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omg, iam noticing that all these big acts started flopping hard after their 3rd studio album. example, JLo, 5 cent, Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera.

can gaga survive this, or will she dissapear with her 4th album. i wonder if record companies notice this. iam scared.

The transition between the third and fourth album is an important time.

Led Zeppelin's third album was torn apart by critics, but then their fourth album IV is often referred to as their masterpiece. Madonna's third album True Blue is her best selling studio album and she followed that up with Like A Prayer, which is seen as her masterpiece. Britney ripped her audience in half with her third album, but followed it up with In The Zone, which finally gained her critical acclaim. So it definitely goes both ways.

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jhonyguy04

this album is the moment of truth. everything rides on this!! iam excited but scared. i will pray for gaga!!!

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InGagzWeTrust

this album is the moment of truth. everything rides on this!! iam excited but scared. i will pray for gaga!!!

feeling the same, I'm so anxious about this whole next album thing :giveup:

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Arturo

I'm sure she'll do fine. Her manager Troy Carter means business. He knows what he's doing. And Interscope knows what they're doing too. They learned not to rush single eras and not to hype up the album too much.

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Just A Holy Fool

How close is Katy to topping iTunes?

I really hope Carly Rae can cock-block her :laughga:

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jhonyguy04

I really hope Carly Rae can cock-block her :laughga:

or lights or titanium, lol.

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Phlop

I'm not worried about Gagas next album. BTW was the album that mattered when it came to critic acclaim and sales. And if you consider TFM being her sophomore album, then she's fine.

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Just A Holy Fool

or lights or titanium, lol.

I don't think they have enough momentum yet to pass Katy before she peaks. :ohno:

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saltface

Some of you are so melodramatic

Dont you care that Gaga's career could be over!? :laughga:

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hausofmike

Ew, is Cher Lloyd really happening in the US? :nails:

U can thank Ryan peacrest for that one

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Americano

I'll agree that Lady Gaga's next album will be a test of her sustainability in the industry.

The fourth album era (or third LP for her) is always really a defining moment, along with the album that follows. You're beyond the introduction phase so you need to flex different colors and show you can stand the wind of change as years go by.

What Gaga did with Born This Way was establish that critical acclaim and experimental edge BEFORE her fourth era/3rd LP, so she can actually play it a bit safer and not have to stick her neck as far out as Christina/50 cent/etc. She jumped a step in the usual industry set-up.

She moved way ahead of past artists by fracturing/scaring some of her fans away earlier on in her career, while she had the hype and momentum to rebound. If she did that with a later album, that may have not been the case. (Christina) She probably figured "I can lose some wind and some fans now while the media keeps chasing me around, but who knows where I'll be 2 years from now."

Now, after a rather rocky album era and some backlash, she's still seen as the top b---h in music and can do whatever she wants with her 4th era. That's a great luxury.

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Oyemiamor

Predicted sales for the week, seems like Justin "fever" has cooled off. Earlier in the week they predicted upwards of 500k.

*Justin Bieber (Island/IDJ) 400-425k

*Kenny Chesney (Blue Chair/Columbia Nashville) 190-210k

*Fiona Apple (Epic) 65-70k

Usher (RCA) 50-55k

Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k

Rock of Ages (WaterTower) 45-50k

*Smashing Pumpkins (Martha's Music/EMI Label Services) 45-50k

One Direction (Syco/Columbia) 40-45k

Rush (Roadrunner) 27-30k

Alan Jackson (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 25-28k

Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 24-27k

Josh Turner (MCA Nashville) 23-27k

*Dirty Heads (Five Seven) 20-23k

Now Country 5 (UMe) 20-23k

Carrie Underwood (19/Arista Nashville) 18-21k

Lionel Richie (Mercury Nashville) 18-21k

John Mayer (Columbia) 18-21k

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Predicted sales for the week, seems like Justin "fever" has cooled off. Earlier in the week they predicted upwards of 500k.

*Justin Bieber (Island/IDJ) 400-425k

*Kenny Chesney (Blue Chair/Columbia Nashville) 190-210k

*Fiona Apple (Epic) 65-70k

Usher (RCA) 50-55k

Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k

Rock of Ages (WaterTower) 45-50k

*Smashing Pumpkins (Martha's Music/EMI Label Services) 45-50k

One Direction (Syco/Columbia) 40-45k

Rush (Roadrunner) 27-30k

Alan Jackson (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 25-28k

Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 24-27k

Josh Turner (MCA Nashville) 23-27k

*Dirty Heads (Five Seven) 20-23k

Now Country 5 (UMe) 20-23k

Carrie Underwood (19/Arista Nashville) 18-21k

Lionel Richie (Mercury Nashville) 18-21k

John Mayer (Columbia) 18-21k

Did you see his NBC special ratings tanked too? Bieber is gonna be irrelevant after this album.

And hey, Usher stuck in there a bit like we had hoped! Not impressive, but not bad either. :lala:

Also worth noting, not trying to start a stan war, but Teenage Dream and Talk That Talk are both doing pretty ****ty sales wise despite big singles.

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