Morphine Prince 110,019 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 How can Russia alone veto it? Do the countries not vote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: How can Russia alone veto it? Do the countries not vote? Russia has a permanent seat on the UNSC, it only takes one veto from a member with a permanent seat for it to take effect. - This was completely expected, Russia would never allow UN intervention in Syria. Just like it has vetoed every other attempt of intervention to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Saint Laurent said: Russia has a permanent seat on the UNSC, it only takes one veto from a member with a permanent seat for it to take effect. That's stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: That's stupid Kind of makes sense though, if Russia's vote was disregarded, the whole thing would escalate to World War level. The 5 permanent seats are hold by those who 'won' WWII, since it is perceived that they are the most powerful nations and are 'protecting the peace' of the world in some way. Clearly this is false, but it's the law so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 There is precedent for intervention to still take place though, despite Russia's veto. It would just have to be without UNSC authorisation. If the situation becomes worse, this will likely happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: Kind of makes sense though, if Russia's vote was disregarded, the whole thing would escalate to World War level. The 5 permanent seats are hold by those who 'won' WWII, since it is perceived that they are the most powerful nations and are 'protecting the peace' of the world in some way. Clearly this is false, but it's the law so. I don't like how one nation can veto, I think there should be a way to override the veto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: I don't like how one nation can veto, I think there should be a way to override the veto. There kind of is, NATO has been known to act without UNSC authorisation. There has been little consequence when this has happened before, but the situation would have to become far worse. In other instances millions have died. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Shocking. 5 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I don't like how one nation can veto, I think there should be a way to override the veto. This is what the US does for Israel ALL THE TIME. Just one example. That's why this was big news http://bigstory.ap.org/article/430f1f3c6f6f404f87e90cfdb0032b1c/official-israel-turned-trump-head-un-resolution Check this list https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetos_exercised_by_the_US_government_in_the_UN_Security_Council FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No surprise to be honest, predictable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,625 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said: Russia has a permanent seat on the UNSC, it only takes one veto from a member with a permanent seat for it to take effect. - This was completely expected, Russia would never allow UN intervention in Syria. Just like it has vetoed every other attempt of intervention to date. I never understood this system chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, littlepotter said: I never understood this system Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 34 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said: Kind of makes sense though, if Russia's vote was disregarded, the whole thing would escalate to World War level. The 5 permanent seats are hold by those who 'won' WWII, since it is perceived that they are the most powerful nations and are 'protecting the peace' of the world in some way. Clearly this is false, but it's the law so. But France is a permanent member & they were conquered/occupied during WWII??!?? And China wasn't even involved during WWII, if I remember correctly... Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: But France is a permanent member & they were conquered/occupied during WWII??!?? And China wasn't even involved during WWII, if I remember correctly... France was liberated during WWII and was on the side of the victors, hence their permanent seat. You're very wrong about China actually. China fought Japan for 15 years during the wars and lost a lot of men doing so (14 million I believe?), hence their permanent seat. The remaining 3 are fairly obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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