baptism 2,670 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Sometimes I feel like despite Trump being elected Commander in Chief, Obama is still more of less the POTUS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,738 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Idk, Trump is honestly kind of stupid and a loose cannon. That's the only reason I would believe this The thing about deal making is you're never going to do something that is a lose for everyone involved. So they vote no on this. Then Trump has to be the one that stops all healthcare bill movement. Then Trump is responsible, personally, for Obamacare being unchanged and in place. Republicans look bad for not being able to do anything. The American people lose because we go another 4-8 years without any updates to our health care laws that need tweaking. It's just the dumbest ultimatum I've ever seen and it makes me so mad that he's probably serious. If he really does stop all future health care bills I'll be even more mad when he takes credit for Obamacare leveling out and things getting better on their own. The way he twists reality with his base has no limits. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonWhiteGirl 1,039 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Didn't Trump's health bill get denied because it was too similar to Obamacare??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 hours ago, baptism said: I think this vote will truly prove whether or not congress and the Senate are sheep who vote blindly for anything their party tells them to. or if they vote with a conscience with their constituents in mind. There are a few moderates Republicans that care about what their constituents want. The main hold up with this bill passing was that it wasn't cruel enough yet. They added a few concessions last night to screw the people of the country that are using or needing healthcare...and that made the Freedom Caucus happier and more likely to vote Yes. The hold outs were the Freedom Caucus (the Tea Party) that hates all entitlements and doesn't want to give the working poor, the elderly, and children in poverty any kind of help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, SEANGT said: The thing about deal making is you're never going to do something that is a lose for everyone involved. So they vote no on this. Then Trump has to be the one that stops all healthcare bill movement. Then Trump is responsible, personally, for Obamacare being unchanged and in place. Republicans look bad for not being able to do anything. The American people lose because we go another 4-8 years without any updates to our health care laws that need tweaking. It's just the dumbest ultimatum I've ever seen and it makes me so mad that he's probably serious. If he really does stop all future health care bills I'll be even more mad when he takes credit for Obamacare leveling out and things getting better on their own. The way he twists reality with his base has no limits. Pretty much. They relatively win compared to any health care bill the Republicans come up with because they arent interested in actually "improving" health care and don't believe health care should be a right. They won't all admit it, but its the truth The most you can say is that they are interested in improving the choices (for people with money) Obamacare would have worked out better with medicaid expansion, but Republicans are for destroying medicaid. Maybe with Hillary, we could've had some kind of improvement to the flawed system, but the Trump era is going to be all about regression on every issue, even war and terror, which the Republican's claim to be good at 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,738 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Pretty much. They relatively win compared to any health care bill the Republicans come up with because they arent interested in actually "improving" health care and don't believe health care should be a right. They won't all admit it, but its the truth The most you can say is that they are interested in improving the choices (for people with money) Obamacare would have worked out better with medicaid expansion, but Republicans are for destroying medicaid. Maybe with Hillary, we could've had some kind of improvement to the flawed system, but the Trump era is going to be all about regression on every issue, even war and terror, which the Republican's claim to be good at Right, at least we have the ACA so nothing passing at all is actually a relief compared to anything they do manage to pass with republican "ideals." The whole government is just a friggin messsss Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer 10,980 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yaaaas omg... keep ACA 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,285 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, baptism said: Sometimes I feel like despite Trump being elected Commander in Chief, Obama is still more of less the POTUS. That's because the republicans are acting the same way they did for 8 years when Obama was president. Do nothing and blame Obama(care). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptism 2,670 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 6 hours ago, uo111 said: That's because the republicans are acting the same way they did for 8 years when Obama was president. Do nothing and blame Obama(care). Very fair lol. And because Obama still seems more powerful. Like if he said something, everybody would listen. He could start such a revolt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 11 hours ago, CustomGueseppi said: I was hoping it was going to say "Pass AHCA Or I'll Leave Office" "I have a dream..." (MLK) like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 9 hours ago, SEANGT said: Right, at least we have the ACA so nothing passing at all is actually a relief compared to anything they do manage to pass with republican "ideals." The whole government is just a friggin messsss Fire Washingon... elect Canada to run the US like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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