Daydream 541 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Katy just sticks to her brand... Which is cute, fun, and catchy music with eccentric and colourful visuals and it works because it is what we expect from her. Sure, she matures and changes her aesthetic with each album, but her body of work and discography is still cohesive. For example, I can put Dark Horse on Teenage Dream and it would still fit, or I can put Hot n' Cold on Prism and it would still work. On the other hand, look what happened when Gaga suddenly switched from pop to country... Both the public and the fans were caught off-guard and she just lost her touch. Can I put John Wayne on The Fame Monster? No. Can I put Paparazzi on Born This Way? No. Can I put Alejandro on Joanne? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 'Cause she sells as a fun popstar. And she's afraid of losing her audience. To me, these kind of artists become boring with the time because they don't do something fresh. I love Pink but her new songs sound the same as her previews ones (Max Martin formula). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 28,258 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 to stay relevant you don't take risks (like gaga, she's always taking risks) you just make generic boring ****, that everyone will eat up and bop to for a while. Long Live Gretchen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peto flex 2,641 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, katykatt said: If Katy is ugly, i don't know what Gaga and you are Get your facts right bye 💎💎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Enigma said: Well if she is happy then good for her. But she will never be seen as talented or be acclaimed. Artists should always aim to be creative because music is art. Music is art, exactly, and so art that you enjoy may not be the same as everyone else's. An artist shouldn't need to change their art for being seen as talented or acclaimed and just because you don't see her as talented or creative that doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't You're here saying artists should do this and should do that, well how about they just do what they want to, I don't understand why you're imposing things onto them Let them be, if her art isn't for you then there are many people out there whose art you will resonate with. Just as there are many people out there who resonate with Katy Perry's art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oivind 287 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I think Katy Perry has very little creative control, and the record company's priority is to sell records. Sure, she contributes with some lyrics, so they can put her up as a co-writer, but her songs are written by guys like Max Martin. I read "The Song Machine" by John Seabrook, and it describes the creation of several pop songs, "Roar" among them. I don't think Katy Perry had much to do with the songwriting there. Max Martin and Dr. Luke wrote the track, Bonnie McKee was the topliner (the one who comes up with the melodic hooks). The fact that all those three are credited makes it extremely unlikely that Katy Perry contributed much, besides lyrics. I'm not saying all this to criticize her, I like her quite a lot, actually. Not as much as Gaga, but I have about 10 Katy Perry songs on my playlists. To be honest, we don't know how Lady Gaga divides labor between herself and the co-writers either, but we know she started as a songwriter, and she has changed a lot, so she seems to me to have a lot of creative control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Anastasia said: No but seriously. Rihanna released a new album, she only does urban music. Adele released a new album, she only does ballads. Britney Spears released a new album, she's doing what's trending, she's not a risky pop star. Kanye West, same. Just name any artist who dares to release new music and happens to be more successful or get more acclaim than Lady Gaga at that specific moment, and he will make a thread about that calling them risk-averse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos 3,199 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Can we please stop bringing other artist down, and then crying when other people do it to Gaga? Please, for god's sake, this is so annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Jane Wayne 1,997 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 It works for her perfectly so she probably doesn't want to take a risk. Can't blame her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Enigma said: This is a forum though. Is all about analysis. That's what you say every time someone calls you out, always. Just take the L like a champ and accept that all your threads follow a pattern which is calling artists risk-averse. People try to argue with you and you keep moving that goalpost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterDrive 2,788 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Enigma said: In other words afraid of loosing success? Yeah Gaga has acting and jazz stuff once she fails but Katy just revolves around popular stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, Haroon said: Music is art, exactly, and so art that you enjoy may not be the same as everyone else's. An artist shouldn't need to change their art for being seen as talented or acclaimed and just because you don't see her as talented or creative that doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't You're here saying artists should do this and should do that, well how about they just do what they want to, I don't understand why you're imposing things onto them Let them be, if her art isn't for you then there are many people out there whose art you will resonate with. Just as there are many people out there who resonate with Katy Perry's art Omg, very beautifully put Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,372 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 We have not listened to Katy's new album so we really don't know if it's different from her past work yet. I think it WILL be different this time because as far as we know, Dr. Luke is not involved in the process of it. I think you should wait until you come up with that conclusion. As for her other albums, Teenage Dream was so successful that they probably wanted to make money off that trend again and they did, it's like her signature sound/image so if it works, you do it. Other than that, I think we all should just enjoy whatever we want to listen to. All artists are different and there's no way you can compare Katy to Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusBlackStar 1,301 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Maybe she swallowed an Everstone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Because she's a simple product of her label, created to bring in money, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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