HausofLenis 734 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Why am I on GGD said: That instrumental is pure gold though. Say what you want about the vocals or the lyrics, but the production on Dope is one of Gaga's best. The way those synths work together to accentuate her performance is amazing - and experimental in it's own way. Very simplistic and raw, yet very bold and electronic at the same time. a reverse warholian experience, the original (I Wanna Be With You) was better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 some of the tracks really have edge (for example Swine or Aura) and the lyrics are non-mainstream as well imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moebius 8,965 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, ARTnFAME said: ARTGOD slayed every performance, cause ARTGOD slays Sometimes some performances were over the top, but at least every Outfit was pure fire talent The Most Popular Girls in School megarate is cancelled! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I struggle with this. Certainly there are many songs on the album that don't sound like anything else, so in many ways Gaga did develop her own sound here. However, I don't know if I would categorize that as "experimental." I think ARTPOP sits on the edge of that box. Lyrically it's not as layered in meaning as The Fame and The Fame Monster, nor is it as deep and meaningful as Born This Way. Musically it does stand on it's own as a sound more than the other albums, but I can't bring myself to view it as something truly experimental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne 4,490 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 ARTPOP, with Aura put together a trance producer (Infected Mushroom) and pop together. You can't go any more experimental than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 ARTPOP was meant to be a unique and experimental album, but I expect what came out to be actually 10% of what was meant to be. Was the album unique? Aura used the instrumental of an already existing song, Venus took the beat of two already existing songs, G.U.Y is very The Fame-ish, Sexxx Dreams is very TFM-ish, both Donatella and Mary Jane Holland recycled unknown songs instrumental, Applause is very similar to Just Dance and Poker Face, Gypsy is just another Hair/TEOG, and ARTPOP sounds a lot like Love You Like A Love Song (Selena Gomez). Dope is just a ballad, nothing unique. I'm not saying ARTPOP was not unique, but not her most original album apart from Jewels N Drugs, Do What U Want and MANiCURE (we can still argue about those though). The reason therefore is probably because Interscope wanted ARTPOP to be a commercial album, otherwise they could have included Partynauseous, Ratchet (a solo version), Brooklyn Nights, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic 12,177 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 In my opinion, I don't think it is as simple as that - meaning, I don't think you can tell, whether it's experimental or not, solely based on either the album alone, or the performances/outfits alone. I think the two things goes hand in hand. That the album wouldn't make sense without the performances and that the performances wouldn't make sense, if you didn't have the album, the concept, in the back of your head. I really think those two things are what creates ARTPOP, what creates the experience - what makes it whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Colli 230 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Though ARTPOP (song) might sound average in terms of song structure, I find the production and specially the lyrics really out there, they just sound from another planet somehow. ARTPOP (album) has many of those moments, it really is like a trip into Gaga's mind and world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Colli 230 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Also she said that Act 1 was electronic pop at its most frenzy and fun and that Act 2 if it ever existed, was more weird and experimental. Let's keep in mind that this release plan was plan A before everything went wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, Aced said: name 1 song that is similar to swine/aura/mary jane holland. and dont come to me with kink by infected mushroom. i know that she sampled it For me personally though, that is just it: a lot of the album is just samples with her voice stuck over it. Examples Aura Spoiler MJH Spoiler Donatella Spoiler And I'm ok with samples like Venus where it is done cleverly, but taking the instrumental and putting a voice over the top isn't really experimental. And the other half of the album has lots of songs that sound similar to other stuff already out there. Swine Spoiler MANi(buythe)CURE(onitunes) Spoiler DWUW Spoiler I'm not trying to say these are the same or copied, It's clear that they're not, but just pointing out that the sounds aren't unique or experimental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluto 776 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I don't think it's very experimental at all. A few tracks are unique and different, maybe Venus and the title track. anybody knows you can conjure anything by the dark of the moon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,842 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 It really isn't that experimental at all. Aura and MJH are the exceptions. It's just experimental by mainstream pop standards. Females were being really generic or ordinary in 2013. Adele, Miley, Katy, Taylor, even Beyonce to an extent. They were all making music that was standard. Katy in particular was playing it extremely safe with Prism. To have Gaga's album released the very next month made her look totally weird and ugly next to cool and pretty Katy. In a time when pop was safe, AP really pushed the boundaries and people didn't like it. But at the end of the day, BTW is still totally the more experimental album. I was just listening to some tracks from it today and it really reminded me of how big the love/hate factor is with this album. I love it but 100% understand why some people hated it. There was so much buyer's remorse with that album, let's not mess about. That's why AP had a big dip in sales. It wasn't that it was even more experimental, it's just that it wasn't generic and that's all it took for the public to continue being too wary to buy any more albums from her. A lot of the biggest popstars have that album in their discography that could have ended their career (or did end it, in the case of some). Gaga is very lucky to have come back from this. A longer break between AP and now, a lack of promo and bad business decisions would have guaranteed her a place in obscurity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 It's her least experimental album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiU 2,194 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Honestly, I think it was Gaga trying to sell pop music as something else. I still love it though, and there are some experimental standouts in the album (Venus, title track, MJH) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smother Em Eh 7,125 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, Panchecco said: the theme and concept it's very unique and experimental the music not so much execpt maybe the title track Aura and Venus are unique songs, which I haven't heard any songs like them from the other pop girls! Get Applause & G.U.Y to 1B views! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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