Lanius 1,055 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, BibleThisWay said: as much as a lot of those guys were assholes, people need to realise not wanting to date a trans person =/= being transphobic. A lot of straight people want to have children which is very hard to do naturally for trans people, so rejecting a person because they're trans is a completely valid excuse The whole, "I don't wanna date a trasnwoman because I want children" is weak argument imo. Would they not date a woman who was infertile? I rather these men just say that they have a preference for Cis-women. Instead of pulling for straws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, lodylody said: It's a perfectly valid sexual preference to not be attracted to trans men. For example, if a trans man has a vagina, I am not attracted to vaginas and that's perfectly reasonable. You can't say I'm transphobic just because I won't date a man with a vagina. That's being vaginaphobic and nothing more. (EDIT: I will reiterate though, that the men shown are transphobic for calling her a freak show, etc). "I'm transphobic but I'm not not transphobic." The fact that you had to make this all about yourself as well, despite there being absolutely no need to do that, speaks volumes. Please don't converse with me any further, you have your mind already made up and are in the illusion that you're in the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 she's being so extra the other day on Grindr a trans man was all like I'm a macho I'm trans but I still have a vagina! No sissies! too much to handle LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleThisWay 4,370 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Lanius said: The whole, "I don't wanna date a trasnwoman because I want children" is weak argument imo. Would they not date a woman who was infertile? I rather these men just say that they have a preference for Cis-women. Instead of pulling for straws It's a completely valid reason, infertility is a big issue for people especially when things like IVF costs crazy money. And only wanting to date cis people is perfectly fine too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Supersonic said: "I'm transphobic but I'm not not transphobic." The fact that you had to make this all about yourself as well, despite there being absolutely no need to do that, speaks volumes. Please don't converse with me any further, you have your mind already made up and are in the illusion that you're in the right. Fine, we'll directly relate it to this situation. If I'm a straight man that doesn't like penis and this trans woman has a penis or an artificial vagina, I should date this woman despite her lack of a natural vagina? Is this what you're saying? People like you are the reason that the LGBT+ community struggles to move forwards. You'd prefer to spend your time arguing for people to change what they're attracted to rather than trying to effect real change, such as stopping the murder of innocent LGBT+ people in foreign countries. Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, BibleThisWay said: It's a completely valid reason, infertility is a big issue for people especially when things like IVF costs crazy money. And only wanting to date cis people is perfectly fine too. So these same guys would reject a cis women who is infertile as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, Lanius said: The whole, "I don't wanna date a trasnwoman because I want children" is weak argument imo. Would they not date a woman who was infertile? I rather these men just say that they have a preference for Cis-women. Instead of pulling for straws how about you stop searching for arguments and accept that some of us don't find them ATTRACTIVE? that doesn't mean i have a phobia or HATRED towards someone. Its fair enough if I don't want to date them. Deal with it. LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I mean. Y'all could just say "Sorry, I think this might no be working out, I wish you luck with your future relationships." but y'all gotta go out of your way to say "I'M DROPPING YOU CUZ YOU'RE TRANS" and expect people to NOT think you're transphobic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Supersonic said: Please don't converse with me any further, you have your mind already made up and are in the illusion that you're in the right. Also, this is classic SJW behaviour. Put your fingers in your ears and pull a Sam Smith singing "la la la" as soon as you hear an opposing view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Ferrer Zorola said: how about you stop searching for arguments and accept that some of us don't find them ATTRACTIVE? that doesn't mean i have a phobia or HATRED towards someone. Its fair enough if I don't want to date them. Deal with it. You don't find him Attractive? He's trans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 From her responses she doesn't seem any better of a person than them. Expose what? It's a known fact that most of straight people will refuse you when they find out you are trans. So I am guessing the best way to date on these apps is to make sure people know you are trans before reaching you out so the ones who actually want you, text you. 💎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Supersonic said: I mean. Y'all could just say "Sorry, I think this might no be working out, I wish you luck with your future relationships." but y'all gotta go out of your way to say "I'M DROPPING YOU CUZ YOU'RE TRANS" and expect people to NOT think you're transphobic? There's a polite way to do everything. But there's a difference between common decency (which would be saying "I'm sorry but I'm not attracted to transgender people, I wish you the best though") and transphobia ("ew I hate transgenders ew stop messaging me you'll go to hell for your sins"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleThisWay 4,370 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lanius said: So these same guys would reject a cis women who is infertile as well? Some would. Although infertility problems don't usually occur until a couple knows each other for a long time and start planning a family which is different. Still infertility aside, if a straight guy doesn't want to date a trans person because they have a penis or an artificial vagina that's totally acceptable too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Lanius said: You don't find him Attractive? He's trans Not if he doesn't have a penis. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanius 1,055 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, lodylody said: Not if he doesn't have a penis. Sorry. He does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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