Woman with Burqa beats up woman because she sells Bikinis in Berlin

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12 minutes ago, Melech said:

How am I being aggressive? Because I don't agree with sexist and homophobic views?  

I don't need to tolerate and respect these kind of views. He is the one being agressive with his views. 

Because ur not really trying hard to reason... ur just going dead against

 

thats not a discussion. Thats more like an argument

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Just now, Economy said:

Because ur not really trying hard to reason... ur just going dead against

 

thats not a discussion. Thats more like an argument

People defending homophobes 

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12 minutes ago, Economy said:

Ive been reading since the beggining and u are being very agressive towards her because u disagree

I dont agree with the covering either but u have to be more respectful about how u discuss it

Thank you, finally someone said it.

 

11 minutes ago, Melech said:

How am I being aggressive? Because I don't agree with sexist and homophobic views?  

I don't need to tolerate and respect these kind of views. He is the one being agressive with his views. 

He's not at all being aggressive with his views. 

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, JourneyToAvalon said:

Thank you, finally someone said it.

 

He's not at all being aggressive with his views. 

He is being discriminatory. 

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Yikes hunny.

This needs to move into the 21st century.

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2 minutes ago, Melech said:

People defending homophobes 

Then discuss phylosophically why u dont think thats the way it should be with reasons

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4 minutes ago, Economy said:

Then discuss phylosophically why u dont think thats the way it should be with reasons

iogkisdfjgliusdfj yeah you can truly discuss with homophobes 

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I find it very strange that you are on a Gaga fansite, when Gaga is a bisexual woman who co-habits with her boyfriends, has had sex outside of marriage, sings about sex, swears, wears revealing clothes and supports LGBT rights. If you truly support your Muslim religion, you wouldn't support her. Neither would you support homosexuality but disapprove of it when it comes to gay marriage. You're entitled to your beliefs but they are all over the place. I don't understand why someone would call themselves a follower of a certain religion but then do things that their religion would not approve of. I believe in God and I pray but wouldn't go as far as calling myself a Christian because I don't go to church or read the Bible and I have certain beliefs that Christianity doesn't support. So, I simply call myself a believer in God, I'm no more or less than that. So, I'm confused when someone identified themselves as a follower of a religion but doesn't does very little that would give that impression. As someone who has a degree in religious studies, including Islam, I think your beliefs are very confused and you perhaps need to study your religion a bit better to fully understand what you're identifying as. And remember that you can't just follow the nice parts and discard the troublesome parts.

55 minutes ago, JourneyToAvalon said:

OP, I admire and appreciate that you're trying to clear misconceptions about Islam but trust me when I say this.. don't waste your breath. Some people are really hellbent on hating it and constantly spread negativity regarding it as an attempt to discolor all Muslims. And tbh, GGD isn't the best place in general especially for serious topics like this. (because no one takes them seriously)

Those who are meant to understand will eventually understand, those who won't will never get it despite hours of explanation. 

But what you can do is make threads with examples of the nicer things in Islam that maybe people don't know about.  Just an idea.

True, some people are hellbent on hating Islam but some people, like myself, who actually have a degree in this religion and multiple others, understand the downsides of any religion and am critical of some of the practices and beliefs in modern society. Agreed, GGD can be very hard to talk about serious topics but I'm always someone who you can trust to be serious and talk intellectually.

"Those who are are meant to understand will eventually understand" is quite a sinister thing to say. This would be regarded as such if most other people said it. Why do you think it's acceptable to force acceptance of any religion and culture onto a society that simply doesn't believe in it? Would you accept this if it were the other way around? Even sharia law states that you must respect the laws of the land you are in. So, what do you think of Muslim immigrants who are coming into Europe and flouting their laws? This is why so many people have problems with the religion. It's hard to respect a group of people who perform such hypocrisy.

Yes, there are nicer things about Islam but religion isn't about picking and choosing the nice things and ignoring the bad things. That's why I never went full-force into Christianity because I found it was too strict and didn't suit my lifestyle and I didn't want to be a hypocrite who called themselves Christian despite never setting foot in a church unless it's for a christening or a wedding.

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1 minute ago, Melech said:

He is being discriminatory. 

first of all, i was just trying to give my thoughts and opinions about the thread you posted. i just trying to let people know what is it like from my standpoint as a muslim, responding to that kind of situation. if you dont agree with it, it's fine. you have the right to disagree.

about the homosexual thing, you asked about it and i gave you my POV. i gave you the most straight forward answer and you straight up calling me homophobe without a proper reasoning.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, SFDMQ said:

first of all, i was just trying to give my thoughts and opinions about the thread you posted. i just trying to let people know what is it like from my standpoint as a muslim, responding to that kind of situation. if you dont agree with it, it's fine. you have the right to disagree.

about the homosexual thing, you asked about it and i gave you my POV. i gave you the most straight forward answer and you straight up calling me homophobe without a proper reasoning.

You are against same rights and that is homophobic. It doesn't need more reasoning. 

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2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I find it very strange that you are on a Gaga fansite, when Gaga is a bisexual woman who co-habits with her boyfriends, has had sex outside of marriage, sings about sex, swears, wears revealing clothes and supports LGBT rights. If you truly support your Muslim religion, you wouldn't support her. Neither would you support homosexuality but disapprove of it when it comes to gay marriage. You're entitled to your beliefs but they are all over the place. I don't understand why someone would call themselves a follower of a certain religion but then do things that their religion would not approve of. I believe in God and I pray but wouldn't go as far as calling myself a Christian because I don't go to church or read the Bible and I have certain beliefs that Christianity doesn't support. So, I simply call myself a believer in God, I'm no more or less than that. So, I'm confused when someone identified themselves as a follower of a religion but doesn't does very little that would give that impression. As someone who has a degree in religious studies, including Islam, I think your beliefs are very confused and you perhaps need to study your religion a bit better to fully understand what you're identifying as. And remember that you can't just follow the nice parts and discard the troublesome parts.

True, some people are hellbent on hating Islam but some people, like myself, who actually have a degree in this religion and multiple others, understand the downsides of any religion and am critical of some of the practices and beliefs in modern society. Agreed, GGD can be very hard to talk about serious topics but I'm always someone who you can trust to be serious and talk intellectually.

"Those who are are meant to understand will eventually understand" is quite a sinister thing to say. This would be regarded as such if most other people said it. Why do you think it's acceptable to force acceptance of any religion and culture onto a society that simply doesn't believe in it? Would you accept this if it were the other way around? Even sharia law states that you must respect the laws of the land you are in. So, what do you think of Muslim immigrants who are coming into Europe and flouting their laws? This is why so many people have problems with the religion. It's hard to respect a group of people who perform such hypocrisy.

Yes, there are nicer things about Islam but religion isn't about picking and choosing the nice things and ignoring the bad things. That's why I never went full-force into Christianity because I found it was too strict and didn't suit my lifestyle and I didn't want to be a hypocrite who called themselves Christian despite never setting foot in a church unless it's for a christening or a wedding.

Ive never met anyone i approve of every single thing they do doesnt mean i dont talk to them

 

Thats like a vegan refusing to talk to people who eat meat tbh

 

Theres a difference between homophobia or having some beliefs.

 

I know conservative people personally who still like Lady Gaga or Ellen de Generes for example despite not approving of specific things in their lives

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Just now, Melech said:

You are against same rights and that is homophobic. It doesn't need more reasoning. 

Thats not what homophobic means.

 

ppl use the word far too loosely these days

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1 minute ago, Economy said:

Thats not what homophobic means.

 

ppl use the word far too loosely these days

If you restricts the rights of homosexuals, it is homophobic 

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3 minutes ago, Economy said:

Thats not what homophobic means.

 

ppl use the word far too loosely these days

yeah, not allowing two people who love each other to marry just because they're same sex isn't homophobic. totally.      not.

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1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

True, some people are hellbent on hating Islam but some people, like myself, who actually have a degree in this religion and multiple others, understand the downsides of any religion and am critical of some of the practices and beliefs in modern society. Agreed, GGD can be very hard to talk about serious topics but I'm always someone who you can trust to be serious and talk intellectually.

Thank you, I'm glad.  

 

1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

"Those who are are meant to understand will eventually understand" is quite a sinister thing to say. This would be regarded as such if most other people said it. Why do you think it's acceptable to force acceptance of any religion and culture onto a society that simply doesn't believe in it? Would you accept this if it were the other way around? Even sharia law states that you must respect the laws of the land you are in. So, what do you think of Muslim immigrants who are coming into Europe and flouting their laws? This is why so many people have problems with the religion. It's hard to respect a group of people who perform such hypocrisy.

I'm afraid you misunderstood completely. "Those who are are meant to understand will eventually understand" which means we cannot and should not force religion on anyone. Those who are destined to understand will understand with or without our help.

 

1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yes, there are nicer things about Islam but religion isn't about picking and choosing the nice things and ignoring the bad things. That's why I never went full-force into Christianity because I found it was too strict and didn't suit my lifestyle and I didn't want to be a hypocrite who called themselves Christian despite never setting foot in a church unless it's for a christening or a wedding.

 So I told him to choose the nice things and ignore the bad ones? That's what I did? You misunderstood me again and I'm sorry but I won't keep explaining myself.

But that is in no way what I meant nor was it my intention. 

I apologize if I'm being rude. Peace.