Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, FATCAT said: I doubt it! Man is fit! Holy ****! This could be used in a campaign ad. "Bernie for president: don't worry, I ain't dying anytime soon" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Shadow said: Democrats came together 8 years ago for Obama and again in 2012. What changed in the last four years for Democrats to be so divided lately? The Democrats have been bleeding positions at state and local levels, though. Republicans have shown up to vote at these levels and Democrats haven't. As social issues have moved towards the left, moderates have appeared to move towards the right. (Even though they are standing still actually) Blue collar, rural, white families aren't necessarily all about a rainbow colored White House, their state becoming more and more diverse and free college for all. Even minorities aren't necessarily completely comfortable with a more open border, although many of them benefited from those policies. When you have a period of progression, you are going to naturally have a period that pushes against that. That push and pull is what helps keep things even and steady. The problem is that we didn't get a typical Republican type, like Bush. We got an incompetent, unprepared, dangerous dictator. If we had elected a typical type conservative, we would be experiencing the balancing act...instead of a frightening upheaval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 hours ago, MJHolland said: God I hate him so much Why would you not want dems to win across the board, regardless of whether or not they subrcribe to your radical socialist views. Ugh. lol if someone effed you over like they did him you woulnd't have written this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Jed said: lol if someone effed you over like they did him you woulnd't have written this Who the f*ck "effed" Bernie over? Clinton won the primaries because 4 million more americans voted for her than for Bernie. Not because super delegates, or because of a "rigged system". 4 million people voted for her, you're saying that he was screwed out of FOUR MILLION VOTES?! Girl bye. There was no screwing of effing with any campaign that would have swayed FOUR MILLION Americans to not vote for a damn socialist Now that he's a sore little loser and he's a upset about anti-Israel-Ellison losing, he's trying to screw dems. Nope. We should screw him first and turn over his seat. Trump is president, now is not the f*cking time to split the democratic party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 i'm really not for bern infiltrating the dems anymore. time for the progressive party to stand on their own two crazy ass feet. would be interesting to see how that plays out after trump is done I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,707 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Whispering said: The Democrats have been bleeding positions at state and local levels, though. Republicans have shown up to vote at these levels and Democrats haven't. As social issues have moved towards the left, moderates have appeared to move towards the right. (Even though they are standing still actually) Blue collar, rural, white families aren't necessarily all about a rainbow colored White House, their state becoming more and more diverse and free college for all. Even minorities aren't necessarily completely comfortable with a more open border, although many of them benefited from those policies. When you have a period of progression, you are going to naturally have a period that pushes against that. That push and pull is what helps keep things even and steady. The problem is that we didn't get a typical Republican type, like Bush. We got an incompetent, unprepared, dangerous dictator. If we had elected a typical type conservative, we would be experiencing the balancing act...instead of a frightening upheaval. There were plenty of those typical Republican types, including another Bush, in the primaries. What happened? People seem to hate the establishment and the media. Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Who the f*ck "effed" Bernie over? Clinton won the primaries because 4 million more americans voted for her than for Bernie. Not because super delegates, or because of a "rigged system". 4 million people voted for her, you're saying that he was screwed out of FOUR MILLION VOTES?! Girl bye. There was no screwing of effing with any campaign that would have swayed FOUR MILLION Americans to not vote for a damn socialist Now that he's a sore little loser and he's a upset about anti-Israel-Ellison losing, he's trying to screw dems. Nope. We should screw him first and turn over his seat. Trump is president, now is not the f*cking time to split the democratic party. uhhhh if the DNC considered using his religion against him and other tactics to make him NOT the nominee then they lied about it being an "open race." that's it. also democratic socialism is different than socialism but i don't expect you to do any follow up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Y'all this is just going to divide the part further Realistically speaking, the divide is just going to bigger unless he can unify both the moderate and conservative democrats with the far left idealists. This isn't that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, MJHolland said: God I hate him so much Why would you not want dems to win across the board, regardless of whether or not they subrcribe to your radical socialist views. Ugh. He is so unrealistic. Nothing would ever pay for what he proposed, the statistics prove it. I am so happy he never won, he would bankrupt us so quickly GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Who the f*ck "effed" Bernie over? and no one said 4 million votes were stolen from him but they were dishonest about their involvement in the race between the two of them which undermines their credibility. They have acknowledged that the leaked emails are genuine and this was discovered in those emails https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new-leak-top-dnc-official-wanted-to-use-bernie-sanderss-religious-beliefs-against-him/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jed said: uhhhh if the DNC considered using his religion against him and other tactics to make him NOT the nominee then they lied about it being an "open race." that's it. also democratic socialism is different than socialism but i don't expect you to do any follow up Key word: Considered Literally nothing was rigged against him. Even if he has ALL the super delegates, he wouldn't even have won. Clinton won because 4 million more Americans voted for her over Bernie's policies. But I don't expect you to accept the fact that your fav lost fair a square (twice now) and now he's being a big sore loser crybaby. Spoiler Also I know the difference between socialism and democratic socialism Spoiler both would be disasters in the US. We aren't France or Sweden, we have our own set of unique problems The top 20 percent earns in this country already pay over 80% of ALL taxes and you want them to pay more? Basic supply and demand laws prove Bernie's policies would be disastrous. Free college? Yup, let's totally devalue the worth of a college degree, that makes sense. Democrats do NOT want Bernie's flavor of (democratic) socialism, that's why FOUR MILLION MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR CLINTON! Spoiler Again, I don't expect you to be mature an accept that fact. 16 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: He is so unrealistic. Nothing would ever pay for what he proposed, the statistics prove it. I am so happy he never won, he would bankrupt us so quickly Amen sis. Bad for our country and that's why the democratic process weeded him out! And now he's trying to play dirty behind the scenes because he's mad he lost fair and square? Ya right. 14 minutes ago, Jed said: and no one said 4 million votes were stolen from him but they were dishonest about their involvement in the race between the two of them which undermines their credibility. They have acknowledged that the leaked emails are genuine and this was discovered in those emails https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new-leak-top-dnc-official-wanted-to-use-bernie-sanderss-religious-beliefs-against-him/ Again, you seem to fail to understand that MORE people favored Hillary's moderate polices to Bernie's very liberal/dem. socialist ones. So why do you think that pulling the party left is the way to take down Trump? That is what this thread is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Key word: Considered Literally nothing was rigged against him. Even if he has ALL the super delegates, he wouldn't even have won. Clinton won because 4 million more Americans voted for her over Bernie's policies. But I don't expect you to accept the fact that your fav lost fair a square (twice now) and now he's being a big sore loser crybaby. Reveal hidden contents Also I know the difference between socialism and democratic socialism Reveal hidden contents both would be disasters in the US. We aren't France or Sweden, we have our own set of unique problems The top 20 percent earns in this country already pay over 80% of ALL taxes and you want them to pay more? Basic supply and demand laws prove Bernie's policies would be disastrous. Free college? Yup, let's totally devalue the worth of a college degree, that makes sense. Democrats do NOT want Bernie's flavor of (democratic) socialism, that's why FOUR MILLION MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR CLINTON! Reveal hidden contents Again, I don't expect you to be mature an accept that fact. Amen sis. Bad for our country and that's why the democratic process weeded him out! And now he's trying to play dirty behind the scenes because he's mad he lost fair and square? Ya right. Again, you seem to fail to understand that MORE people favored Hillary's moderate polices to Bernie's very liberal/dem. socialist ones. So why do you think that pulling the party left is the way to take down Trump? That is what this thread is about. My response is i wouldn't trust them either, now they've groveling cus all the same polls that said she would beat him also said he would beat trump... them even considering taking out such a heavy contender is a bit ridiculous. The media had a bias against him the entire time which also has been proven with hillary getting debate questions ahead of time via Brazile (who now I think is affiliated with the DNC? lmao) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Shadow said: There were plenty of those typical Republican types, including another Bush, in the primaries. What happened? People seem to hate the establishment and the media. Too many nominees splitting the vote until it was too late. Trump giving a voice and platform to a faction of Americans that are usually left out because they are too extreme. Idiots that believed he would "build a wall, send eleven million people back, give them amazing insurance for a minimal price, and wipe out ISIS" all in the first week/month like he promised. Clueless voters that thought different meant better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Edonis said: Y'all this is just going to divide the part further Realistically speaking, the divide is just going to bigger unless he can unify both the moderate and conservative democrats with the far left idealists. This isn't that good Bernie? Lol No way is he interested in compromise and common sense approaches. He's the old man yelling at the clouds, and he has always been that way. He isn't going to do what's best for anyone but himself and his ideas. He thinks he is one hundred per cent right, one hundred per cent of the time...and nothing will ever change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Born To Slay said: During the course of the interview, something happened that will have those Democrats who are up for reelection in 2018, shaking: In a roundabout way, Sanders said he would not be providing the DNC with his email list, and would instead use it to help progressives running in Democratic primaries. YAAAAAAAAAAS BERNIE! This is awesome. Why would he give them his email list after their horrible behaviour during the Democratic primary? Also, please note that those people didn't agree to send their emails to the Democratic Party. They gave them to Bernie's campaign, not the DNC. And I've read for months comments from people worried he would hand over their emails. Looks like they didn't need to be concerned. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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