throughout America, it's really going to inflate their already delusional ego. I actually read a very interesting idea about the Charlottesville protests - it said that perhaps, if the people had just let them protest, not dignifying their hatred with a response, perhaps they would have left annoyed that we didn't give them the attention that they wanted. But instead, counter protesters showed up, the whole thing went nasty and it only served to showcase the divide they so desperately wanted to illustrate. Indeed, I think we need to give hatred the middle finger but don't actually bring yourself down to these scumbags level and risk getting physically hurt.

I didn't try to deny anything you posted. I just pointed out the flaws with how you went about it. I'm hardly stuck, you've just taken it to somewhere that I had no intention of going.

I just can't do anything right in your eyes, can I? You always think you're right. I never try to present my opinions as fact, you do. Your way of talking to others is appalling. Talking at length isn't a flaw, it's a good trait to have. It shows you know what you're talking about and you don't find intelligence intimidating. And I always present my opinions in an organised, easy to read, chronological manner as well, but you don't seem to like that. And I do learn stuff, you just presume I know nothing and insult my intelligence no end. Ironic, when you and lego aren't the least bit interested in following up anything I claimed in my big long post a while back. You two could do with actually researching those things to see if they hold any weight.

2 minutes ago, lego said:

 

If you must know, I put you on ignore after I found it's useless to talk to someone who got offended by my first reply and keeps on ignoring the facts. Unfortunately I can see your comments in other people's quotes. I already told you what was my last reply to you, I even disabled my private messages, because I don't want to talk to you about this subject anymore anywhere, it gives me headache honestly. 

All I see is ignoring the facts and receipts, everything is "long ago", "before my birth", "not frequent enough", "surprised it didn't happen sooner", it did but you didn't pay attention.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-24614280

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3914522/paris-mosque-attack-hero-motorists/

 

And the fact you make excuses for sensationalist right wing tabloids and you quote comments by right wing people, cause you seem to agree with them in some things, is also very telling.

 

Now if you can stop quoting me, cause even if I see your reply, I won't respond. Maybe one day you'll get lots of real life experiences with people of different races and ethnicities,  so perhaps you won't let right wing media shape your views so much to the point of downplaying and dismissing facts.

Ah, right, nice to know my precious time was wasted last night, then. At least I didn't get the knockback by trying to message you, then, that would have really made my head explode. I ignore the facts? You've ignored my facts. You haven't even attempted to properly engage with me or rebut anything I said. Probably because some of it showed you have the wrong idea about me. Gives you a headache? The feeling is very mutual.

Again, people have made the same responses and criticisms that I did when I've posted facts so I just see it as fair's fair.

I review all sorts of media, seeing as my belief system is very eclectic. I call myself a liberal as that's where the majority of my beliefs lie but I also possess some that people might regard as conservative (though I think they're very neutral) and some centrist stuff as well. I respond to everything in life as a case by case basis, on logic and reason. I believe anyone can make a good point and everyone deserves to be listened to. I'm very disappointed that most people operate under "I only follow media and viewpoints in line with my political affiliation and those I agree with." You'll never expand your mind that way.

And that's a very nasty way to respond to someone who's taken their time to speak to you. I haven't said anything to you so bad that it would prompt you to ignore me. But again, maybe you're intimidated by my intelligence and confidence, so I won't get too offended. No one's afraid of me in real life and yet you are! If you were so sure you were right, you'd blast all my points to bits, one by one, but you don't even want to attempt it, so what does that tell me? Oh, trust me, I'm more than happy to have experiences with different races and ethnicities and I have. They're so much nicer than my own race are to me, truth be told! But that has no correlation to the news stories that fall into my lap that perhaps reveal truths certain people want to stay hidden. It's equally bad on both sides - there's a lot of stories that come out that conservatives don't want to hear, so they stifle them and a lot of stories that liberals don't want to hear, so they stifle them. I'm a liberal who doesn't care about political affiliation affecting my news, I just want the truth. I want to hear about all news, good or bad. If you just want to limit yourself to what you believe, well, enjoy your limited take on reality. Facts are facts and I take them all into account, not just the ones that are convenient to my belief system.

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3 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Didn't say it's not a cause for concern, of course of it is. But I daresay that citing such groups as taking over is the first step to that actually happening. It's the same scare mongering that the right wing is accused of, just in reverse. Neo Nazis and KKK members already think every white person thinks like them or can easily be converted to the cause. If we start saying that their cause is running rampant throughout America, it's really going to inflate their already delusional ego. I actually read a very interesting idea about the Charlottesville protests - it said that perhaps, if the people had just let them protest, not dignifying their hatred with a response, perhaps they would have left annoyed that we didn't give them the attention that they wanted. But instead, counter protesters showed up, the whole thing went nasty and it only served to showcase the divide they so desperately wanted to illustrate. Indeed, I think we need to give hatred the middle finger but don't actually bring yourself down to these scumbags level and risk getting physically hurt.

I didn't try to deny anything you posted. I just pointed out the flaws with how you went about it. I'm hardly stuck, you've just taken it to somewhere that I had no intention of going.

I just can't do anything right in your eyes, can I? You always think you're right. I never try to present my opinions as fact, you do. Your way of talking to others is appalling. Talking at length isn't a flaw, it's a good trait to have. It shows you know what you're talking about and you don't find intelligence intimidating. And I always present my opinions in an organised, easy to read, chronological manner as well, but you don't seem to like that. And I do learn stuff, you just presume I know nothing and insult my intelligence no end. Ironic, when you and lego aren't the least bit interested in following up anything I claimed in my big long post a while back. You two could do with actually researching those things to see if they hold any weight.

 

Then listing terrorism in Europe gives voice and attention to those that are wanting just that. By giving it so much importance, you are making it important. You are giving them exactly what they want. 

The counter protests were legal and important, as there needs to be universal, bi-partisan opposition to this particular brand of hate. 

No, it actually shows you are just wordy. 

BTW, the states with the highest numbers of hate crime were Ohio, Michigan, Washington, Arizona, New York, and California. Last time I checked those states weren't in the south.  

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6 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Then listing terrorism in Europe gives voice and attention to those that are wanting just that. By giving it so much importance, you are making it important. You are giving them exactly what they want. 

The counter protests were legal and important, as there needs to be universal, bi-partisan opposition to this particular brand of hate. 

No, it actually shows you are just wordy. 

BTW, the states with the highest numbers of hate crime were Ohio, Michigan, Washington, Arizona, New York, and California. Last time I checked those states weren't in the south.  

I think you missed the point of what I said. I'm talking about still reporting on it but just letting them march in silence and emptiness. That would have stopped violence breaking out. Anyway, it's a completely different case. A group of protesters walking up the street is different to a suicide bomber blowing up an arena. There's some things that need to get reported no matter what, in order to be sure its citizens are aware. There's nothing wrong with talking about terrorism in and of itself but I've always made it clear that these people are not to cowed to. We responded with the British attitude of keep calm and carry on. Sometimes, in America, too much panic and scaremongering goes on. Counter protests are best done after the event, make your own time for it. Doing it at the same time is a recipe for disaster. You can still make your voice heard in other ways than protesting, also. Not everyone is a natural protester, after all.

Oh, right, wordy. Childish insult, to say the least. I think you're smart enough to deal with words.

Those areas you mentioned have some of the highest populations in the country, especially NY and California. Naturally, the more people there are, the more problems likely to occur. Safety is one of the reason why people move out of big cities into rural areas, after all. Southern states can have lots of middle-of-nowhere areas and rural areas.

[FunBuns 596]

On the first hand

Too common in places you'll never see any superstar tweet about. There are things the world as a whole doesn't know.

You see... 2017 is the number you all know. Not all of us evolve the same, grow the same and act the same.

Some groups naturally believe what their leader (with interests) says to them is always true.

They believe that instead of serving the leader, there's someone bigger being served.

Often times, that someone bigger does not want you to feel bad about things that are perfectly fine.

I think we have to spread love as much as possible but looking at how things are, this will never be 100% all over the world.

 

On the other hand

BURQA.

I'm not a wandering slave, I am a woman of choice
My veil is protection for the gorgeousness of my face
You ought to pity me cause there's always one man to love
But in the bedroom, the size of him's more than enough

Do you wanna see me naked?
Do you wanna peek underneath the cover?
Do you wanna see the girl who lives behind the burqa?

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22 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I think you missed the point of what I said. I'm talking about still reporting on it but just letting them march in silence and emptiness. That would have stopped violence breaking out. Anyway, it's a completely different case. A group of protesters walking up the street is different to a suicide bomber blowing up an arena. There's some things that need to get reported no matter what, in order to be sure its citizens are aware. There's nothing wrong with talking about terrorism in and of itself but I've always made it clear that these people are not to cowed to. We responded with the British attitude of keep calm and carry on. Sometimes, in America, too much panic and scaremongering goes on. Counter protests are best done after the event, make your own time for it. Doing it at the same time is a recipe for disaster. You can still make your voice heard in other ways than protesting, also. Not everyone is a natural protester, after all.

Oh, right, wordy. Childish insult, to say the least. I think you're smart enough to deal with words.

Those areas you mentioned have some of the highest populations in the country, especially NY and California. Naturally, the more people there are, the more problems likely to occur. Safety is one of the reason why people move out of big cities into rural areas, after all. Southern states can have lots of middle-of-nowhere areas and rural areas.

Nope, didn't miss the point.

That still gives them attention, which is what they wanted. 

What would have stopped violence is if that idiot hadn't gotten into his car and plowed into human beings at a high speed. The person who caused the violence was the one who was the perpetrator of the crime, not the victims. 

This country's biggest steps forward were pushed by protests and counter protests. As always, there are many avenues to bring about change, with marching being one of them. 

New York and Washington have plenty of rural areas, too, ya know. People move to cities for jobs and opportunities. If they want safety, they move to the suburbs. Everyone has a car. Southern states are not more rural than the mid-west, North or West. Practically every state has rural and urban areas. 

Also, 24 out of the 35 crimes listed in my OP were committed OUTSIDE of the Southern states.  Most of the crimes committed by white supremacists/neo nazis are not in the Southern states.