Trump bans EPA from providing updates to reporters or social media

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34 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

Okay well it's not like Hillary's whole political career has been built on different lies, but okay. I won't go there considering it doesn't matter to you anyway. Look into what her husband got impeached for (yes it's her husband/still linked to her), her foundation, her debates (cheating), her views (questionable), her pandering, her emails. Everything. Don't act like its a fact Trump lies WAY more. It's an opinion, and it can be well debated.

And no, there isn't an excuse for question where someone is born. all i know is his opinion of where Obama was born was a common conspiracy and it doesn't put anyone at risk. That's just my take. I don't think that's a huge deal. If thats up there on the top of the list of things Trump is just so heavily ridiculous on then we need to make a new list.

I'm sorry, but you obviously don't know what the **** you're talking about. Whether something is TRUE or FALSE is NOT AN OPINION. People like you are the exact reason Kellyanne Conway can go on TV and talk about "alternative facts" and still have people believe her. You don't believe in facts. You live in a fact-free world of ignorance in which nothing is true or false and everything is just somebody's opinion. Let me break this down for you. 1) A statement is either true or false. 2) The truth or falsehood of empirical statements can be checked by looking at primary sources like video tapes, audio tapes, transcripts, data logs, experimental evidence, etc. 3) Someone who knowingly says a falsehood has lied. Therefore: whether someone has lied or not in a given statement can be empirically verified. 4) It can be counted how many total statements a person has made, and how many of these are true vs. false. Therefore: it can be calculated what percentage of a person's statements are lies  (# lies / total # statements × 100%). 5) This can be done for multiple people. Therefore: the rate at which person A lies can be directly, numerically compared to the rate at which person B lies. Therefore: whether person A lies more than person B is an empirical fact. IT IS NOT, BY ANY MEANS AN OPINION. 

Since nobody has bothered to actually cite it to you, here is the citation showing that Clinton was demonstrably, empirically, numerically, factually, considerably more honest than Trump was. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for your citations on the relative rate of harassment by liberals against conservatives versus by conservatives against liberals (also an empirical claim meaning you need to cite your evidence and anecdotes don't count). But rather than waiting since I doubt you actually have empirical evidence, I'll leave my source showing just how bad the conservative on liberal harassment has gotten post-election. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/fbi-hate-crimes-muslims.html?referer=

I would encourage you to take a class in critical thinking at some point, because if you honestly don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion, or think anecdotal "evidence" is really evidence, you have an INCREDIBLY poor tool set to discern truth from lies in the world around you, and nobody is easier to take advantage of than a citizen that doesn't know how to think clearly and critically. Really, it's for your own good. 

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26 minutes ago, rpggal said:

I'm sorry, but you obviously don't know what the **** you're talking about. Whether something is TRUE or FALSE is NOT AN OPINION. People like you are the exact reason Kellyanne Conway can go on TV and talk about "alternative facts" and still have people believe her. You don't believe in facts. You live in a fact-free world of ignorance in which nothing is true or false and everything is just somebody's opinion. Let me break this down for you. 1) A statement is either true or false. 2) The truth or falsehood of empirical statements can be checked by looking at primary sources like video tapes, audio tapes, transcripts, data logs, experimental evidence, etc. 3) Someone who knowingly says a falsehood has lied. Therefore: whether someone has lied or not in a given statement can be empirically verified. 4) It can be counted how many total statements a person has made, and how many of these are true vs. false. Therefore: it can be calculated what percentage of a person's statements are lies  (# lies / total # statements × 100%). 5) This can be done for multiple people. Therefore: the rate at which person A lies can be directly, numerically compared to the rate at which person B lies. Therefore: whether person A lies more than person B is an empirical fact. IT IS NOT, BY ANY MEANS AN OPINION. 

Since nobody has bothered to actually cite it to you, here is the citation showing that Clinton was demonstrably, empirically, numerically, factually, considerably more honest than Trump was. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for your citations on the relative rate of harassment by liberals against conservatives versus by conservatives against liberals (also an empirical claim meaning you need to cite your evidence and anecdotes don't count). But rather than waiting since I doubt you actually have empirical evidence, I'll leave my source showing just how bad the conservative on liberal harassment has gotten post-election. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/fbi-hate-crimes-muslims.html?referer=

I would encourage you to take a class in critical thinking at some point, because if you honestly don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion, or think anecdotal "evidence" is really evidence, you have an INCREDIBLY poor tool set to discern truth from lies in the world around you, and nobody is easier to take advantage of than a citizen that doesn't know how to think clearly and critically. Really, it's for your own good. 

PREACH. 

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1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

He brought it upon himself. 

He used divisive rhetoric throughout the campaign and continues to spew **** into his presidency. 

The media's job is to expose lies at times like this. 

He loves to play the victim and gullible people believe it. He is a manipulative narcissist. 

He didn't bring on media bias. You can't blame him for everything. And no, he doesn't like playing the victim. All i've seen is extremists on the other side play the victim far more than he did.

 

1 hour ago, Seeka said:

I hope you like never ever being able to go outside because it'll be like 130 degrees in the "warm" months, and like negative 80 with 40 feet of snow in the cold months. Spring and fall will not exist.

Like seriously the dismantling of the EPA which he seems to be aiming to do is unacceptable in everyway.

This will actually lead to the end of the human race. We're already to far gone to prevent global climate change. it's happening. The best we can do is slow and mitigate the damage while waiting for a way to reverse it.

I can allow many social injustices to happen.

But I'm not letting the world end.

I'm sorry if you don't realize this, but honestly, laying around? being complacent? Does you nothing. Does nobody nothing.

You don't wanna get angry and protest or bitchy? Fine. Stop preventing others and trying to make the see your way.

Because when you're reveling in their success you wouldn't want everyone pointing out wht a hypocritical bitch you were before.

Just you know, some thoughts before the end of the human race.

Isn't this just news updates from them? Not a full dismantling? Also, everything i've been posting in this thread has gone far from the main point (sorry about that)

Also, sorry, but i don't care about climate change as much as you. It's not at the top of my list of problems the government can really deal with or should deal with right now. Isn't part of it natural?, and the reason it's happening so fast is because of all the fossil fuels, fuels, etc. I'm not educated in it either.

Sorry, if you think i'm trying to change people or something.

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Just now, BuzzcutSeason said:

He didn't bring on media bias. You can't blame him for everything. And no, he doesn't like playing the victim. All i've seen is extremists on the other side play the victim far more than he did.

Yes, he did. He was a celebrity. 

Doesn't like playing the victim? Please. Have you seen how he rationalizes losing the popular vote and having smaller crowds ar the inauguration? 

"All I've seen is extremists on the other side" 

Well then you must be blind because there's plenty to see on BOTH sides and you either don't want to see the other side or you support this man. 

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2 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

Also, sorry, but i don't care about climate change as much as you. It's not at the top of my list of problems the government can really deal with or should deal with right now. Isn't part of it natural?, and the reason it's happening so fast is because of all the fossil fuels, fuels, etc. I'm not educated in it either.

Yes, yes it is happening fast because of fossil fuels. Yes the poles are melting. The glaciers are melting. Coral reefs around the world are dying. And yes it is important and you SHOULD care unless you don't give a **** that future generations are gonna enjoy bleached reefs, extreme temperatures and extinct animals. 

I'm getting so worked up over this man and I'm not even American, but the things he does are gonna have effects on the planet and the fact that he's trying to censor actual scientific facts is just horrifying. 

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23 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

He didn't bring on media bias. You can't blame him for everything. And no, he doesn't like playing the victim. All i've seen is extremists on the other side play the victim far more than he did.

 

Isn't this just news updates from them? Not a full dismantling? Also, everything i've been posting in this thread has gone far from the main point (sorry about that)

Also, sorry, but i don't care about climate change as much as you. It's not at the top of my list of problems the government can really deal with or should deal with right now. Isn't part of it natural?, and the reason it's happening so fast is because of all the fossil fuels, fuels, etc. I'm not educated in it either.

Sorry, if you think i'm trying to change people or something.

Honey Global climate change is a thing.

Some of it is natural.

However more than most of it manmade and accelerated. I'm sorry but the government needs to deal with it. Worldwide temperatures are already rising, weather is getting wilder.

This is not only effecting us, but our environments and the animals within. I watched a lovely documentary on PBS (or a part of it) about how, due to rising carbon dioxide levels in the water caused by global climate change, clams and othe mollusks are becoming deformed and incapable of regular growth and have tendencies of dying before they can be harvested.

I'm sorry but if you're a climate changer denier, you're just as unintelligent as Trump is. if you don't think preventing the end of the world is not a top priority then I'm not going to deal with your idiocy.

The fact is the Paris Climate Change agreement was created for a reason.

Now this entire world is doomed to extremes, and the human race? We're probably gonna die out. not all of us. Just most of us, and enough will be left to start thos epost apocalypse scavenger cultures.

Like I said, enjoy what you have now. Unless Trump is stopped, it's not gonna last long. besides dismantling the EPA, he plans on using more fossil fuels which will accelerate our dooms even more.

EDIT: also what @sarahb said. bleached reefs, future generations, all of that.

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1 hour ago, rpggal said:

I'm sorry, but you obviously don't know what the **** you're talking about. Whether something is TRUE or FALSE is NOT AN OPINION. People like you are the exact reason Kellyanne Conway can go on TV and talk about "alternative facts" and still have people believe her. You don't believe in facts. You live in a fact-free world of ignorance in which nothing is true or false and everything is just somebody's opinion. Let me break this down for you. 1) A statement is either true or false. 2) The truth or falsehood of empirical statements can be checked by looking at primary sources like video tapes, audio tapes, transcripts, data logs, experimental evidence, etc. 3) Someone who knowingly says a falsehood has lied. Therefore: whether someone has lied or not in a given statement can be empirically verified. 4) It can be counted how many total statements a person has made, and how many of these are true vs. false. Therefore: it can be calculated what percentage of a person's statements are lies  (# lies / total # statements × 100%). 5) This can be done for multiple people. Therefore: the rate at which person A lies can be directly, numerically compared to the rate at which person B lies. Therefore: whether person A lies more than person B is an empirical fact. IT IS NOT, BY ANY MEANS AN OPINION. 

Since nobody has bothered to actually cite it to you, here is the citation showing that Clinton was demonstrably, empirically, numerically, factually, considerably more honest than Trump was. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for your citations on the relative rate of harassment by liberals against conservatives versus by conservatives against liberals (also an empirical claim meaning you need to cite your evidence and anecdotes don't count). But rather than waiting since I doubt you actually have empirical evidence, I'll leave my source showing just how bad the conservative on liberal harassment has gotten post-election. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/us/politics/fbi-hate-crimes-muslims.html?referer=

I would encourage you to take a class in critical thinking at some point, because if you honestly don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion, or think anecdotal "evidence" is really evidence, you have an INCREDIBLY poor tool set to discern truth from lies in the world around you, and nobody is easier to take advantage of than a citizen that doesn't know how to think clearly and critically. Really, it's for your own good. 

Honestly, no. Like when you try putting people in their place by saying their "ignorant and uneducated" its you who has the problem. Come back down to earth and get a ****ing grip.

We are on an online forum, where i felt as though most people can catch certain things. Like media bias, how real that is (EVERYONE knows this). I'm also not citing WikiLeaks emails, but your welcome to fact check me since you seem to care THAT much (considering you wrote three paragraphs trying to let ME know). I also know what my opinions are, and know what my facts are. Sorry if not specifically point them out or blurring the lines a little bit makes me seem ignorant (i've been on my mobile phone, rushing, etc.) I consider instances of cheating, pandering lying even though they aren't straight-up. So i guess i was at fault with that. Sorry if it really really bothered you.

I'm done arguing about this stuff too. Like this actually pisses me off that much.

Honestly, though you seem like a really good person!! Very smart!!

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8 minutes ago, Seeka said:

Honey Global climate change is a thing.

Some of it is natural.

However more than most of it manmade and accelerated. I'm sorry but the government needs to deal with it. Worldwide temperatures are already rising, weather is getting wilder.

This is not only effecting us, but our environments and the animals within. I watched a lovely documentary on PBS (or a part of it) about how, due to rising carbon dioxide levels in the water caused by global climate change, clams and othe mollusks are becoming deformed and incapable of regular growth and have tendencies of dying before they can be harvested.

I'm sorry but if you're a climate changer denier, you're just as unintelligent as Trump is. if you don't think preventing the end of the world is not a top priority then I'm not going to deal with your idiocy.

The fact is the Paris Climate Change agreement was created for a reason.

Now this entire world is doomed to extremes, and the human race? We're probably gonna die out. not all of us. Just most of us, and enough will be left to start thos epost apocalypse scavenger cultures.

Like I said, enjoy what you have now. Unless Trump is stopped, it's not gonna last long. besides dismantling the EPA, he plans on using more fossil fuels which will accelerate our dooms even more.

 

23 minutes ago, sarahb said:

Yes, yes it is happening fast because of fossil fuels. Yes the poles are melting. The glaciers are melting. Coral reefs around the world are dying. And yes it is important and you SHOULD care unless you don't give a **** that future generations are gonna enjoy bleached reefs, extreme temperatures and extinct animals. 

I'm getting so worked up over this man and I'm not even American, but the things he does are gonna have effects on the planet and the fact that he's trying to censor actual scientific facts is just horrifying. 

I care, i just wouldn't put it before Terrorism or other things for the gov to worry about at this very moment. I'm not a denier, i just don't see how it can efficiently be stopped. It does seem like an issue though. It's just weird thinking about how long it would take to physically change different things in the world to help it. I don't know if i explained that correctly but the changes they would have to make would have to be huge.

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27 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Yes, he did. He was a celebrity. 

Doesn't like playing the victim? Please. Have you seen how he rationalizes losing the popular vote and having smaller crowds ar the inauguration? 

"All I've seen is extremists on the other side" 

Well then you must be blind because there's plenty to see on BOTH sides and you either don't want to see the other side or you support this man. 

I never though of him that way specifically but i guess in some ways he does take advantage of being the victim. It does go both ways. Good to know. 

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Just now, BuzzcutSeason said:

 

I care, i just wouldn't put it before Terrorism or other things for the gov to worry about. It does seem like an issue though. It's just weird thinking about how long it would take to physically change different things in the world to help it. I don't know if i explained that correctly but the changes they would have to make would have to be huge.

Can't the government work on more than one issue at once though? And I would put climate change as one of their most important priorities. You can't bring back the animals and plants that go extinct due to climate change, the best time to act is NOW while some things are still reversible, not later. 

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10 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

 

I care, i just wouldn't put it before Terrorism or other things for the gov to worry about at this very moment. I'm not a denier, i just don't see how it can efficiently be stopped. It does seem like an issue though. It's just weird thinking about how long it would take to physically change different things in the world to help it. I don't know if i explained that correctly but the changes they would have to make would have to be huge.

Honey, there won't be any of those problems when we're all dead. but I don't think that's exact solution.

So do you honestly think we should stop all progress against this issue and instead of mitigating or doing anything to help it, we just hope something happens so that we can cure the planet at once?

I know you didn't say that, but you make it sound like the future of humanity is so minuscule it;'s not worth our time unless we can heal it all at once.

I'm sorry, but this is not a world of immediate gratification you live in.

not to mention, while also mitigating this problem as it happens, we need to teach how important this stuff is so it won't happen in the future. Prevention is the best way for a cure. Making sure it doesn't happen in this first place ever again we'll be the best cure.

We to to mitigate while we can while trying our best to find a cure so when we do have the chance to reverse it, we don't have such an awful mess of a planet. we need to to actually keep our planet in a decent enough condition in order to actually reverse this effects.

Honey, terrorism is something that will always happen. As long as we don't live in a perfect utopia and people can't appreciate others differences, this will happen. Not to mention, everyone dislikes Trump so much, he's going to unintentionally give birth to many domestic terrorists who will probably attack all of his estates.

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I wonder what this means, what contracts and grants normally happen?  I feel bad because I do not know.

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I remember when The Bush Administration was doing this(manipulating news about climate change) and I remember being so appalled back then too...

Now it is happening all over again!!!  SMFH