Just how "unique" and "experimental" is ARTPOP?

[gagzus 15,867]

It has it's moments like Aura, ARTPOP and MJH come to mind. But something fans and haters of the era especially don't understand is when she described the era she basically meant she wanted Electronic Dance Music that was fun and the Art side was more in her fashion, performances and references. 

She even said it once in an interview that ARTPOP is what she had been doing the whole time and she basically meant that this era was gonna be her normal eras x100. It showed in her fashion going  more artsy, she didn't play her genre by halfs like pop stars were doing in the mainstream and she even participated in big art projects which even got her in the louvre.

So the album itself isn't ENTIRELY experimental but it is more sophisticated as ACTUAL EDM than the watered down dance-pop on the radio at the time

[tomsches 17,395]

It's not experimental at all. Just because you haven't heard a similar song from other "Pop girls" doesnt make it experimental. Some songs like Aura might be edgy for pop standards but thats it. Also, the Genre Art Pop does exist and the Album doesnt Sound anything like it 

[262626 204]

ARTPOP would've been unique and "experimental" if it was released a year before. She released it when the EDM hype was dying, so it wasn't that fresh anymore. 

[SKANK 14,288]

49 minutes ago, tomsches said:

It's not experimental at all. Just because you haven't heard a similar song from other "Pop girls" doesnt make it experimental. Some songs like Aura might be edgy for pop standards but thats it. Also, the Genre Art Pop does exist and the Album doesnt Sound anything like it 

 

Are there a lot of artists putting 90's R&B vocals over an EDM instrumental that was created to sound like the soundtrack to an 80's horror movie? Turning an eerie Dance of The Dead sample into a sultry R&B song seems fairly experimental. I think even by GG Allin standards, turning a song called Do What U Want (with my body) into a duet with a rapist is experimental.

Are there a lot of artists connecting their music to flying dresses? Are there a lot of lyricists with the ambition to write a line like "one second I'm the Koons then suddenly the Koons is me" and then commission Jeff Koons to make a 40 foot statue of themselves?  Is it not fairly experimental to release a pop album which is a musical tie-in to the combination of performance art (the Abramavoic method being applied to interviews and walks from her hotel to her car) and traditional art (Robert Wilson's portraits of her in the Louvre, the Koon's collage)?

ARTPOP as a project, is experimental and ambitious. Not just by pop star standards.

 

 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 hour ago, tomsches said:

It's not experimental at all. Just because you haven't heard a similar song from other "Pop girls" doesnt make it experimental. Some songs like Aura might be edgy for pop standards but thats it. Also, the Genre Art Pop does exist and the Album doesnt Sound anything like it 

You're right. Gaga's ARTPOP has nothing to do with what journalists call "art pop".

[Aced 538]

4 hours ago, ApplauseftAdele said:

Swine/Aura : 

 

 

MJH :

 

neither of them are even similar to any of those songs

but thanks for reminding me about jump its a bop

also this other song is fire

thanks buddy

[Oriane 21,021]

More experimental than the majority of pop and mainstream stuff we hear otherwise...

Aura is very different, some pop/electro with oriental influences, the verses are surprising and that chorus is really unexpected but fits so well.

I've never heard a song like ARTPOP, it's very ethereal and has its own universe.

Swine is one of the major experimental songs on the album : a mix between pop, techno, with metal influences I guess, for a difficult subject and it works very well. It's not supposed to make you feel comfortable and think it's beautiful, like most music does.

Fashion! combines pop, electro, disco... And it all works very well.

And I've never heard anything like Applause, I would call it theatrical pop.

Overall she's combining pop and electro with some subgenres like rock, disco, metal... And we really get to hear her vocals in all of this. 

[Princess Stache 2,066]

ARTPOP Act 2 was supposed to be more experimental.  Songs like Swine, Aura, and Donatella with heavy EDM beats were the more experimental ones on the album.

[Bio 23,538]

Aura, Venus, Swine, Mary Jane Holland and Dope are very experimental. Jewels N Drugs too, a pop star releasing a song with 3 rappers behind a trap EDM beat? Sexxx Dreams is sort of experimental because of the dialogue she has with singing and talking parts. Applause is experimental because of the lyrics and the way she sings it.

[Bear 7,515]

Further to my previous post, I do think that the instrumentals to MJH and Aura are pretty experimental. But if they're recycled from other songs, does Gaga deserve the credit for being experimental?

No, in my opinion- Risk taking perhaps for releasing something that doesn't conform to what is expected of her- but not experimental.

[Dominic 11,922]

In short, no. It has ambition but put ARTPOP alongside Born This Way and there's a huge difference.  

[MonsterPaws 2,726]

The era was experimental-ish.

But am I the only one who thinks ARTPOP (the music) is just straight-up pop? Not the generic kind obviously but the Gaga kind.

I don't know. I personally don't find it experimental felling personally.

Something experimental to me would be Ardipithecus by Willow or Dead Petz by Miley. Like that.

The only thing experimental I can think of from ARTPOP is Aura? And maybe G.U.Y and ARTPOP lyrically.

[monsterdino 31,991]

the only tracks I kind think of that are experimental are aura, venus and swine....the rest of the album is definitely NOT experimental

[Kayla 7,595]

23 hours ago, SKANK said:

 

Are there a lot of artists putting 90's R&B vocals over an EDM instrumental that was created to sound like the soundtrack to an 80's horror movie? Turning an eerie Dance of The Dead sample into a sultry R&B song seems fairly experimental. I think even by GG Allin standards, turning a song called Do What U Want (with my body) into a duet with a rapist is experimental.

Are there a lot of artists connecting their music to flying dresses? Are there a lot of lyricists with the ambition to write a line like "one second I'm the Koons then suddenly the Koons is me" and then commission Jeff Koons to make a 40 foot statue of themselves?  Is it not fairly experimental to release a pop album which is a musical tie-in to the combination of performance art (the Abramavoic method being applied to interviews and walks from her hotel to her car) and traditional art (Robert Wilson's portraits of her in the Louvre, the Koon's collage)?

ARTPOP as a project, is experimental and ambitious. Not just by pop star standards.

 

 

See, I'm totally on board with everyone saying the album was not experimental, then you go and make this post and I'm back to struggling with that idea.

Gaga really deserved more praise and discussion during the ARTPOP era. So much of what she was doing could have and should have been interpreted more seriously. The era as a whole was extremely experimental, and if she had the attention and mystery she did around The Fame era, people would have eaten it up and it'd be another exploration of the public's interpretation of art in pop. 

Honestly, if the albums would have been released TF, TFM, AP, and THEN C2C, followed by BTW then Joanne, it'd all make so much more since, imo. 

[moonpig8400 110]

I'm waiting for Gaga to go full out crazy and experimental/avant garde with one of her albums -- SONICALLY as well as visually (her visuals are always much more than the actual songs). 

I don't know how experimental you'd call it in the broad context of music (in a pop context sure it's more 'experimental') but when I first heard APPLAUSE I certainly found it DIFFERENT in sound to everything else at the time. 

The harsh and witchy vocals -- the low male reversed backing vocals that sounded like David Bowie underneath in the verses -- combined with the geeky synths -- it was totally unheard of in this era for a pop artist to incorporate such alternative sounds. VENUS was extremely fresh when I heard it -- dissonant harmonies in the verse with intergalactic space production. 

I've always found Gaga has done this with her music -- incorporated unexpected vintage styles into a pop format -- and many people have actually followed on and I think Gaga set the trend from day 1 with The Fame ! 

The bell like synths in Money Honey..... The Cardigans-esque surfy rock of Summerboy with the strange synths at the end...... She was always incorporating bygone / old styles which I was fascinated by as pop was quite boring and staid at the time/before she came along. 

By the time ARTPOP came out a lot of people had copied her so it didn't stand out as much as her other works. Everyone is experimenting more, being more vintage, being more colourful, dressing up more, ever since Gaga. I think she should push the envelope EVEN MORE and go where the others DAREN'T GO!!!!! 

The album ARTPOP itself is full of colour and fun, (G.U.Y, Swine, Mary Jane Holland kind of slow the pace for me) . AURA, APPLAUSE, ARTPOP, VENUS, GYPSY are bursting with COLOUR AND VITALITY! 

It's experimental in some regards and very pop in some regards. That's why it's ARTPOP !!!!!!