911 16,707 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jase said: It kills me to see The Cure not being promoted. It could have been her biggest hit in years - especially in the UK. It's about to re-peakย ๐๐ช ๐๐๐๐๐๐ค๐ฅ ๐๐๐๐๐ช ๐๐ค ๐๐, ๐ก๐ ๐ก ๐ ๐ก๐๐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFlop 1,979 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 be glad you stan talent. charts don't mean anything in this day in age. gaga has the respect that very few artists have anymore.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I don't get this obsession with Lady Gaga and the charts. First of all, she's still enjoying chart success. Second of all, the charts do not matter anymore. Music has progressed to a point where you can be a notable musician without needing 'smash hits'. Lana del Rey, Florence + the Machine, Marina and the Diamonds are just a few examples of notable, respected, pop-alternative musicians that experience a dedicated fan base and deliver memorable eras time and time again. If Gaga is transitioning into an artist like that, then she'll be in great company. I think it's really sad some fans weren't able to truly take in and enjoy the Joanne era due to fixation with the charts. We got great visuals (Perfect Illusion + John Wayne), performances (AMAs, Carpool Karaoke, SNL, Royal Albert Hall, X Factor UK, Japanese Promo, VSFS, etc), songs (all of them, but notable fan favorites like Diamond Heart, Ayo, Joanne, John Wayne, Dancin' in Circles, Perfect Illusion and Million Reasons), fashion (the signature pink hat, cut-off jean shorts and crop tops, among other signature fashion choices), and interviews. And, on top of all this she's had a Top 5 Billboard Hot 100 song that has reached over 100M Spotify streams and remains a steady presence on the radio and on iTunes charts.ย If you'll look at the previous paragraph, the least memorable thing is her chart position for Million Reasons. So stop caring about the charts so much, of course we want her albums to sell and singles to resonate (and lead to more album sales) but if it's not a smash, just be happy that she continues to serve distinct visuals and performances to make each era unique and special to her fans!ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticalice 2,224 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 She could easily get a big hit if she wants. She goes to #1 on iTunes everywhere and streaming & radio are improving. The issue is her promo. Of course ASIB is happening, but if it wasn't and she was actually promoting The Cure right now with a music video out, it would definitely be a top 10 hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 There haven't been any real smash hits since 2013. All the "hits" since that year (which is whenย streaming was incorporated into the charts)ย have been a perfect Illusion. Did you know that there are "click factories" in China where you can pay to have millions of Facebook likes, or Spotify streams, or YouTube views? That's why I don't believe any of the statistics since 2013.ย Gaga is now a different kind of success compared to 2009-2011. It's a more stable success with longevity. She's a touring artist (like Beyoncรฉ) who doesn't need billions of views or number 1 singles to generate revenue.ย Charts themselves are becoming irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingthemall 1,596 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Are we forgetting "Million Reasons" peaking at #4 on the BBH100? "The Cure" debuting at #1 in over 50 countries?ย MR becoming the best selling female (solo) song of this year? *so far Becoming the first female artist to headline Coachella in 10 years? Gainning the highest viewed Super Bowl halftime show performance, ultimately becoming the most watched event in music history? Going on a sold out world tour here in August? "Joanne" selling over 1.3+ย million copies worldwide Giving "Tiffany and Co" a 250% sales increase due to her campaign? ... and you're wanting a #1 hit? The bitch is breaking records and setting new heights left and right. GAGA is always cool.ย chase your big, beautiful dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 46,473 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Its because she does not follow trends, isnt seen as cool and is aging. It is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Jase said: It kills me to see The Cure not being promoted. It could have been her biggest hit in years - especially in the UK. I mean imagine if Gaga had debuted The Cure at the SuperBowl? It probably would've been her first #1 in years. It just seems like the stars haven't properly aligned in such a long time for us to get a hit. I know we can all enjoy Gaga without smashes, but if Gaga wants to be a popstar, she'll need to get hits, otherwise she should focus on acting or release music completely outside of the mainstream.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imnotyourbabe10 6,100 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 It's okay we haven't had a smash, I think. ย People still enjoy her music. ย But, oh boy, how I long for the excitement ofย 2009, 2010 (Telephone, Alejandro), 2011 (BTW), and 2013 (AP). ย It's okay, though. ย She's creating such a beautiful legacy. ย I really just hate feeling like a freak for listening to her (specificallyย Slay-jandro) every. single. day. but ya gotta own it and screw what the GP think of her and the fanbase. ย So what I'm trying to say is...I see both sides of missing the smash and enjoying her current path. ย Gotta find the middle ground in these polarizing times. ย ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,573 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Okay, I'm sorry, but this is legitimately annoying. I don't want to single you out or anything, but you always make these kinds of threads, and I don't know if it's a joke or not, but you have to realize that artists come and go. And no, I'm not saying that Gaga's "gone", but it's just a simple fact that she isn't as popular as she use to be. If you're stanning Gaga for the sole purpose of just having a hit, then you need to stan someone else because the truth of the matter is is that Gaga may not ever have that "super, amazing, spectacular #1ย hit" again, and that's okay. If you're making your whole life revolve around the marketabilitty and getting a "smah hit", then you're not truly enjoying the art. Remember, Gaga's anย artist,ย notย a money making machine. Music is art, and art isย suppose to be created for the creator. Art itself in't suppose to be about making other people feel good, and art itself shouldn't be made to please or pander to other people. Art needs to be madeย for the artist, and if that means going in a more alternative and less mainstream direction, then so be it.ย ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ถ๐ข, โ'๐ฉ๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ข ๐ถ๐ฌ๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ซ ๐ช๐ถ ๐ก๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ช๐ฐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,243 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Ugh yes she is uncool to the gp and single choices have been so bad since BTW but the biggest thing holding Gaga back is herself. DWUW, Applause, Million Reasons, The Cure could have all been #1s with proper promotion in a reasonable time frame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyicecreamz 1,716 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, ChrisC said: Ugh yes she is uncool to the gp and single choices have been so bad since BTW but the biggest thing holding Gaga back is herself. DWUW, Applause, Million Reasons, The Cure could have all been #1s with proper promotion in a reasonable time frame 1 100 %ย Stop the music, Start the drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillynate 6,170 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Honestlyย I just don't get how some artistsย can get 1bย views on MULTIPLE videos in less than a year, and we've been holding on to 800m since what, 2011?ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, sillynate said: Honestlyย I just don't get how some artistsย can get 1bย views on MULTIPLE videos in less than a year, and we've been holding on to 800m since what, 2011?ย Gaga has only released 5 music videos in 6 years.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korok 4,272 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Dorothy Gale said: Gaga has only released 5 music videos in 6 years.ย This is the most depressing post that I have ever read. Imagine stanning for an artist that releases 0.8333333333 of a video every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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