Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, En_Sabah_Nur said: You do if the whole transition teams seems to all be communicating or meeting with Russian officials, which seems to be the case so far... Great point. I guess Obama did it just to make sure he wasnt up to something with Russia. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: You do if the whole transition teams seems to all be communicating or meeting with Russian officials, which seems to be the case so far... The hilarious thing is that all of the evidence people like GagaMonster use to pretend like the Trump team was unreasonably/illegally targeted is actually evidence that they broke the law... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: I quoted what the article said. "....such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters, and plans for the incoming administration." And I doubt it was 'accidental'. Give me a break, you just don't accidentally pick up the entire Transition team. I don't support Trump, but I do support a Democratic transition of power Your "doubt" does NOT justify naming this thread "Top Obama Adviser Spies On Trump Associates"! Are you kidding?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, stvn said: Please stop making baseless claims, it is irresponsible. Your theory has been debunked a million times. Based on the information we currently have, there is no evidence of what you're saying. Period. It was incidental, and the fact that it was picked up puts anyone who was picked up in a very precarious situation. Do you know what a fisa warrant is? There are rules/courts that govern what is allowed when it comes to intelligence collection. There is no evidence that any rules were broken, period. The fact that so many of Trump's team were picked up is NOT evidence of a conspiracy against them but rather evidence that they were all involved in something totally nefarious. Remember, there is an active FBI investigation into the Trump team's collusion with Russia. This absolutely explains why so many Trumpers were picked up in incidental collection. President Obama could not have tapped Trump's phones unilaterally. That doesn't happen. You are right. I guess it was just too make sure there was nothing going on between them and Russia. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, MJHolland said: Your "doubt" does NOT justify naming this thread "Top Obama Adviser Spies On Trump Associates"! Are you kidding?! I am going to change it now to the title of the Bloomberg article GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: You are right. I guess it was just too make sure there was nothing going on between them and Russia. Also, the "whole transition team" wasn't "picked up". We are talking about a select number of individuals who talked with shady foreign officials we happened to be surveilling, PLUS the identities of those Trump officials were immediately sealed and protected from being known. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 I apologize for this mess At least it is not messier than the Trump Administration I reread the article and understand GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Great point. I guess Obama did it just to make sure he wasnt up to something with Russia. You're still not fully getting it. OBAMA didn't do it. The intelligence agencies did, and they don't take orders from Obama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: I apologize for this mess At least it is not messier than the Trump Administration Thank you for being open enough to change your mind. It's very important in the age of alternative facts that we don't believe talking points over facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, stvn said: You're still not fully getting it. OBAMA didn't do it. The intelligence agencies did, and they don't take orders from Obama. Oh ok. I didnt realize. My specialty is not Intelligence, more Economics and Health Care, so I apologize for not understanding correctly. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: I apologize for this mess At least it is not messier than the Trump Administration It's no problem! I don't blame you at all for any misunderstandings. We have a president (plus some in his White House) who actively tries to misguide and mislead the public into believing falsehoods and claims which have no evidence or bearing in reality. I think the media is having a really hard time right now actually just reporting the facts because they keep repeating Trump's bogus claims. As a community we should collectively make an honest effort to separate fact from opinion, which is what I was trying to do in my long post on page 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, MJHolland said: It's no problem! I don't blame you at all for any misunderstandings. We have a president (plus some in his White House) who actively tries to misguide and mislead the public into believing falsehoods and claims which have no evidence or bearing in reality. I think the media is having a really hard time right now actually just reporting the facts because they keep repeating Trump's bogus claims. As a community we should collectively make an honest effort to separate fact from opinion, which is what I was trying to do in my long post on page 2. Thank you guys for taking the time and fully explaining everything, it really helps! You are defiantly right, I was watching the news and saw Kellyanne Conway explain 'Clean Coal', I don't think I ever cringed harder watching her explain Trumps success with energy GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Again, I don't support Trump anymore, I am no way inclined to right something positive about him, I am just trying to make sure the Politics section is not bias towards Democrats. Now, you are just bring over false facts and fake news. Maybe stop getting news from T_D and crazy sites...that might help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, Whispering said: Yeah, right...just like you "didn't support Trump" last November on. Now, you are just bring over false facts and fake news. I apologized and thanked every member for explaining it for me. I don't support Trump anymore. I did support him in November, I stopped supporting him last week. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: I apologized and thanked every member for explaining it for me. I don't support Trump anymore. I did support him in November, I stopped supporting him last week. Yeah, I was on the first page, so edited my comment. Doesnt really matter, you supported a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, lying, climate denying conspiracy theoroist. The only thing that has changed is his health insurance wasn't terrible enough for you and the crazy Freedom Caucus. You still support the crazy coming from the GOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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