Chart Discussion: Joanne / Million Reasons

[doppelganger 3,947]

19 minutes ago, Edlim222 said:

Well, it is more fair that way honestly. Hits are now based (more) on what people really listen, not what they buy. I often in the past bought songs that I only listen 3-4 times… Clearly, a purchase doesn't make a hit. A (true) hit by definition is a song who is really popular, a song that people will remember more than other songs. People won't remember songs they purchased but didn't listen to. They'll remember what they truly listen to.

Charts show what songs are popular at the moment. In the past, the only way they had to see which songs were popular was radio/sales. Now we have a new metric, far more closer to reality.

I think the new system is just fine and you're mad only because Gaga isn't great in streaming and that blocks her from reaching higher numbers on BB charts. If she was a streaming force however you wouldn't complain.

The world is changing my dear and past doesn't mean better.

This!

I've stopped "buying" music but i do subscribe to Apple Music. 

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Million Reasons coming through like

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The meninists on this thread jfc. I think I threw up a little in my mouth. 

Amazing updates. Stable on iTunes. Stability queen. 
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A LOT of new videos this week btw. The Weeknd, Julia Michaels. Stay strong MR. 

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Remember when... 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

2 hours ago, Decodekid said:

i read back in some pages of this thread that is doing better than CTTR and LOB on the Radio

BTW keep streaming sis 

It's getting great adds but from their to actively doing better on the radio, well MR still needs about an additional 45M AI to catch up to CTTR and 100M AI to catch up to LOTB. Maybe by the end of April for the additional 45M. 

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33 minutes ago, Edlim222 said:

Well, it is more fair that way honestly. Hits are now based (more) on what people really listen, not what they buy. I often in the past bought songs that I only listen 3-4 times… Clearly, a purchase doesn't make a hit. A (true) hit by definition is a song who is really popular, a song that people will remember more than other songs. People won't remember songs they purchased but didn't listen to. They'll remember what they truly listen to.

Charts show what songs are popular at the moment. In the past, the only way they had to see which songs were popular was radio/sales. Now we have a new metric, far more closer to reality.

I think the new system is just fine and you're mad only because Gaga isn't great in streaming and that blocks her from reaching higher numbers on BB charts. If she was a streaming force however you wouldn't complain.

The world is changing my dear and past doesn't mean better.

Streaming is a joke and it's turned the charts into meaningless lists of songs by random people. The album charts are still somewhat relevant to me but just looking at the UK singles chart top 10 this week with like 9 entries by Ed Sheeran makes me realise just how pointless everything about singles charts these days is. Those songs aren't hits, they aren't singles, but since people are streaming the album like crazy they all chart. What the actual ****?! Those songs aren't hits.

Spotify heavily influences the charts, and if a song is included in a hugely followed playlist there's more chances it'll become a hit because people will hear it (and I repeat HEAR it, not necessarily LISTEN to it). Not to mention the million ways fanbases cheat (including little monsters, obvs) by playing a certain song over and over (and over and over) again. Back when you would buy singles, you could go out of your way to make a song a hit, but all you could do was buy multiple copies (at different stores, otherwise it wouldn't count), but now you can literally play the same song thousands of times and it somehow affects the charts. A few years ago, you'd see a music video on TV or hear a song on the radio and if you wanted to hear it again you'd buy the single or the album. It was organic, it was respectful of the art of making music itself and it helped the music industry be far less disgustingly desperate.

And watching a video repeatedly on Youtube? That affects the charts too. It just isn't the same as deciding to spend a small portion of your hard-earned money on a song or an artist you truly love.

Streaming has turned music into fast food.

[KingOfSpain 10,010]

2 hours ago, Albertodift said:

Million Reasons

Spotify:

#52 Italy (+2)

#106 Spain (+24)

#118 Brazil (+36)

#127 Worldwide (+17)

#128 Sweden (+15)

#130 United Kingdom (NE)

#130 Mexico (-15)

#148 Philippines (+47)

#151 Canada (+44)

#154 United States (+22)

#161 Norway (+12)

#172 Argentina (+10)

I haven't EVER got a Million Reasons on Spotify while Katy Perry is being promoted like crazy. Only pop stans care about Katy Perry here but her song is higher than MR just because it's included in every single trending playlist. 

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I can't wait until MR passes CTTR on radio

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Edlim222 said:

Well, it is more fair that way honestly. Hits are now based (more) on what people really listen, not what they buy. I often in the past bought songs that I only listen 3-4 times… Clearly, a purchase doesn't make a hit. A (true) hit by definition is a song who is really popular, a song that people will remember more than other songs. People won't remember songs they purchased but didn't listen to. They'll remember what they truly listen to.

Charts show what songs are popular at the moment. In the past, the only way they had to see which songs were popular was radio/sales. Now we have a new metric, far more closer to reality.

I think the new system is just fine and you're mad only because Gaga isn't great in streaming and that blocks her from reaching higher numbers on BB charts. If she was a streaming force however you wouldn't complain.

The world is changing my dear and past doesn't mean better.

This...and also if MR was streaming 10 to 15 Million a week, everyone here would somehow know exactly how much stream pays per stream per service and be defending streaming with tooth and nail. 

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

5 hours ago, LittleCharter said:

Explain me why it's ok to have muscle sweaty men in girls' videos, but it's wrong to have sexy women in Maroon 5's vids. These double standards are insane.    

Actually the latter happens a hell lot more than the former, so there is a right to complain. Either more men should stop looking at women purely as sex objects, or more women should just be equally superficial and sexualise men instead of just themselves. 

[nick4bty 2,758]

2 minutes ago, KingOfSpain said:

I haven't EVER got a Million Reasons on Spotify while Katy Perry is being promoted like crazy. Only pop stans care about Katy Perry here but her song is higher than MR just because it's included in every single trending playlist. 

Don't worry, once its 5 week deal is up it'll drop like a rock 

[TwerkinLurkin 4,764]

6 minutes ago, BornSimon said:

Streaming is a joke and it's turned the charts into meaningless lists of songs by random people. The album charts are still somewhat relevant to me but just looking at the UK singles chart top 10 this week with like 9 entries by Ed Sheeran makes me realise just how pointless everything about singles charts these days is. Those songs aren't hits, they aren't singles, but since people are streaming the album like crazy they all chart. What the actual ****?! Those songs aren't hits.

Spotify heavily influences the charts, and if a song is included in a hugely followed playlist there's more chances it'll become a hit because people will hear it (and I repeat HEAR it, not necessarily LISTEN to it). Not to mention the million ways fanbases cheat (including little monsters, obvs) by playing a certain song over and over (and over and over) again. Back when you would buy singles, you could go out of your way to make a song a hit, but all you could do was buy multiple copies (at different stores, otherwise it wouldn't count), but now you can literally play the same song thousands of times and it somehow affects the charts. A few years ago, you'd see a music video on TV or hear a song on the radio and if you wanted to hear it again you'd buy the single or the album. It was organic, it was respectful of the art of making music itself and it helped the music industry be far less disgustingly desperate.

And watching a video repeatedly on Youtube? That affects the charts too. It just isn't the same as deciding to spend a small portion of your hard-earned money on a song or an artist you truly love.

Streaming has turned music into fast food.

You have to realize though that more people expecially young people are streaming music instead of buying it so they needed to do something to include streams and it's new so obviously it's not 100% great because I agree with you the way they do albums is a mess and just because one song is really popular the album sps goes up which I think is unfair tbh but at the same time it helps people who don't get radio play because their not some big named pop star chart on the bb charts which I think is good

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2 minutes ago, nick4bty said:

Don't worry, once its 5 week deal is up it'll drop like a rock 

Spotify is going to promote Katy Perry all year long. Even her tour. They made a deal. 

[RadioIsOurs 13,876]

4 minutes ago, TwerkinLurkin said:

You have to realize though that more people expecially young people are streaming music instead of buying it so they needed to do something to include streams and it's new so obviously it's not 100% great because I agree with you the way they do albums is a mess and just because one song is really popular the album sps goes up which I think is unfair tbh but at the same time it helps people who don't get radio play because their not some big named pop star chart on the bb charts which I think is good

Instead of big named pop stars, we get cheap no name novelty acts that only decreases the value of pop music. Seriously, memes can now be used to make unlistenable songs hits...