Lorde: "I think it's time we danced"

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

On 04/01/2017 at 0:31 AM, Thomas said:

honey, what the **** are you on? none of this makes sense, she's just doing... stuff everyone else does? supporting kim in a feminist was because she's a feminist, no? showing her stomach because it's... her choice and also very trendy, no? sexualised? when and where in the video is the sexualised more than just acting out because she's in character? like... these arguments are invalid

I wouldn't have a problem with her doing this if she hadn't made it clear that she was against all this stuff at the beginning of her career. She wouldn't wear revealing clothes, she spoke out against the idea of overly made up faces and photoshopping, she made songs about superficial society and she spoke out against any women who didn't seem to be projecting the same message through her work (she was especially critical of the submissiveness in Selena's Come and Get It). So, starting to change her image in a way more fitting with what society wants women to be (in character or not) and supporting Kim for her sexual image just seems like selling out. The old Lorde would never have praised a woman for doing full frontal nudity on a national magazine for no reason other than titillation. Sure, she's growing up and you're allowed to change your views as you age but like I said before, this is why I'm against really young people making music. Because when they get older and start changing their views of the world, their music and image can change dramatically, their fans don't like it and it looks like they've sold out.

On 04/01/2017 at 1:45 AM, ilovekittens said:

I really like Lorde but Royals was only succesful becauase it was catchy AF and left an earworm on ppl. Also it was new and fresh, something the industry was lacking those days. I don't think her lyrics contributed much on the success of the song, they just brought her critic acclaim and a well deserved grammy. So yeah unless history repeats itself she won't have a succesful era again, no shade just tea!

That's what I say as well. You'll notice a lot of one hit wonders get their hits with really unusual songs, songs that the public don't normally like. They serve as an exception to the rule in the chart record. Their unusual sound grabs your attention, which is enough to make the song sell. But it's no wonder they disappear again just as quickly because the public don't really want to listen to this type of music all the time or even buy a complete album of it. Psy had a Korean hit in a world of English songs. Carly got a 90's bubblegum pop hit in the time of modern dance music. Meghan got a doo-wop hit in the time of house music and urban resurgence. They got these hits because they were doing something attention-grabbingly different. But that was as far as they went. As soon as I heard Lorde, I knew she'd be just like them. If the public doesn't make Lana Del Rey songs hits unless they're dance remixed beyond recognition, what makes Lorde's fans think that they're going to accept multiple stripped-back talk-singing songs about the excesses of society?

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On 5/1/2017 at 7:10 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

I wouldn't have a problem with her doing this if she hadn't made it clear that she was against all this stuff at the beginning of her career. She wouldn't wear revealing clothes, she spoke out against the idea of overly made up faces and photoshopping, she made songs about superficial society and she spoke out against any women who didn't seem to be projecting the same message through her work (she was especially critical of the submissiveness in Selena's Come and Get It). So, starting to change her image in a way more fitting with what society wants women to be (in character or not) and supporting Kim for her sexual image just seems like selling out. The old Lorde would never have praised a woman for doing full frontal nudity on a national magazine for no reason other than titillation. Sure, she's growing up and you're allowed to change your views as you age but like I said before, this is why I'm against really young people making music. Because when they get older and start changing their views of the world, their music and image can change dramatically, their fans don't like it and it looks like they've sold out.

That's what I say as well. You'll notice a lot of one hit wonders get their hits with really unusual songs, songs that the public don't normally like. They serve as an exception to the rule in the chart record. Their unusual sound grabs your attention, which is enough to make the song sell. But it's no wonder they disappear again just as quickly because the public don't really want to listen to this type of music all the time or even buy a complete album of it. Psy had a Korean hit in a world of English songs. Carly got a 90's bubblegum pop hit in the time of modern dance music. Meghan got a doo-wop hit in the time of house music and urban resurgence. They got these hits because they were doing something attention-grabbingly different. But that was as far as they went. As soon as I heard Lorde, I knew she'd be just like them. If the public doesn't make Lana Del Rey songs hits unless they're dance remixed beyond recognition, what makes Lorde's fans think that they're going to accept multiple stripped-back talk-singing songs about the excesses of society?

You explained this so beautifully  that's pretty much my thoughts on it too I just didn't know how to put it into words like you did

Anyway, she made it clear recently that she's doing something different for the new album so I'm curious to see how she'll play it out even though I think I already know how it will end