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2011: The Year Pop Peaked


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Panchecco

I think she for sure helped pop music to return "popular" and 2011 was indeed the peak of pop music 

ARTPOP was already too EDM to be considered "pure" pop so maybe if she went for a different sound (still electronic like BTW but less dj-heavy) ARTPOP wouldn't have flopped and pop would have stayed relevant for a bit longer 

but who knows maybe she'll bring dance pop back in a few years when noone will care about edm and dj tracks anymore :shrug:

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SEANGT

....okay but what does Pop mean? RnB WAS pop in 2000 when it was at the peak. So was Rock, now Hip Hop is mainstream pop music. Does pop just mean a singer over a dance beat? lol 

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46 minutes ago, SEANGT said:

....okay but what does Pop mean? RnB WAS pop in 2000 when it was at the peak. So was Rock, now Hip Hop is mainstream pop music. Does pop just mean a singer over a dance beat? lol 

Tbh I don't really know but I think it comes down to differences in structure/rhythm/beats/etc. A pop song is usually dance oriented, i.e  it usually has a distinctive hook and tends to be upbeat and catchy.

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Oscar

Is this as low as it's going to get before it starts to get better? How soon til the next incline? 

Gaga was just a vessel for what was inevitable. It seems like there's some kind of higher power making these calls or maybe it's just math. Gaga's decline was inevitable and it's true no one has yet to match Gaga's peak after all these years. 

I don't really care who saves music again but if Gaga did it twice I'd bow down to her and suck her diqk (afterall i, am a lesbean)

Maybe based on the current trends, a guy will be the one to do it this time. If Gaga releases in 2018/2019 and saves music again good for her but if someone else does it, then the Gaga release will still be riding the incline wave so either way the next Gaga album is due to smash

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If society was more accepting of gays back then, could the disco era have overthrown the rock era causing the rock era to decline sooner?

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blackcoffee
8 hours ago, giskardsb said:

not convinced on their definitions.  In fact Blues/R&B is the genre that spawned every one of those represented genres yet they claim it had no impact until the 80's?  What did they consider the entire motown era?

Judging by the chart on the main article, I would assume they put Motown under the Soul genre (which is fitting) and the graph shows that genre having a big presence during the Motown era.

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14 minutes ago, Oscar said:

If society was more accepting of gays back then, could the disco era have overthrown the rock era causing the rock era to decline sooner?

No way. Rock was a juggernaut with so many subgenres.  Plus, rock, at that time, had a sort of gay presence and vibe. That genre had a very visible adrogengy and gender line blending with men through the 70s and 80s (glam rock in and of itself is ALL about that). Elton John, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, hair metal bands, Prince (he started with punk funk rock), and even like Mick Jagger did not fit into the typical idea of masculinity and their fluidity was definitely gay friendly. Rock was definitely not closed to gay culture but actually a part of it. 

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1 minute ago, blackcoffee said:

No way. Rock was a juggernaut with so many subgenres.  Plus, rock, at that time, had a sort of gay presence and vibe. That genre had a very visible adrogengy and gender line blending with men through the 70s and 80s (glam rock in and of itself is ALL about that). Elton John, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, hair metal bands, Prince (he started with punk funk rock), and even like Mick Jagger did not fit into the typical idea of masculinity and their fluidity was definitely gay friendly. Rock was definitely not closed to gay culture but actually a part of it. 

This is all great and all but disco seems so snubbed. It's a good genre but it has so much more potential still

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Just now, Oscar said:

This is all great and all but disco seems so snubbed. It's a good genre but it has so much more potential still

Totally agree. I am a much bigger fan of classic rock, but I love disco too. I think part of it's downfall (at least what I've learned from talking with my parents that lived in that amazing era of music) was how commercial and monotonous it got. It got tired and people got tired. They knew it lacked a certain and authenticity that people appreciated back then. 

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I feel that Gaga knew that this trend/pattern was going on, so she decided to do pop music because it's 'next in line' to be THE trend. It was very clever of her to do so too. :golfclap:

As for the decline, I think it's just inevitable. Radio was filled with so much pop music even I got tired of it a little bit. 

 

So moral of the story is: 

Shawn Mendes IS a Hunty.

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