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RomansRoar
6 minutes ago, mariomania1234 said:

It didn't. Joanne outsold it. Katy is only higher because of the tour bundle.

But, the GP is still willing to buy Katy's tickets and see her on tour. Nobody's forcing them. On the other hand, Gaga was the Women of The Year, played the main role in AHS, performed on Oscars and Grammys, SNL, etc. and her numbers are still inferior to Katy's. Wasn't I told Gaga managed to clean her image and made GP respect her more? Why don't they buy more of her albums then, hm?

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mariomania1234
4 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

But, the GP is still willing to buy Katy's tickets and see her on tour. Nobody forces them. On the other hand, Gaga was the Women of The Year, played the main role in AHS, performed on Oscars and Grammys, SNL, etc. and her numbers are still inferior to Katy's. Weren't I told Gaga managed to clean her image and made GP respect her more? Why don't they buy more of her albums then, hm?

Umm Gaga's tour is doing excellent. If Gaga had done that sketchy bundle deal, she would have outdone Katy's easily. So her numbers are not inferior. They are in theory, superior. 

Anyway, it's clear you joined this site just to troll because your first post in here was pretty transparent. 

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RomansRoar
3 minutes ago, mariomania1234 said:

Umm Gaga's tour is doing excellent. If Gaga had done that sketchy bundle deal, she would have outdone Katy's easily. So her numbers are not inferior. 

Anyway, it's clear you joined this site just to troll because your first post in here was pretty transparent. 

If telling the truth is trolling, then call me the greatest troll. I'm born this way, I'm simply a frank person.

Gaga's tour is doing well  because of Superbowl, let's be honest. Without it, I don't think she would be able to tour this time around. Besides, is she going to to reach 100M gross with its, at all? Just sincere questions.

Give Katy a credit where it's due - she's still popular and relevant and can shift those copies.

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6 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

But, the GP is still willing to buy Katy's tickets and see her on tour. Nobody's forcing them. On the other hand, Gaga was the Women of The Year, played the main role in AHS, performed on Oscars and Grammys, SNL, etc. and her numbers are still inferior to Katy's. Wasn't I told Gaga managed to clean her image and made GP respect her more? Why don't they buy more of her albums then, hm?

Katy's entire album selling life depends on her fanbase gurl

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4 hours ago, Born To Slay said:

Britney Jean and Glory would've gone number one if Britney did it with her residency.

It would have been really smart to do it with Britney Jean seeing as how it was the beginning of her residency and there was a lot of hype surrounding it.

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mariomania1234
3 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

If telling the truth is trolling, then call me the greatest troll. I'm born this way, I'm simply a frank person.

Gaga's tour is doing well  because of Superbowl, let's be honest. Without it, I don't think she would be able to tour this time around. Besides, is she going to to reach 100M gross with its, at all? Just sincere questions.

Give Katy a credit where it's due - she's still popular and relevant and can shift those copies.

I never discredited this. But anybody can see that her first week sales are incredibly inflated by that bundle deal. The fact that it just barely oversold Joanne's first week is is telling. It's deceptive.

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RomansRoar
2 minutes ago, mariomania1234 said:

I never discredited this. But anybody can see that her first week sales are incredibly inflated by that bundle deal. The fact that it just barely oversold Joanne is telling.

Around 25k copies more isn't ''barely overselling''. GP just cares more for Katy. Gaga was just lucky to have her Superbowl show this year. Otherwise...

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Just now, RomansRoar said:

Around 25k copies more isn't barely overselling. GP just cares more for Katy.

Umm clearly not lmao. I'm not going to repeat myself. I just laid out the facts to you. Let's wait for the final numbers.

Also, she couldn't even get one of her singles to the top of iTunes.

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nattuggla
1 minute ago, RomansRoar said:

Around 25k copies more isn't barely overselling. GP just cares more for Katy.

Most of the sales of the debut week are coming from fans. What is more important are the following weeks because this is indicative if the GP cares for the artist/album.

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2 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

Around 25k copies more isn't ''barely overselling''. GP just cares more for Katy. Gaga was just lucky to have her Superbowl show this year. Otherwise...

Why was the pre-Superbowl Million Reasons chart run still better than Bon Appetit then :gum:

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5 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

Around 25k copies more isn't ''barely overselling''. GP just cares more for Katy. Gaga was just lucky to have her Superbowl show this year.

But the Super Bowl happened in February whereas Joanne was released in October and isn't the point of a Super Bowl halftime show to promote an upcoming tour? Madonna did it and Beyoncé did it too, hell even Katy did it back in 2015.

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3 hours ago, RomansRoar said:

Around 25k copies more isn't ''barely overselling''. GP just cares more for Katy. Gaga was just lucky to have her Superbowl show this year. Otherwise...

Why is it that Katy, with a top 10 single, still couldn't push more numbers than Joanne who at the time only had a top 20 single :air:

Why is it that BA and SS flopped harder than GUY/MTN/ and PI :giveup:

Why is it that even with a tour bundle, she's only barely racking in sales equivalent to an almost unheard of album with no hits or trendy music :deadbanana:

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Million Reasons was more promoted and discounted than Bon Apetit, even during the pre-Superbowl time.

Joanne's sales were heavily declining post its debut week and Superbowl performance gave it a bit more life. I guess GP wasn't wasn't that much interested.

Katy didn't need Superbowl to tour at all. Gaga, on the other hand... And her tour is going to do just a little bit better than Artrave, which is nothing to write home about. Katy will slay Europe and Oceania! The global queen!

 

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28 minutes ago, RomansRoar said:

Million Reasons was more promoted and discounted than Bon Apetit, even during the pre-Superbowl time.

Joanne's sales were heavily declining post its debut week and Superbowl performance gave it a bit more life. I guess GP wasn't wasn't that much interested.

Katy didn't need Superbowl to tour at all. Gaga, on the other hand... And her tour is going to do just a little bit better than Artrave, which is nothing to write home about. Katy will slay Europe and Oceania! The global queen!

 

But MR wasn't a trendy song. It was ballad and if you look at the charts, ballads aren't doing well. But it still went higher than BA :giveup: kiiii :giveup:

The album sales for Joanne were lower prior to the Super Bowl, because the album was out for 4 months by then, which is to be expected. Will Witness Even be charting 4 months from now? :giveup: Furthermore, if we look at first week sales and the second and third week sales, Joanne stayed relatively the same. It slowly decreased but stayed in the same range, something I don't know will hold true with Witness :gum:

 

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