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YaaaasGaga
2 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

Reviews are just the opinions of critics, which we may or may not agree with. How many critically acclaimed albums do you like? how many critical panned works do you also like? see? no relation.

Sales are just the opinions of others, which we may or may not agree with. How many best-selling albums do you like? how many not-so best-selling works do you also like? see? no relation. :trollga:

If your entire discography of music you like, appreciate or rave about is purely based on sales and comparing to other artists then you need to go and have a quiet word with yourself in the corner hun. 

 

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48 minutes ago, calmar said:

Maybe they're waiting until Monday or something? Today is a Catholic holiday that Gaga's likely busy celebrating with family, they may be planning a slightly different Coachella performance for next week, etc. I'd give it a few days.

get the non-christians on the computers. to upload it

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4 minutes ago, YaaaasGaga said:

Sales are just the opinions of others, which we may or may not agree with. How many best-selling albums do you like? how many not-so best-selling works do you also like? see? no relation. :trollga:

If your entire discography of music you like, appreciate or rave about is purely based on sales and comparing to other artists then you need to go and have a quiet word with yourself in the corner hun. 

 

It's funny how I was actually writing a mature response to the original poster and all you're capable of using in an argument is high school terms like "sit down", "sit in the corner". What's next? die in a fire? drink bleach, you piece of turd? LOL.

No, you don't get to flip that around, because there are many more buyers than there are reviewers. Adele's 25 sold like 20 million copies if not a lot more, but it didn't get 20 millions reviews, and you're not gonna count the reviews by the people around you, because that's a limited circle. But when you said X artist sold 15 million copies, you immediately know that approximately 15 million people liked that album enough to pay for it.

I don't even mean to compare to other singers, but compare Joanne to her past albums. It's a far cry from being as memorable or as commercially successful. It's okay if you love it so much or want to tell the world that you do. But no one can deny that Joanne was nowhere near what Gaga used to be in BTW and TFM era.

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Robagaga

First of all, the amount of generalizations you have been making my dear Givenchy are unreal, you can't say "I didn't assume the opinion of the world" after saying in a previous post:

40 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

 she made an album that didn't yield one memorable song or video, and the world hated it and neither her fans nor the general public liked it, especially when you compare it to her past success.

Secondly does it look like a give a twirly wirly that the songs I mentioned aren't singles? They are memorable songs that will be part of the world of gaga for years to come. If you were talking about memorable in the sense of chart success (which is all that seems to matter to you and many other fans) Million reasons has been charting for sooooooooooooo long it has almost reached criminal proportions. 

Lastly I just want to state that noone on this site is going to tell you that Joanne was a bigger hit than the fame monster or Born this Way. It is going to be very hard for Lady gaga to top those past succeses simply because they were sooooo big. However it is ignorant and foolish to say: "IT WAS A FLOP" "IT FAILED" "NO ONE LIKED IT" because that is simply not true. 

You are entitled to your opinion that is fine. If you hate every single song on Joanne, good for you. That is your opinion. Just dont make ignorant extrapolations like you have been doing this whole thread and frankly like you have been doing during your whole gagadaily existance, since you joined 4 hours ago. 

Thats the last I'll say of this

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YaaaasGaga
1 minute ago, Givenchy said:

No, you don't get to flip that around, because there are many more buyers than there are reviewers. Adele's 25 sold like 20 million copies if not a lot more, but it didn't get 20 millions reviews, and you're not gonna count the reviews by the people around you, because that's a limited circle. But when you said X artist sold 15 million copies, you immediately know that approximately 15 million people liked that album enough to pay for it.

I don't even mean to compare to other singers, but compare Joanne to her past albums. It's a far cry from being as memorable or as commercially successful. It's okay if you love it so much or want to tell the world that you do. But no one can deny that Joanne was nowhere near what Gaga used to be in BTW and TFM era.

Music is art, and art isn't created for SALES. If something sells well, good for them, but again sales and quality are not mutually exclusive. There's so much trash out there that sells amazingly, doesn't mean it's any good. There's thousands of songs released every year, by big 'popular' artists and by independent artists; just because the independent artist doesn't sell as much as the 'popular' artist doesn't in any way mean their music is worse, in a lot of cases it can be better. You are clearly equating sales with quality of music, and they do not relate at all. Joanne is my favourite album of hers, and there are many others on and off this site who cite this work above some of her past work. You're saying the album was universal hated and wasn't successful chart wise or well received with no memorable songs and there are countless sources that will say otherwise, sources that count for more than your opinion does that, again, does not speak for anyone but yourself.

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2 minutes ago, YaaaasGaga said:

Music is art, and art isn't created for SALES. If something sells well, good for them, but again sales and quality are not mutually exclusive. There's so much trash out there that sells amazingly, doesn't mean it's any good. There's thousands of songs released every year, by big 'popular' artists and by independent artists; just because the independent artist doesn't sell as much as the 'popular' artist doesn't in any way mean their music is worse, in a lot of cases it can be better. You are clearly equating sales with quality of music, and they do not relate at all. Joanne is my favourite album of hers, and there are many others on and off this site who cite this work above some of her past work. You're saying the album was universal hated and wasn't successful chart wise or well received with no memorable songs and there are countless sources that will say otherwise, sources that count for more than your opinion does that, again, does not speak for anyone but yourself.

#staypressed

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1 minute ago, Robagaga said:

First of all, the amount of generalizations you have been making my dear Givenchy are unreal, you can't say "I didn't assume the opinion of the world" after saying in a previous post:

Secondly does it look like a give a twirly wirly that the songs I mentioned aren't singles? They are memorable songs that will be part of the world of gaga for years to come. If you were talking about memorable in the sense of chart success (which is all that seems to matter to you and many other fans) Million reasons has been charting for sooooooooooooo long it has almost reached criminal proportions. 

Lastly I just want to state that noone on this site is going to tell you that Joanne was a bigger hit than the fame monster or Born this Way. It is going to be very hard for Lady gaga to top those past succeses simply because they were sooooo big. However it is ignorant and foolish to say: "IT WAS A FLOP" "IT FAILED" "NO ONE LIKED IT" because that is simply not true. 

You are entitled to your opinion that is fine. If you hate every single song on Joanne, good for you. That is your opinion. Just dont make ignorant extrapolations like you have been doing this whole thread and frankly like you have been doing during your whole gagadaily existance, since you joined 4 hours ago. 

Thats the last I'll say of this

:lolly:

I didn't assume the opinion of the world because it's obvious from the album sales. The sales aren't what makes me like or dislike a song, but speaking of her decisions to release The Cure and the comment the OP made regarding her "sacrificing her uniqueness by going trendy" is most likely influenced by the less than expected response to Joanne among fans and others.

I didn't wait it flopped or failed. I did say no one liked and explained later that fewer people liked it and some suddenly started to say "it's better than her past generic music" which is obviously an attempt to make her look better, because before, they didn't call her "generic" they called her special, and now that she made an album that others did not like, they started putting the past hits down to make the new album look better.

Million Reasons has been charting for too long because it was being promoted for too long and it had a Super Bowl performance long after its release. So it's to be expected. Yet still, it didn't push the album commercially anywhere near her past albums or the hits of the year.

My entire conversation was about why she shifted to the new style with The Cure. Please go back and read what I said before judging my words. I personally don't give a damn whether something charts or not, and most of the songs I listen to are stuff nobody ever heard of. But when talking about why Gaga "sacrificed her uniqueness for a trendy song", she did because she wanted something to resonate, because she isn't singing for charity, because Joanne's success was not enough for her and her label, even if it seems big enough for you, which is why she made something before her tour and she didn't take the chance to release a new single before the Super Bowl because she obviously didn't see it working any way and decided to make something that may resonate, even after saying that she's done making hits.

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Dawson

A week to build streams and release video next week?

Million Reasons (Audio) and video having 50m split didn't do much favours

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12 minutes ago, YaaaasGaga said:

1. Music is art, and art isn't created for SALES. If something sells well, good for them, but again sales and quality are not mutually exclusive. 2. There's so much trash out there that sells amazingly, doesn't mean it's any good. There's thousands of songs released every year, by big 'popular' artists and by independent artists; 3. just because the independent artist doesn't sell as much as the 'popular' artist doesn't in any way mean their music is worse, in a lot of cases it can be better. 4. You are clearly equating sales with quality of music, and they do not relate at all. Joanne is my favourite album of hers, and there are many others on and off this site who cite this work above some of her past work. 5. You're saying the album was universal hated and wasn't successful chart wise or well received with no memorable songs and there are countless sources that will say otherwise, sources that count for more than your opinion does that, again, 6. does not speak for anyone but yourself.

7. #staypressed

1. No one said that it is.

2. Personal opinon, not a fact. And it's very subjective, and might, sometimes. People online even use it as an excuse to attack other singers.

3. Again, no one said tat. 

4. I'm not. I was talking about why she possibly changed direction to a more "trendy" sound as the OP suggested in his/her response to me. I wasn't evaluating it as a piece of art.

5. That's not really a point, because one can always argue with and against that. 

6. I spoke based on hard facts. Not feelings. The album sold less than her past albums and even her videos didn't come close to being as loved and admired as her past ones, let alone the views she got for them, that's WITH a Superbowl performance.

7. No one is pressed over a music album. It's a music album, nothing more and nothing less. And sharing an opinion is hardly jealously, anger or hatred.

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9 minutes ago, Givenchy said:

I didn't assume the opinion of the world because it's obvious from the album sales. The sales aren't what makes me like or dislike a song, but speaking of her decisions to release The Cure and the comment the OP made regarding her "sacrificing her uniqueness by going trendy" is most likely influenced by the less than expected response to Joanne among fans and others.

I didn't wait it flopped or failed. I did say no one liked and explained later that fewer people liked it and some suddenly started to say "it's better than her past generic music" which is obviously an attempt to make her look better, because before, they didn't call her "generic" they called her special, and now that she made an album that others did not like, they started putting the past hits down to make the new album look better.

Million Reasons has been charting for too long because it was being promoted for too long and it had a Super Bowl performance long after its release. So it's to be expected. Yet still, it didn't push the album commercially anywhere near her past albums or the hits of the year.

My entire conversation was about why she shifted to the new style with The Cure. Please go back and read what I said before judging my words. I personally don't give a damn whether something charts or not, and most of the songs I listen to are stuff nobody ever heard of. But when talking about why Gaga "sacrificed her uniqueness for a trendy song", she did because she wanted something to resonate, because she isn't singing for charity, because Joanne's success was not enough for her and her label, even if it seems big enough for you, which is why she made something before her tour and she didn't take the chance to release a new single before the Super Bowl because she obviously didn't see it working any way and decided to make something that may resonate, even after saying that she's done making hits.

Ok, thats fine, I am done discussing with you if you can admit that you made a mistake by using such huge terms. 

Reread your posts and you can see why a few of us got angry from your posts. 

General extrapolations and assuming other peoples opinions is bound to get people annoyed. 

I totally agree with the second part of this post, and never said the contrary. She and her label want a hit, but because she has been around for so long the novelty has worn off and it becomes harder and harder for her to make as many sales. Apart from that, less and less people are buying albums in general.  

Can we be done with this discussion and can you get off your pedestal of all knowledge, its frankly exhausting

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YaaaasGaga
2 minutes ago, Robagaga said:

Ok, thats fine, I am done discussing with you if you can admit that you made a mistake by using such huge terms. 

Reread your posts and you can see why a few of us got angry from your posts. 

General extrapolations and assuming other peoples opinions is bound to get people annoyed. 

I totally agree with the second part of this post, and never said the contrary. She and her label want a hit, but because she has been around for so long the novelty has worn off and it becomes harder and harder for her to make as many sales. Apart from that, less and less people are buying albums in general.  

Can we be done with this discussion and can you get off your pedestal of all knowledge, its frankly exhausting

Slay those little chartsters

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5 minutes ago, Robagaga said:

1. Ok, thats fine, I am done discussing with you if you can admit that you made a mistake by using such huge terms. 

2. Reread your posts and you can see why a few of us got angry from your posts. 

3. General extrapolations and assuming other peoples opinions is bound to get people annoyed. 

4. I totally agree with the second part of this post, and never said the contrary. She and her label want a hit, but because she has been around for so long the novelty has worn off and it becomes harder and harder for her to make as many sales. Apart from that, less and less people are buying albums in general.  

5. Can we be done with this discussion its frankly exhausting

1. I didn't make a mistake. You made a mistake by not reading what I said originally and entered the conversation halfway through just because somebody said something you don't like to hear about an album you like.

2. Done. Nothing's wrong with them, if you read them all in the order they were posted, and in their right context.

3. They're entitled to their own exaggerations and annoyances. 

4. That we can agree upon, indeed. And that was entirely my point. And yes, people are buying albums less and less and leaning more towards streaming, whether it's on Apple Music, Spotify or even YouTube videos and illegal downloads. However, there are still artists who still significantly sell and get streamed more than others, which is why she likely decided to go back to making more pop-oriented dancey music.

5. Feel free. In fact, I thought the last post was the last you were gonna say according to what you wrote.

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1 hour ago, ChaosAngelX69 said:

Bc Gaga just totally sacrificed a piece of her uniqueness image by going trendy, and it'll be totally ****ing embarrassing if it flops. 

She's #1 in 60 COUNTRIES. 

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It' s Easter Sunday. Report the illegal uploads to her label if you want, but they probably will be there until Monday and her label probably won't upload it until Monday.

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