kennji 546 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 hours ago, FRANZGA said: the overreaction of some pinoys here are really showing their TRUE colors.. DUTERTE is a mess, a big mess.. but saying that it sucks living here compared before is a big lie.. Duterte kills (DRUGLORDS) no problem with that.. Duterte ties with Russia and China, very big problem with that.. DUTERTE curses the CHURCH.. well CHURCH is hypocrite, so.. Duterte is a leftist, CHECK.. Duterte loves minorities, CHECK.. Duterte's ego is off the roof, big X.. Duterte's cult is the worst, but the yellowtards aren't better either.. Duterte is a MESS, but lemme focus to his good deeds for now.. since all of his opponents last election are much WORSE bar queen MIRIAM.. but his supporters are really getting worse.. 1. He does not kill drug lords; he let the biggest one out of the country. 2. He lets his police kill small-time pushers, suspects and even those with the tiniest shred of evidence. 3. Yes, there is a problem with killing because it is illegal. At this point, it still is. 4. Killing drug users and pushers does not eliminate the prevalence of drugs or criminality. 5. Regarding ties with China, it is problematic since his sentiments lean heavily towards surrendering our national sovereignty to China. read: Panatag Shoal, Benham Rise. 6. Duterte is not a leftist. All his policies do not align with progressive socio-economic reforms. He represents the same oligarchic system with different players. He has done little to improve worker conditions. He does not assist in land reform (The Agrarian Reform department is struggling because of the resistance of money-backed landlords with hired, armed goons. 7. Can you qualify how he loves minorities? I'm going to use this word in the broadest sense and use it to mean any marginalized sector in the country. women: he is a rape enabler and sexist. indigenous people: under his rule, the military is still ransacking farmlands in the provinces, mining communities, and Lumad-owned land, schools and communities. LGBT: he is against gay marriage. the poor: his war on drugs is anti-poor, treats the poor as collateral damage and does not address the root causes of drug use (education, limited working opportunities, low quality of life in slums) and has periodically let big time drug lords go, as well as pardon erring police who have used violence to implement this war on drugs. 8. "Yellowtards aren't better" Yes you're right. but when a president's campaign rides on promising change, why do his supporters endlessly say that the previous administration fares no better or does the same? 9. "his opponents are much worse" True, but a president who supports and endorses murder, rape and gender discrimination can't be the least of all evils, can he? 10. You can criticize the church, but what kind of leader openly disrespects the pope and the rest of the religion, while in the same breath uses the church to defend his actions? Throw the word "hypocrite" around as much as you like, but by all means, please don't be selective. I hate the church and its leaders here in the country, but that does not discredit nor invalidate their arguments; that is a logical fallacy. 11. "Focus on his good deeds now" These deeds are on top of an 8,000-strong body pile. What is the cost of these deeds? How many lives does thus war on drugs have to claim before we say "enough is enough?" Look, a president doing good things does not prevent his constituents to lambaste the bad. "His good deeds," whatever they may be, do not give him a free pass to make one bad decision if it means that a lot of people will suffer. 4 hours ago, FRANZGA said: cause all I read is bad, a good critic never focuses in one side.. so it's just like the liberals in US to TRUMP.. but in PH Duterte got 80percent of the crowd. but Duterte's cult really is the WORST atm.. The definition of a good critic does not rely on which aspect he or she chooses to criticize. Rather, it is through intelligent arguments backed with concrete data or real-life examples. Duterte does not have "80 percent of the crowd." The votes he garnered were not even a majority (50% +1). He may have an ~80 percent approval rating, if that's what you're referring to, but that was from a pool of 1,200 respondents and was conducted in December last year. Hundreds have been killed, then. The reinstatement of death penalty looms, and his cronies are eyeing lowering the age of criminal responsibility from 15 to nine. Match my responses with tangible examples and maybe you'll get a reply because you sound exactly the same as the yellowtards you despise. Stick to Facebook anonymous profiles, maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, kennji said: 1. He does not kill drug lords; he let the biggest one out of the country. 2. He lets his police kill small-time pushers, suspects and even those with the tiniest shred of evidence. 3. Yes, there is a problem with killing because it is illegal. At this point, it still is. 4. Killing drug users and pushers does not eliminate the prevalence of drugs or criminality. 5. Regarding ties with China, it is problematic since his sentiments lean heavily towards surrendering our national sovereignty to China. read: Panatag Shoal, Benham Rise. 6. Duterte is not a leftist. All his policies do not align with progressive socio-economic reforms. He represents the same oligarchic system with different players. He has done little to improve worker conditions. He does not assist in land reform (The Agrarian Reform department is struggling because of the resistance of money-backed landlords with hired, armed goons. 7. Can you qualify how he loves minorities? I'm going to use this word in the broadest sense and use it to mean any marginalized sector in the country. women: he is a rape enabler and sexist. indigenous people: under his rule, the military is still ransacking farmlands in the provinces, mining communities, and Lumad-owned land, schools and communities. LGBT: he is against gay marriage. the poor: his war on drugs is anti-poor, treats the poor as collateral damage and does not address the root causes of drug use (education, limited working opportunities, low quality of life in slums) and has periodically let big time drug lords go, as well as pardon erring police who have used violence to implement this war on drugs. 8. "Yellowtards aren't better" Yes you're right. but when a president's campaign rides on promising change, why do his supporters endlessly say that the previous administration fares no better or does the same? 9. "his opponents are much worse" True, but a president who supports and endorses murder, rape and gender discrimination can't be the least of all evils, can he? 10. You can criticize the church, but what kind of leader openly disrespects the pope and the rest of the religion, while in the same breath uses the church to defend his actions? Throw the word "hypocrite" around as much as you like, but by all means, please don't be selective. I hate the church and its leaders here in the country, but that does not discredit nor invalidate their arguments; that is a logical fallacy. 11. "Focus on his good deeds now" These deeds are on top of an 8,000-strong body pile. What is the cost of these deeds? How many lives does thus war on drugs have to claim before we say "enough is enough?" Look, a president doing good things does not prevent his constituents to lambaste the bad. "His good deeds," whatever they may be, do not give him a free pass to make one bad decision if it means that a lot of people will suffer. The definition of a good critic does not rely on which aspect he or she chooses to criticize. Rather, it is through intelligent arguments backed with concrete data or real-life examples. Duterte does not have "80 percent of the crowd." The votes he garnered were not even a majority (50% +1). He may have an ~80 percent approval rating, if that's what you're referring to, but that was from a pool of 1,200 respondents and was conducted in December last year. Hundreds have been killed, then. The reinstatement of death penalty looms, and his cronies are eyeing lowering the age of criminal responsibility from 15 to nine. Match my responses with tangible examples and maybe you'll get a reply because you sound exactly the same as the yellowtards you despise. Stick to Facebook anonymous profiles, maybe. thanks for the long post.. but you're aware of course that 80percent to 90percent is Duterte's trust rating right.. and votes from election is impressive garnering 41% with 5-6 candidates.. and that we can't say that 59% of it is against DUTERTE.. since there's a 2nd or 3rd option.. we're not in the US with only 2 strong candidates.. and the surveys and ratings of Duterte so far is well-loved by majority of the Filipino people.. bakit ba idedeny yan,, napka'obvious naman... 1. Pa'no mo nasabing wala syang pinatay na big drug lord?? Mayor ng Albuera leyte?? Delima "where's she now?", yung KOREAN.. damn, i know dinedeny ni Duterte pero may basbas nya yon for sure.. pag may big fish na victim, sasbhin not true, politics, staged.. pag mahhrap ssabihin EJK.. goodness i knew a judge from our locale killed for being a DRUG LORD.. killing druglords is extra, true but 80% FILIPINOS felt safer because of it.. at asan evidence mo na pinpatakas nya DRUG LORDS?? 2. killing druglords po ay di na bago, as far as i can remember sa lugar namin kay PNOY pa time may natitigok na mga drug pushers kahit mga small time lang.. may mga INTEL, vigilante, pati yong mga big time mismo na kusang tumitira para ptahmikan yong small time.. mas open nga lang at garapalan nga lang ngayon.. patayan ay part na sa buhay natin.. pero di ba mas mabuti na kung may mamatay man ay yong masasama na lang din.. kesa naman yong nirape at sinaksak ng mga adik. 3. I hate Duterte sa view nya sa China, parang ibibgay na nya yong WEST PHILIPPINE SEA. p*ta and yeah you can drag him to the pits for that.. masyadong mataas yong ego nya pag icocorrect sya ng ibang ORGS.. another downside of him.. 4. he said he's LEFTIST tho.. but we'll still have years to see 5. he loves minorities.. bakit nya pinoprotektahan ang mga lumad sa mindanao and the sorts.. and how is he anti-poor?? just because of WAR on DRUGS?? 6. Criticize his mouth, y'all have the floor.. isa ako s mga pinoy na inis na inis sa BUNGANGA nya.. 7. The Church is THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY EVER .. i'm actually glad that he may be the 1st president to be openly agnostic. Like WAKE UP PEOPLE.. 8. Take it this way, you kill a drug pusher.. you frightened the whole industry you save lots of youngsters.. You save a drug pusher.. you save his soul yet the drug industry isn't shaking.. lots of youngsters will be into it.. they won't even mind as they knew there's this CHR who'll protect them.. 9. I'm getting tired with this Duterte admin tho cause it's starting to be politics as it was before him.. same with PNOY, PGMA and before them.. may maganda silang projects pero yong common denomintor. papalakas s partido at paninira sa kalaban.. pnkamgaliing jan ang LP.. yon na lang yong nkikita ko ngyon.. di n nkafocus sa PUBLIC SERVICE. 10. politics is politics.. PGMA, PNOY or DIGONG man yan.. palaging may bad press yan plagi at titirahin ng titirahin ng mga anti's yan plagi.. same with Democs vs Repubs in US.. pero dapat mag focus sa mga nagawa.. and Digong is a man on action.. yong pabahay sa Yolanda, Infrastractures "MEGA INFRASTRUCTURES" sa buong Pilipinas esp. mindanao, pagpapatino sa cabinet at mga pulis, ECONOMY ' di sya magaling dito "... "ENVIRONMENTAL ACTS - tnx to LOPEZ", "free EDUCATION sa state Universities, papataas ng sahod at yong tax sa sahod".. "action nya sa telecom companies".., WAR ON DRUGS.. at mrmi pang iba.. medyo di ako sang ayon sa DEATH PENALTY but that's it.. 11. His aim for FEDERALISM is still giving me hope tho... mas maganda kung umangat naman yong ibang provinces.. pero as of late, the direction of his governance is really going down in a steep slope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Algorithm said: Sure, Jan. God bless you. 80percent of the FILIPINO agreed with me.. we felt safer than before.. unless you use DRUGS.. I take this killing of drug lords and pushers over rapes, murders and destroying lives of innocents because of it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir the pot 3,824 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, FRANZGA said: 80percent of the FILIPINO agreed with me.. we felt safer than before.. unless you use DRUGS.. I take this killing of drug lords and pushers over rapes, murders and destroying lives of innocents because of it... That is beside the point. The point is killing is never good, no matter what angle you see it through. Yes the intention may be good (to end drugs), but THE END DOESN'T JUSTIFY THE MEANS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Just now, Algorithm said: That is beside the point. The point is killing is never good, no matter what angle you see it through. Yes the intention may be good (to end drugs), but THE END DOESN'T JUSTIFY THE MEANS. crimes and murders will be part of our lives anyway no matter who the leader is, so.. 8. Take it this way, you kill a drug pusher.. you frightened the whole industry you save lots of youngsters.. You save a drug pusher.. you save his soul yet the drug industry isn't shaking.. lots of youngsters will be into it.. they won't even mind as they knew there's this CHR who'll protect them.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir the pot 3,824 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, kennji said: 1. He does not kill drug lords; he let the biggest one out of the country. 2. He lets his police kill small-time pushers, suspects and even those with the tiniest shred of evidence. 3. Yes, there is a problem with killing because it is illegal. At this point, it still is. 4. Killing drug users and pushers does not eliminate the prevalence of drugs or criminality. 5. Regarding ties with China, it is problematic since his sentiments lean heavily towards surrendering our national sovereignty to China. read: Panatag Shoal, Benham Rise. 6. Duterte is not a leftist. All his policies do not align with progressive socio-economic reforms. He represents the same oligarchic system with different players. He has done little to improve worker conditions. He does not assist in land reform (The Agrarian Reform department is struggling because of the resistance of money-backed landlords with hired, armed goons. 7. Can you qualify how he loves minorities? I'm going to use this word in the broadest sense and use it to mean any marginalized sector in the country. women: he is a rape enabler and sexist. indigenous people: under his rule, the military is still ransacking farmlands in the provinces, mining communities, and Lumad-owned land, schools and communities. LGBT: he is against gay marriage. the poor: his war on drugs is anti-poor, treats the poor as collateral damage and does not address the root causes of drug use (education, limited working opportunities, low quality of life in slums) and has periodically let big time drug lords go, as well as pardon erring police who have used violence to implement this war on drugs. 8. "Yellowtards aren't better" Yes you're right. but when a president's campaign rides on promising change, why do his supporters endlessly say that the previous administration fares no better or does the same? 9. "his opponents are much worse" True, but a president who supports and endorses murder, rape and gender discrimination can't be the least of all evils, can he? 10. You can criticize the church, but what kind of leader openly disrespects the pope and the rest of the religion, while in the same breath uses the church to defend his actions? Throw the word "hypocrite" around as much as you like, but by all means, please don't be selective. I hate the church and its leaders here in the country, but that does not discredit nor invalidate their arguments; that is a logical fallacy. 11. "Focus on his good deeds now" These deeds are on top of an 8,000-strong body pile. What is the cost of these deeds? How many lives does thus war on drugs have to claim before we say "enough is enough?" Look, a president doing good things does not prevent his constituents to lambaste the bad. "His good deeds," whatever they may be, do not give him a free pass to make one bad decision if it means that a lot of people will suffer. Finally a very thorough explanation. But I bet close-minded people won't ever understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir the pot 3,824 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, FRANZGA said: crimes and murders will be part of our lives anyway no matter who the leader is, so.. 8. Take it this way, you kill a drug pusher.. you frightened the whole industry you save lots of youngsters.. You save a drug pusher.. you save his soul yet the drug industry isn't shaking.. lots of youngsters will be into it.. they won't even mind as they knew there's this CHR who'll protect them.. Again, the end doesn't justify the means. I'm done with this we're just goin' in circles here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Algorithm said: Again, the end doesn't justify the means. I'm done with this we're just goin' in circles here. yeah right.. cause as long as there's politics and political views there's THESE.. but that doesn't mean you should focus on the bad side of that person you don't like. try to look at the positive things too.. Then weigh how it affects the lives of the many.. FOR THE GREATER GOOD they say... not even in a year and here we are.. BYE/.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir the pot 3,824 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, FRANZGA said: yeah right.. cause as long as there's politics and political views there's THESE.. but that doesn't mean you should focus on the bad side of that person you don't like. try to look at the positive things too.. Then weigh how it affects the lives of the many.. FOR THE GREATER GOOD they say... not even in a year we are.. BYE/.. Duterte, my friend, has no good side. Okay he may have some, the trivial ones, but they don't reflect what he's doing with our country right now. So... slay I guess? lol and again, if you use bad means to earn a great end, the result will always be never be good. Bookmark me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 queen emma yees j.k should be high as well and yaas at gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANZGA 13,920 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Algorithm said: Duterte, my friend, has no good side. Okay he may have some, the trivial ones, but they don't reflect what he's doing with our country right now. So... slay I guess? lol and again, if you use bad means to earn a great end, the result will always be never be good. Bookmark me. now this is is your OPINION.. i wanna argue with the following statements but it's best to put it to stop.. We all have our views.. but it's best I guess to wait a whole term before CRITICIZE.. keep cute lil comments to particular issues, but that's it, not act like it's the end of the world. and well, there's that IMPEACHMENT.. if that succeeds then BE IT.. Good luck to another leader who'll be dragged to the pits in every misstep I guess.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir the pot 3,824 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, FRANZGA said: now this is is your OPINION.. i wanna argue with the following statements but it's best to put it to stop.. We all have our views.. but it's best I guess to wait a whole term before CRITICIZE.. keep cute lil comments to particular issues, but that's it, not act like it's the end of the world. and well, there's that IMPEACHMENT.. if that succeeds then BE IT.. Good luck to another leader who'll be dragged to the pits in every misstep I guess.. Haven't we been expressing our opinions since we got this started? Anyway, I doubt he's getting impeached. He has already control over Congress. Check and balance is derailed. 28 minutes ago, FRANZGA said: Good luck to another leader who'll be dragged by the online trolls to the pits in every misstep I guess.. fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kennji 546 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 hours ago, FRANZGA said: thanks for the long post.. but you're aware of course that 80percent to 90percent is Duterte's trust rating right.. and votes from election is impressive garnering 41% with 5-6 candidates.. and that we can't say that 59% of it is against DUTERTE.. since there's a 2nd or 3rd option.. we're not in the US with only 2 strong candidates.. and the surveys and ratings of Duterte so far is well-loved by majority of the Filipino people.. bakit ba idedeny yan,, napka'obvious naman... 1. Pa'no mo nasabing wala syang pinatay na big drug lord?? Mayor ng Albuera leyte?? Delima "where's she now?", yung KOREAN.. damn, i know dinedeny ni Duterte pero may basbas nya yon for sure.. pag may big fish na victim, sasbhin not true, politics, staged.. pag mahhrap ssabihin EJK.. goodness i knew a judge from our locale killed for being a DRUG LORD.. killing druglords is extra, true but 80% FILIPINOS felt safer because of it.. at asan evidence mo na pinpatakas nya DRUG LORDS?? 2. killing druglords po ay di na bago, as far as i can remember sa lugar namin kay PNOY pa time may natitigok na mga drug pushers kahit mga small time lang.. may mga INTEL, vigilante, pati yong mga big time mismo na kusang tumitira para ptahmikan yong small time.. mas open nga lang at garapalan nga lang ngayon.. patayan ay part na sa buhay natin.. pero di ba mas mabuti na kung may mamatay man ay yong masasama na lang din.. kesa naman yong nirape at sinaksak ng mga adik. 3. I hate Duterte sa view nya sa China, parang ibibgay na nya yong WEST PHILIPPINE SEA. p*ta and yeah you can drag him to the pits for that.. masyadong mataas yong ego nya pag icocorrect sya ng ibang ORGS.. another downside of him.. 4. he said he's LEFTIST tho.. but we'll still have years to see 5. he loves minorities.. bakit nya pinoprotektahan ang mga lumad sa mindanao and the sorts.. and how is he anti-poor?? just because of WAR on DRUGS?? 6. Criticize his mouth, y'all have the floor.. isa ako s mga pinoy na inis na inis sa BUNGANGA nya.. 7. The Church is THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY EVER .. i'm actually glad that he may be the 1st president to be openly agnostic. Like WAKE UP PEOPLE.. 8. Take it this way, you kill a drug pusher.. you frightened the whole industry you save lots of youngsters.. You save a drug pusher.. you save his soul yet the drug industry isn't shaking.. lots of youngsters will be into it.. they won't even mind as they knew there's this CHR who'll protect them.. 9. I'm getting tired with this Duterte admin tho cause it's starting to be politics as it was before him.. same with PNOY, PGMA and before them.. may maganda silang projects pero yong common denomintor. papalakas s partido at paninira sa kalaban.. pnkamgaliing jan ang LP.. yon na lang yong nkikita ko ngyon.. di n nkafocus sa PUBLIC SERVICE. 10. politics is politics.. PGMA, PNOY or DIGONG man yan.. palaging may bad press yan plagi at titirahin ng titirahin ng mga anti's yan plagi.. same with Democs vs Repubs in US.. pero dapat mag focus sa mga nagawa.. and Digong is a man on action.. yong pabahay sa Yolanda, Infrastractures "MEGA INFRASTRUCTURES" sa buong Pilipinas esp. mindanao, pagpapatino sa cabinet at mga pulis, ECONOMY ' di sya magaling dito "... "ENVIRONMENTAL ACTS - tnx to LOPEZ", "free EDUCATION sa state Universities, papataas ng sahod at yong tax sa sahod".. "action nya sa telecom companies".., WAR ON DRUGS.. at mrmi pang iba.. medyo di ako sang ayon sa DEATH PENALTY but that's it.. 11. His aim for FEDERALISM is still giving me hope tho... mas maganda kung umangat naman yong ibang provinces.. pero as of late, the direction of his governance is really going down in a steep slope. Intro 1.1 "but you're aware of course that 80percent to 90percent is Duterte's trust rating right.." This was already stated in my reply. Intro 1.2 "and votes from election is impressive garnering 41% with 5-6 candidates.. and that we can't say that 59% of it is against DUTERTE.. since there's a 2nd or 3rd option.. we're not in the US with only 2 strong candidates.. and the surveys and ratings of Duterte so far is well-loved by majority of the Filipino people.. bakit ba idedeny yan,, napka'obvious naman..." Why 5-6? Let's aim for accuracy here. Duterte garnered 38.63 percent of the total voting population while Aquino won the presidency with 42.08 percent. Neither impressive nor impossible. Additionally, public perception does not necessarily reflect how good a president performs. Many despots have been democratically elected into place. 1. These "facts" are appalling due to the inaccuracies you committed. a. Just because a person is dead and is a suspect do not automatically convict that person of the allegations. Some of the police involved in the arrest were indicted for murder. There were two counts for maliciously obtaining search warrants and abuse in the service, as well as perjury. The DOJ found that there was a conspiracy to commit felony. The errors in the police reports and witness accounts point to premeditation on the part of the police. b. Okay. Before we go off-tangent here, the argument revolves around Duterte killing drug lords. De Lima is alive. c. Are you referring to Jee? Again. Jee is accused, but contextualizing the case would show that Jee is a victim of policemen using the war on drugs as a cover for extortion. The facts of the case surrounding his death all point to this fact. This is in light of the PNP deflecting the blame to the "Korean mafia," only to be retracted through an apology. Again, he was accused without any concrete evidence, and then evidence shows that drug allegations were used to extort money from Jee's family. d. This SWS survey shows that 78 percent of Filipinos are afraid that someone they know might be killed in the war on drugs and 9 out of 10 Filipinos think drug suspects should be caught alive. Don't handpick surveys that only agree with you. http://www.sws.org.ph/swsmain/artcldisppage/?artcsyscode=ART-20161219110734 2. The fact that murdered drug lords has been around for some time does not change the fact that killing is wrong. But please do realize that what is happening now is state-sanctioned violence and killings. Killing drug users or addicts does not result in a drop in criminality. There is evidence in other countries that decriminalization of drug use, rehabilitation, and ample educational and work opportunities result in an overall decrease in drug use, because as long as the societal conditions for drug use exist, new ones will take the place of the murdered. https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening#.bvFiJwelW https://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/Laqueur_(2014)_-_Uses_and_Abuses_of_Drug_Decriminalization_in_Portugal_-_LSI.pdf https://www.unodc.org/documents/ungass2016/Contributions/Civil/DrugPolicyAlliance/DPA_Fact_Sheet_Approaches_to_Decriminalization_Feb2015_1.pdf 4. He's not a leftist. The Philippine left has already denounced him and his policies. The Makabayan bloc, for one. http://www.makabayan.net/content/youth-party-condemns-abra-bombing-‘duterte’s-all-out-war-wantonly-destroying-people’s-lives’ http://www.makabayan.net/content/solons-slam-afp’s-brutal-air-strikes-civilian-communities http://www.makabayan.net/content/duterte-dole’s-do-174-prey-upon-workers-graduates-joining-contractual-labor-force-youth http://www.makabayan.net/content/youth-lawmaker-slams-removal-anti-death-penalty-solons-key-house-posts Additionally, the Makabayan bloc lost their committee chairmanships. https://www.abante.com.ph/makabayan-bloc-pagninilayan-ang-relasyon-kay-duterte.htm Do you understand why there are peace talks? Because his policies are directly against the views of the NDFP and their plans for economic reforms. https://www.ndfp.org/getting-worst-end-grps-war/ https://www.ndfp.org/npa-ready-to-counter-abusive-anti-peace-afp-offensives/ https://www.ndfp.org/second-round-ends-progress-uncertainties-remain/ 5. "he loves minorities.. bakit nya pinoprotektahan ang mga lumad sa mindanao and the sorts.. and how is he anti-poor?? just because of WAR on DRUGS??" One. Nope. Lumad are still dying by paramilitary and military hands. I am not updated, but this is the latest that I know of: http://interaksyon.com/article/137440/couple-who-donated-land-for-lumad-school-murdered---sos-network Two, on your second question, yes. Remember. Not because of fighting drug use, but his methods. http://www.humanosphere.org/human-rights/2017/03/duterte-course-poor-biggest-casualty-drug-war/ 7. "The Church is THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY EVER .. i'm actually glad that he may be the 1st president to be openly agnostic. Like WAKE UP PEOPLE.." This is not a rebuttal. Also, Duterte used Catholic dogma to recant his promise regarding same-sex marriage. Here is the quote: "Wherever God has placed you, stay there.” So, wrong again on that agnostic account. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/world/asia/duterte-same-sex-marriage-philippines.html?_r=0 8. "Take it this way, you kill a drug pusher.. you frightened the whole industry you save lots of youngsters.. You save a drug pusher.. you save his soul yet the drug industry isn't shaking.. lots of youngsters will be into it.. they won't even mind as they knew there's this CHR who'll protect them.." Then please tell me why there are killings almost everyday? Shouldn't the drug war end with the first (or first ten, or hundred, or thousand) body? Why isn't anyone shaking? http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/iq/145814-numbers-statistics-philippines-war-drugs 10. "politics is politics.. PGMA, PNOY or DIGONG man yan.. palaging may bad press yan plagi at titirahin ng titirahin ng mga anti's yan plagi.." We can't say with finality that "politics is politics" and accept all the bad as if it was SOP. There are always critics, that much is true. But listen to what they are saying and be critical. If critics are wrong, they themselves will be criticized and lose credibility. "same with Democs vs Repubs in US.. pero dapat mag focus sa mga nagawa.. and Digong is a man on action.." Yes, and you do hear them. You see them everyday in the mainstream media, too. But the thing here is this: the people in power will only propagate stories that would make them good in the public eye. That's why all media theories and journalistic practices point to their function as watch dogs, to uncover the truth that is, most of the time, hidden from public scrutiny. "yong pabahay sa Yolanda, Infrastractures "MEGA INFRASTRUCTURES" sa buong Pilipinas esp. mindanao," No one is denying the good Duterte has done, but paltry houses or bridges will never justify his 8,000-strong body count. "pagpapatino sa cabinet at mga pulis" See: Jee, DOLE employee contractualization, MACR, Pacquiao, Espinosa, drug war "collateral damage," On Jee: http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/159777-senate-hearing-jee-ick-joo-police-crime-drug-war On corruption: http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/01/30/rodrigo-duterte-seeks-pnp-revamp-to-get-rid-of-corrupt-cops.html http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38793008 On MACR: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/877712/lowering-age-of-criminal-liability-antikids-rights On DOLE: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/01/04/1659479/duterte-oks-new-dole-policy-contractualization http://bulatlat.com/main/2017/01/04/do168-worsen-rather-end-contractualization-kmu/ http://bulatlat.com/main/2017/03/17/new-dole-order-contractualization-mere-rehash-old-policy-labor-groups/ "ECONOMY ' di sya magaling dito "... Not really. http://www.rappler.com/business/163147-ph-peso-dollar-new-10-year-low "ENVIRONMENTAL ACTS - tnx to LOPEZ", Effects remain to be seen. But as early as now, not a smart move appointing her. She has recommended MAGNETS to mine ores and minerals. FFS. "free EDUCATION sa state Universities," That is not true. It is socialized, the implementation of which remain to be seen but current systems, as was the basis for the bill, benefit an insignificant, little portion of the entire school population. See: UP STS and STFAP. http://kabataanpartylist.com/blog/2017/03/07/youth-party-worried-despite-passage-of-free-education-bill-warns-of-strong-backlash-from-youth-and-students/ "papataas ng sahod at yong tax sa sahod".. What we need is a progressive tax reform and a better tax collection department and policies; not higher taxes. Also, the minimum wage has not reached the P16,000 needed monthly to be adequate for a family of four to account for all the basic necessities. "action nya sa telecom companies". Commendable, of course. Implementation and results remain to be seen. "., WAR ON DRUGS.." Do not tout this as a success; see previous points. "at mrmi pang iba.. medyo di ako sang ayon sa DEATH PENALTY but that's it.." At least some sense exists in you. What troubles me is "medyo." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennji 546 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 hours ago, FRANZGA said: yeah right.. cause as long as there's politics and political views there's THESE.. but that doesn't mean you should focus on the bad side of that person you don't like. try to look at the positive things too.. Then weigh how it affects the lives of the many.. FOR THE GREATER GOOD they say... not even in a year and here we are.. BYE/.. Don't you mean "bye logic" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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