TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Perfect Illusion is 70% about Tayalor 30% about fans 0% about Instagram Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Just now, TimisaMonster said: Perfect Illusion is 70% about Tayalor 30% about fans 0% about Instagram I'd say more 70% fans and 30% Taylor... Where is the love/heartbroken thematic in the MV? I mean if it was mostly about Taylor the MV wouldn't have been the one we have now. It would have been more like MR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Control 2,181 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Disliking what an artist makes isn't "hate". Just because you're a fan of a certain singer or any type of artist doesn't mean you owe them to worship everything they create. Being a public figure is hard and it puts you under the magnifying glass of the world and it subjects you to criticism and feedback of all kinds, sometimes it's supportive, sometimes it's destructive and harsh, sometimes it's constructive. It could be anything and fans aren't fake if they don't support everything she creates. Fans too have their own tastes, their own wants and needs, their own preferred genres and styles, so they don't owe her to love everything she creates and there's a huge difference between disliking or feeling uninterested in some material and being a hateful and an aggressive person. If Lady Gaga thinks we're being fake just because we're critical of her latest works then she's wrong to assume that and should instead try to find out why fans are feeling that way and if she has any respect for them or any interest in gaining their attention and support, she'd focus on making stuff in the quality and style that made them admire her in the first place. If she doesn't care, then it shouldn't bother her anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchey 893 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I've thought this for quite a while. I hope it's addressed in the doc. It makes me love the song that much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: I'd say more 70% fans and 30% Taylor... Where is the love/heartbroken thematic in the MV? I mean if it was mostly about Taylor the MV wouldn't have been the one we have now. It would have been more like MR Really? Gaga didn't even bring Taylor up in the promo interviews for the song cuz she REALLY didn't want to discuss the breakup... Gaga videos are mostly completely separate from the actual message of the song. She just likes to give good visuals. Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Just now, TimisaMonster said: Really? Gaga didn't even bring Taylor up in the promo interviews for the song cuz she REALLY didn't want to discuss the breakup... Gaga videos are mostly completely separate from the actual message of the song. She just likes to give good visuals. I don't know, I'm torn because we can't know and I won't say nor even think that I'm right because we just can't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, NIGHTCRAWLER said: I don't know, I'm torn because we can't know and I won't say nor even think that I'm right because we just can't know Sometimes it's very plain and Gaga's behavior around the promo, the shortened tour version, etc show me more than anything it's about Taylor and she didn't want to have to explain or remember her painful experience... Fans could very well be a subliminal message but not the cream that rises to the top in my eyes...Taylor was the motivation behind the song...not really the fans Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,743 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Everyone going "you don't have to kiss the ground she walks on!!" Are missing the point. Nobody said you can't dislike a song. She clearly hints at the fans who do NOTHING but whine, cry, and shade anything she does because they have nothing better to do. if you're going "I loved this BUT" or "I don't hate this song there's a difference" or whatever excuse y'all come up with then you're probably part of the problem. Some of you are so desperate to turn your boring ass drags and complaints on Gaga to make her look like the bad guy, it's actually gross. Lol emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About Us 1,499 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Evan Peters said: Everyone going "you don't have to kiss the ground she walks on!!" Are missing the point. Nobody said you can't dislike a song. She clearly hints at the fans who do NOTHING but whine, cry, and shade anything she does because they have nothing better to do. if you're going "I loved this BUT" or "I don't hate this song there's a difference" or whatever excuse y'all come up with then you're probably part of the problem. Some of you are so desperate to turn your boring ass drags and complaints on Gaga to make her look like the bad guy, it's actually gross. Lol THIS. She's not mad that some fans don't like the song. She's upset at the "fans" who constantly degrade, shade and humiliate her over every ****ing thing she does. Promise I'll always be there. Promise I'll be the cure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,865 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, ryanripley said: thanks for the spoiler warning  Don't worry, it isn't like they're incredibly reputable anyway so they could still be wrong and just a reach that other fans have already guessed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,865 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 If we're going to make assumptions based on the alleged spoilers from the doc, than this fits the narrative that she woke up one day and realized her Hollywood life with Taylor wasn't the one she wanted. I saw this as a grand metaphor for her life rn as she constantly has revelations about her fame and how it isn't what she dreamed of it being like. It actually thematically makes a ton of sense as the Joanne lead for her mindset as Joanne is about going back to yourself. She realized that the life she was leading was not was she ultimately wanted--it was a perfect illusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergil 2,296 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, DawnNutella said: It's probably true. Some of her "fans" are ass***** and do nothing but whine, bitch and want more. Or some just bully the ones who don't like everything Gaga does. And viceversa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 we been knew another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, malazam said: we been knew apparently not everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
just another gay 836 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Ronk said: She certainly might be disappointed that her own fans don't follow her message of unconditional kindness and positivity. Spreading kindness, love, bravery, and positivity is very important to her.  She wouldn't care if some people dislike some of her music. This. I can imagine how frustrated that if she sees how some of her fans behave or just dont care despite that she has spent her whole time to promote acceptance and kindness through her work.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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