The hypocrisy towards witchcraft and Azealia Banks

[Princess Die 1,864]

13 hours ago, DrewStevens said:

That's not how freedom of religion works.

Freedom of Religion, just like freedom of speech, protects you from the government and other bigger forces but it doesn't protect you from other people's opinions.

You can protect yourself from being forced to take off your religious attire to take a driver's license picture but you can't stop people from making fun of you. 

And that's fine. I'm just saying she's legally allowed to sacrifice chickens, just like how the Catholic Church is allowed to fondle little boys.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Just now, Princess Die said:

And that's fine. I'm just saying she's legally allowed to sacrifice chickens, just like how the Catholic Church is allowed to fondle little boys.

That tea burned a hole in my soul.

[Luke78619 23,329]

18 hours ago, OBEY said:

This has never been posted in such a perfect thread  

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

15 hours ago, aquariumlust said:

Nobody should have to come on a public forum and defend their stigmatized religion to people who are uniformed. If you want to criticize and judge you should at least make an effort to do a little reading up on the subject.

Unfortunately my religion is plagued with misinformation, stigmas, and a horrible public image (thanks in small part to AB...there have historically been many unfavorable public figures...Aleister Crowley...etc.). It's not our job as witches to inform everyone about our practice (there are many resources on the subject) and many of us are very private about it because of these misunderstandings and "witch-hunts".

I'm not a santero, but this is all tea. Just a bunch of misinformed, ignorant and xenophobic comments. It's actually sad. If you don't like AB that's cool but she's allowed to practice her religion without persecution like the rest of us are. I have friends who are santero and they are the nicest people you will ever meet. 

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13 hours ago, Daydream said:

I'm just going to say that to have faith is to believe in something with no evidence or proof. Especially when there is no guarantee of an outcome. Just because you pray to God every day that you want to be rich, it does not mean it's going to happen.

If a Jehovah's Witness refused blood transfusion for their injured child, that would be child neglect. If a Christian stoned a gay person to death, that would be murder. If a Muslim marries a child, that would be pedophilia. Moreover, if a Muslim throws acid at his wife for being disobedient to him that would be domestic violence. 

Let's call a spade a spade. Azealia Banks is a lunatic and is not licensed to hunt and kill chickens (I'm not even going to use the word 'sacrifice' for this baloney) because no one would grant her this right for "ritual" intentions. She is also violating major health codes that is damaging property. I don't care if this is a tradition in Africa, in Latin America, in Britain, or in someone's delusional mind. Slavery was also a traditional practice, and yet these concepts are far too archaic and outdated for modern society and the digital era.

Three years of killing chickens as a "ritual" for her "Gods/Goddesses" is a long time and one would think that by now her "magic" would "bless" her with a stable career, no? 

I swear, if people didn't use 'religion' as an excuse for their idiotic actions, they would be clinically treated immediately.

alllll the tea

[DrewStevens 5,249]

45 minutes ago, Princess Die said:

And that's fine. I'm just saying she's legally allowed to sacrifice chickens, just like how the Catholic Church is allowed to fondle little boys.

I don't think anyone is saying she should face charges. Freedom of religion has nothing to do with this topic since no one is trying to send her to prison. 

[LePetitGAGABLover 21,234]

16 hours ago, SKANK said:

Comparing the backlash against Banks to to the witch trials of Salem is wildly ignorant. Twenty people were hanged because of a hysteria rooted in puritanical fanaticism and land rights, not by concern over animal welfare. Azealia Banks is receiving criticism on social media and blogs, no one is piling stones on her chest until her lungs collapse.

The Thanksgiving meal comparison is strange too. We know that consuming food fuels your body in a measurably positive way. We know that ritual animal sacrifice does not effect your career in a measurably positive way. One is science the other is superstition. Even if you set that fact aside, compare the experience of a ritual sacrifice to the experience of preparing an average Thanksgiving meal.

Bank's wall and floor were caked with rotted flesh, blood, and feathers. For three years she killed animals in a confined space, not bothering to clean up afterwards. An electric sandblaster was required to scrape the thick layer of decomposing animal remains off her floor. Now compare that to a woman who goes to a supermarket before Thanksgiving and buys a frozen, clean, turkey which only requires her to put it in a pan and cook. Do you not think there is a fundamental difference in the mental state of those two women?

It's disturbing.

 

Once again, SKANK just placed the OP on its place.

[Sylvanas 5,768]

I honestly can't believe I'm reading some of these opinions with my own two eyes.

[YeehawKylie 7,817]

6 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

But they don't dispose of the chicken's body; they consume the chicken afterwards. Also you have the wrong info on the case you cited. The USA Supreme Court has stated (Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, 1993 - see related links) that it is constitutional for Santeria worshippers to kill animals for such a ritual sacrifice.

Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia. Do a little more research.

http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/exercise-religious-practices-rule-law

 

I actually learned about in AP Gov, not Wikipedia...but okay. Just assume it's that and not my memory.

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

The biggest hypocrisy is the fact that everyone who defended Azealia would think her actions to be disgusting and inhumane if they had been practicised by any random person who wasn't a celebrity. And trust me, claims that it was for religious purposes would not better their case. It would probably make it worse, actually. It's amazing what we excuse when a celebrity does it and also what we excuse when it's not happening to us personally. I once talked to a girl who said that she still listened to Chris Brown's music and didn't think him beating a woman up had anything to do with if she should still like his music or not. So, I asked: "What if it was your sister he beat up? Now image Rihanna is your sister." And she wavered a bit and said that made things a bit more complicated. God, maybe it's true and television really has warped our minds.

Honestly, I thought we were past the days of blindly respecting things just because religion is the reason for them. After centuries of sacrifices being outlawed and superstition being thrown out as a load of baloney, we're still in this place? This instance in particular has also shown to me how far SJW's will go to defend someone of colour, no matter what they do. If it was a white girl who did this, she'd be dragged to the pits. If a black woman does it, it's her religion, we shouldn't judge. WTF?! Racial equality is defined as treating the races equally, not bestowing double standards and special rights and respects onto one but disregarding the other. That's just reversing the current racist institution! Some progress! I'm a believer in God, I also dipped into some Wiccan in my younger years, trying some white magic. But I'm not superstitious, I have respect for all and I would never blindly respect anyone who practised immorality in the name of religion. Religion is about peace and harmony, not killing. You shame the true meaning of any religion by claiming that sacrifice is an inherent part of it. When even satanists are saying that animal sacrifice is not an integral part of their practice, you know it must be bats**t crazy. Azealia is mentally ill, that has been known for some time. If her sacrifices truly worked, she'd be the world's top selling artist, everyone she'd ever feuded with would be dead and she'd be free of her mental problems. Oh, she's not? She's just a crazy woman slaughtering chickens? It's almost like superstition and ritual sacrifice means absolutely nothing and serves no logical purpose, hence, should not be respected.

And for all you vegans out there turning it around to that predictable place, get off your high horse, if you pardon the pun. If killing an animal for food is so awful, then why don't you disapprove of animals doing it to each other? Because they need to do this, it's what their bodies were made for, right? But humans are animals too, we were made for eating meat, it gives us nutrients that no other food source can. While we could survive without it, why should we fight against what our bodies naturally designed us for? Just because someone eats meat does not mean that they are ignorant to animal cruelty or animal treatment in slaughter houses. You can be aware of that and thus only eat meat that is ethically sourced. I only eat free range eggs and meat that comes from RSPCA approved farms. I only eat a small variety of meat occasionally anyway. Azealia has killed more chickens in three years than I've eaten in my entire life, along with my entire meat consumption. Plus, it depends where you live. In Britain, our meat and dairy industry is one of the most humane in the world. We don't inject cows with hormones like they do in the US and if you look up the recent ads for Aldi supermarkets (which basically has all-British sourced meat now) and you will see free range taken to the extreme as their turkeys get a large, warm stable to shelter in when it's cold and a massive field with berries to nibble on when it's warm. We try to give our animals the best life possible before they die. And animals have a much smaller lifespan than us anyway and don't have the capacity to live a full life like humans can. You can't compare human life to animal life, it's incomparable. What Azealia has done to these chickens is nowhere near the same level as someone who merely eats meat. Animals slaughtered for food die a noble death, the way nature intended. Just like humans eaten by an animal would also die nobly. Being slaughtered for a senseless sacrifice is the most disrespectful way to go, human or animal.

I can't believe I'm in 2017 reading all this stuff. I thought GGD was a progressive community who wouldn't blindly respect everything they see and hear.

[uo111 5,265]

This thread is the reason why trump won and the democrats can't have nice things.

[MichelMonster 343]

Albino people are killed in some parts of Africa because its believed their body parts have magical properties. Should we respect that as well since its a part of their culture ?

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But in fact, the problem here is more general. Animal killing ? Is it ethically ok or not ? If its ethically wrong for you, it doesnt matter if the slaughtering is the part of some religion or if its done in a slaughterhouse.

[JbGaga 2,261]

On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 2:10 AM, Bette Davis said:

Reminds of when people say stuff like"I love gay people, but I just think marriage should be between a man and a woman and seeing two guys kissing grosses me out." 

I guess they are capable of caring, but clearly not enough. I used to love eating meat and found vegans annoying as **** while believing I was an animal rights supporter/environmentalist, but then I realized how hypocritical I was. If you really care enough about animals and the environment, then you wouldn't be paying people to kill animals and support industries that are wreaking havoc on the planet.

[Bette Davis 12,742]

Just now, JbGaga said:

2 days later and this is the best response you have?

Keep it. Drown it. Bury it and compost it in your garden.

[JbGaga 2,261]

Just now, Bette Davis said:

2 days later and this is the best response you have?

Keep it. Drown it. Bury it and compost it in your garden.

Sorry I don't live here like some others and I will respond when I have the time to grace you with my presence. Honestly how do you respond to ignorance? Ive learned to just keep it moving especially here where there will be no understanding.  Have a lovely New Year Betty.