Is Gaga disappointed in her fans?

[NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985]

19 minutes ago, come to papa said:

This.

I can imagine how frustrated that if she sees how some of her fans behave or just dont care despite that she has spent her whole time to promote acceptance and kindness through her work.  

of course it must be so hard to see. If she comes on GGD she'll see we're not like that

[NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985]

2 hours ago, Mitchey said:

I've thought this for quite a while. I hope it's addressed in the doc. It makes me love the song that much more. 

same for me, I hope she'll talk about it and it is just better than a casual heartbroken song

[JupiterDrive 2,788]

Wtf saying fans betray you because they don't like your work they said she was aware that people wanted her to make a great pop record but she did her own thing hunny u can't expect ur fans to love everything what you put out and saying they betrayed you because of that is really yeah... Garbage 

Yeah we want too much and she cant satisfy everyone but then again she should know that especially when putting out something you know your fans didn't ask for so I say 50/50 are ****ed up 

[Debithius 5,863]

But she has explained what the song is about though...

[billionreasons 46]

I don't think Gaga would paint the entire fanbase with a broad stroke like that. There very clearly are fans who care very much about the well-being and human side of Gaga. Just this forum alone...there are so many! I can't imagine that love and admiration going unnoticed or being slighted. The real fans...the ones who truly care about the woman behind the popstar (Stefani!)...are the ones she is constantly raving about. I don't think her feelings for them have changed. 

The temporary fans (those wanting to ride the wave of fame) who ditched her after Joanne sensing an ostensible "decline" in her stardom...now I can imagine her feeling upset and betrayed by that. But the entire fanbase...no. 

[NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985]

57 minutes ago, iFameMonzter said:

Wtf saying fans betray you because they don't like your work they said she was aware that people wanted her to make a great pop record but she did her own thing hunny u can't expect ur fans to love everything what you put out and saying they betrayed you because of that is really yeah... Garbage 

Yeah we want too much and she cant satisfy everyone but then again she should know that especially when putting out something you know your fans didn't ask for so I say 50/50 are ****ed up 

yeah she can't satisfy anyone, so she decided to satisfy herself in doing what she likes 

[NIGHTCRAWLER 6,985]

32 minutes ago, billionreasons said:

I don't think Gaga would paint the entire fanbase with a broad stroke like that. There very clearly are fans who care very much about the well-being and human side of Gaga. Just this forum alone...there are so many! I can't imagine that love and admiration going unnoticed or being slighted. The real fans...the ones who truly care about the woman behind the popstar (Stefani!)...are the ones she is constantly raving about. I don't think her feelings for them have changed. 

The temporary fans (those wanting to ride the wave of fame) who ditched her after Joanne sensing an ostensible "decline" in her stardom...now I can imagine her feeling upset and betrayed by that. But the entire fanbase...no. 

so true, I love Stefani and I respect her. She's an human being and not a money machine and after all I like whatver she give sus because this is what she is 

[MonsterPaws 2,730]

I always thought PI was about the fans. Good to know I'm not the only one.

It's kinda obvious but not confirmed so far (probs never will be), but I'm 99% sure Gaga i disappointed by her fans. We kinda failed her when everybody else did (the ARTPOP era and whatnot).

And I think it's a good thing. We're toxic af 

[Letmelivemylife 8,715]

Deep down I think she'll always love her monsters but now it's like "I need room to breathe". At the beginning, a lot of us were lost and broken and so she became a "mama" figure of sorts and loved/doted on us as if we were her own. Like any good "mama" we were the center of her world. I feel like it's to the point now where it's like "I love you so very much monsters and I'll always be here for you but it's time to cut the cord and learn to stand on your own 2 feet". 

[God Control 2,181]

4 hours ago, Evan Peters said:

Everyone going "you don't have to kiss the ground she walks on!!" Are missing the point. Nobody said you can't dislike a song. She clearly hints at the fans who do NOTHING but whine, cry, and shade anything she does because they have nothing better to do. 

if you're going "I loved this BUT" or "I don't hate this song there's a difference" or whatever excuse y'all come up with then you're probably part of the problem. 

Some of you are so desperate to turn your boring ass drags and complaints on Gaga to make her look like the bad guy, it's actually gross. Lol

What's boring and gross is how a singer complains about her fans, who made her who she is, for having a negative opinion about the quality of her latest works, instead of actually trying to improve.

[fivefoottwo 3,108]

18 hours ago, Bio said:

I'm just gonna say that I really love ARTPOP, it's probably my favorite Gaga album, tied with Joanne and that I've been a fan of hers since Just Dance came out in june 2008. But I don't understand this whole "my fans betrayed me" thing. People are not obliged to love everything you do just because they like you and your music lol. I think she had a very unhealthy and delusional idea of what fans really are. Maybe now that she's distancing herself from us she learned her lesson but blaming people for not licking the ground you walk through is a bit weird.

i feel like there's a difference between not liking something and tearing someone down because of it 

[FameHookah 4,614]

Its about the bandwagoners and the fame, it was all a perfect illusion, she's still hurt after losing so many "fans" and fame after the huge TF/M eras, the ARTPOP backlash got her, in fact she stated to get affected by it when MTN underperformed and she started doing drugs on tour.

It REALLY hurts, believe me :'/ but deep down she is still grateful for the fans that are still here supporting her on a more stripped down era, she needed Joanne to heal and feel appreciated for who she is not the "Perfect Illusion" she created back in 2008-2011..

Anyways.. this topic makes me sad bc im going thru something like that on a  much smaller scale and i'm really depressed rn, i cant even listen Perfect illusion or Million Reasons without crying, i admire her for keep it going, i would have quitted or killed myself.. she is really strong, srry for my bad english.

[Antichrist 9,818]

18 hours ago, iFameMonzter said:

Wtf saying fans betray you because they don't like your work they said she was aware that people wanted her to make a great pop record but she did her own thing hunny u can't expect ur fans to love everything what you put out and saying they betrayed you because of that is really yeah... Garbage 

Yeah we want too much and she cant satisfy everyone but then again she should know that especially when putting out something you know your fans didn't ask for so I say 50/50 are ****ed up 

sis what are you saying, you're completely contradicting yourself

[Laceface 2,964]

We don't know this yet though do we, although it does kinda make sense. The info provided in the last bit of the other 'leak' thread makes it all sound like bs. 

[Joshie S 6,142]

I think you're on the right track, but I also always felt that Perfect Illusion was more about Troy (her management) etc. during the ARTPOP era.... "where are you cause I can't see, but I feel you watching me".. Gaga said that even though Troy was still her manager he wasn't around when she broke her hip.. 

What I want to know is, where is Gaga first coming from when she's driving in the car when the PI MV starts? What does the PI MV continue on from??? where is she driving from??? (cause if the Joanne music videos connect, what comes before PI)