Talent 9,333 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, SISTERV said: For me this just adds to the idea that Beyonce and Jay-Z cheat. I mean....Beyonce has had like three actual solid hits this decade yet she somehow gets amazing sales, tons of awards, and is revered as some other worldly goddess. She is incredibly talented but she never really delivers in her actual music. Its all image to me. When was Beyonce's last HIT? "Drunk in Love" in 2013, "Partition" in 2014, and then even further back "Who Run The World (Girls), in 2011. Then Jay-Z. Like....Magna Carta Holy Grail was okayyy....but I don't feel like it was massive or anything. And his features are rare and kind of weak. I don't get it. I truly don't. Something is truly going on in the music industry right now....like either the rules have been ****ed up in some way or people can actually pay to have a hit to stay relevant. Not even treating that as delusion anymore. How is it that the Top 10 is pretty much 90% male for the past entire year? How is it that Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber and Drake and The Weeknd and Bruno Mars and Charlie Puth and Shawn Mendez and The Chainsmokers and Kendrick Lamar and Calvin Harris just easily bust out massive hits one after the other and huge acts like Lorde, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Iggy Azalea, Rihanna, Selena Gomez who have FAR more DEDICATED bases online and off (than most of these guys) are getting snubbed and barely able to get a Top 20 unless they suck up to some douchey electronic producer? It just feels like the industry really is controlled on a whole new level. I thought streaming would make music more democratic and based on actual talent because it would be purely based on what people liked, not what the radio played, but it ironically actually has become more controlled and monitored by these massive streaming services and only certain artists get promoted on all their playlists and banners that they predict will do well based on computer algorithms, which in turn keeps the same kind of music in rotation (maybe thats why Tropical House will just NOT fall off, even though its normal life expectancy shouldn't have passed 18 months-2 years).....which happens to be alot of guys right now. I'm sorry....I just don't think the general musical taste just magically shifted towards only guys voices. People didn't just stop liking girls voices one day. And its even more odd because there are alot of really great female acts that have just as catchy, edgy, forward thinking music but the industry keeps sucking in these rent-a-rappers like Migos, Lil Uzi Vert, G-Eazy, Fetty Wap, ect. and throwing them on some boring break up song by a "super chill voiced" straight guy. Bitch....WTF happened to the diversity of 2009-2012? ****....even the boring 2000's had more diversity than this. And for the damn record........there is no ****ing way in Hell or on Earth that Jay-Z's new album went Tupperware let alone Platinum. Anyone that believes that is just Peww. Something needs to be done about streaming services. I mean, hits these days are like "24 weeks at #1" "10 weeks at #1" "14 weeks at #1". Just because of streaming. It's crazy and it's exhausting. 🔵 - Banned because I quoted a stupid meme. Literally. So, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 28,389 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ferrer Zorola said: Ow bebé 👦🏻 Yo tengo 21 👳🏻 Si 🙇 Long Live Gretchen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 11 hours ago, ZacharyMark said: Again, this is why we should go back to counting only physical or digital sales of albums. There are too many loopholes these days with streaming and giving albums away through promotion. This! Joanne would be the biggest female seller of 2017! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIghtmareElm 2,606 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 This is probably because Sprint customers get a free trial of Tidal. BB should make a rule for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lassex 1,169 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Melisandre said: It's like 666 but less devilish Oh, then I prefer 666 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaxboy 5,686 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 17 hours ago, JoeysWorldTour said: This is probably because Sprint customers get a free trial of Tidal. BB should make a rule for this. I'm a sprint customer and would still rather pay for Spotify lol. I feel it's such a dishonest way to say he sold 1M copies. Oh Jay-Z, first he cheats on Beyonce now he's cheating on the charts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,910 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 In March 2015, Tidal claimed it had 580k users. Are we really supposed to believe that this figure would has doubled, tripled, quadrulped and so on, in just over 2 years? The only time I even heard anyone talk about Tidal after its initial launch was when Kanye released TLOP and then I never heard of it again. Now that he's cut ties with the company speaks volumes. The only artist pulling in 100 million streams and more right now is Ed Sheeran and he was on Spotify. He pulled in 134.6 million streams from the US on his first week. You can't pull in streams like that unless you're on the biggest streaming platform, unless you have hype, done promotion and your album is available to buy anywhere. Drake also broke records for his More Life playlist. Spotify and Apple Music are required if you want to break big streams. Jay is 47 and this is only his second album in 8 years. You really want to believe that Tidal is filled with young people (the majority of streaming users are young) wanting to listen to his new work (and stream it continuously)? No, if they want hip hop, they want to listen to Drake, Kendrick, Future and so on, all these young people who are newer, younger and hip. Sorry, but even hip hop has an age limit for when people just stop buying your work en masse. Even heavyweights like Dr Dre and Eminem can't get those massive sales anymore. It's a young person's game and the young rap fans want music that represents their youth, not a married father of three who's approaching 50. This is not adding up whatsoever. Streaming is out of control and we just have to take the word of the charts that these streams are truthful. Even Ed Sheeran's dominance on the charts led to change in how your tracks chart and the streaming/sales ratio of older tracks. People power: if we take issue with this, things can change. 22 hours ago, SISTERV said: How is it that the Top 10 is pretty much 90% male for the past entire year? How is it that Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber and Drake and The Weeknd and Bruno Mars and Charlie Puth and Shawn Mendez and The Chainsmokers and Kendrick Lamar and Calvin Harris just easily bust out massive hits one after the other and huge acts like Lorde, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Iggy Azalea, Rihanna, Selena Gomez who have FAR more DEDICATED bases online and off (than most of these guys) are getting snubbed and barely able to get a Top 20 unless they suck up to some douchey electronic producer? Your entire post was amazing but this bit in particular really knocked it out the park. I can't stand it how men can release a track that is completely solo and have no trouble getting a top ten or a #1, on the week of release, usually with no video...yet a female artist has to feature a DJ or a rapper on her track and have a video if she even stands a sniff at top ten and she usually has to wait weeks until this happens. Then, even after an exhausting promo campaign, she still can't even sell 200k in the first week. Meanwhile, the only female names that are killing it are the big 3: Beyonce, Adele and Taylor. Who have been killing it from the beginning. You can understand where these Illuminati theories come from because why is it the same names being given the PR treatment over and over while the newer names just fade away after one album unless they're a male rapper? It's just a rotation of the same names with the same level of hype. I'm glad that more and more people are waking up to the realities of it all. I hope these artists are in for a rude awakening one day when they realise that the public won't be told what to do anymore. Releasing an album out the blue with no singles, a cover and title that tells you nothing and no explanation as to its musical content...but yet expecting people to buy it is arrogance of the highest order. You could argue that we pay money to see a movie that we don't know anything about but, we do know about it! We are informed by its contents from the title, the poster for it, the plot description and several trailers. All this helps us in deciding if the movie is for us. But buying an album with 4:44 written on a peach background just because it was made by a big artist? In the words of Rage Against The Machine: f**k you, I won't do what you tell me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Trash,this is dissapointing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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