monketsharona 80,349 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Anveeroy said: RedOne and Lady Gaga never ever made any bad songs. So I have faith in them! Literally, even their raw demos (example : Freak Show <3 ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,188 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, monketsharona said: Literally, even their raw demos (example Freak Show <3 ) Yeah! Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxe Ford 3,481 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's funny how everybody thinks they know *excactly* what RedOne and Gaga feels about *everything*. Like they have first hand informatin on stuff. #factresistance What happens in Luxe Ford stays in Luxe Ford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Albertodift said: Yeah...he needs to let it go though. I feel like he will just be disappointed over and over again. I really don't think Gaga is interested in making a record with him until she has a proper big smash on her own with another producer. If she were to collab with him and she got her first real smash hit in a while then most of the credit would go to him/ "Gaga returning to her old hit maker" etc..and she knows it. She mentioned many times that she hates when media or fans associate hits to certain "celeb producers" when it is the artist that should be associated to being the hit maker not the producer. Gaga must release A-yo then. It's a potential smash. ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I think Gaga is reserving what they recorded in 2014-15 for something ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,433 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, T3rrorBlade said: Gaga must release A-yo then. It's a potential smash. Nothing on Joanne could really smash hard honestly. MR was the closest thing and it became a nice decent hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 15 hours ago, Albertodift said: Nothing on Joanne could really smash hard honestly. MR was the closest thing and it became a nice decent hit. Promotion disagrees ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 80,349 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Albertodift said: Nothing on Joanne could really smash hard honestly. MR was the closest thing and it became a nice decent hit. Especially knowing she stopped the promo for months... The album is dead in terms of promo tbh... If she wants to promote some music she should try with The Cure or new music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,433 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, T3rrorBlade said: Promotion disagrees Promotion helps but it's radio and streaming that can make hits now a days. Gaga is a weak streamer, the osund on Joanne is not streaming "friendly" and radio is hard on her. It's just not doable at this point. But things could change by the next album. We'll have to wait and see I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,831 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 35 minutes ago, monketsharona said: Why though ? I don't think there were any bad feelings between them... He helped her to make some of the most iconic tracks in pop music of the decades, what some of her other producers failed to... Because he has not evolved artistically, just look at his "solo" material, his songs still sound like they're trapped in 2009 and we need artistic evolution NOT hits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, gagzus said: Because he has not evolved artistically, just look at his "solo" material, his songs still sound like they're trapped in 2009 and we need artistic evolution NOT hits I still don't understand the "artistically growing/evolving" thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,831 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, MaryJaneHolland said: I still don't understand the "artistically growing/evolving" thing What's not to understand? It's literally self explanatory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 80,349 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, gagzus said: Because he has not evolved artistically, just look at his "solo" material, his songs still sound like they're trapped in 2009 and we need artistic evolution NOT hits Most of Gaga's producers are doing horrible music on their own. Last Mark Ronson solo album is absolutely bad (only the song with Bruno Mars is actually good) I don't think the song RedOne has done with Gaga on Joanne is a song that is stuck in 2009 though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, gagzus said: What's not to understand? It's literally self explanatory How does someone grow artistically? "Art/artist/artistic" are throw in too much on this site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,831 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: How does someone grow artistically? "Art/artist/artistic" are throw in too much on this site Ok lemme explain since you don't understand, his production is still a simple 10-15 multitrack setup with electro-pop and dance-pop he hasn't incorporated new genres or styles to mix it up he's also not tried more stripped down production nor more full production. He hasn't experimented enough with effects, his sound is completely dated. His songwriting credits are still for basic edits and input, he still sticks to the four on the floor style of beats that have been around in Pop for 30 years now and only a few people have stepped outside that in Pop, his Eastern European style has been diminished since Eastern Europe used to ALWAYS be ahead in terms of sound when it came to music, and Europe in general always was ahead of the US in sounds and styles of Pop and dance. Hes not evolved or even ATTEMPTED to experiment. Where as Gaga has no two albums that are the same, he would never be able to do that for her to keep up the exciting cycle of her being unpredictable sonically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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