Bebe 17,106 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, beverlyhills said: People are so butthurt over some chickens being killed as if they're human beings. Vegans are so hypocrite to eat, or rather not eat anything animal related because "it's better for the planet, for animals and humans" but you're sitting on this forum on the internet and a computer/phone which requires usage of electricity. Obviously you're not 100% vegan. You're conflicting animal rights with environmentalism. Often these different perspectives clash, especially when it comes to how we treat "pests" like foreign animals (such as cane toads in Australia) that pose an environmental threat to their new habitat. You can be a vegan and be a poor environmentalist. Most vegans are vegans because they don't want animals to suffer needlessly when we can survive without the need for meat in our diets. There is no animal currently suffering because I am on my laptop, charging it with electricity. Climate Change is of course a huge threat to human and non-human animal life, although there is no serious climate change activist or scientist who would suggest the answer is to stop using electricity all together - it's just not possible. Although, when it comes to climate change, adopting vegetarian diets would cut emissions by 63 percent and vegan diets by 70 percent. So it is actually one of the biggest things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint, which is very important http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/vegan-eating-would-slash-cut-food-s-global-warming-emissions-n542886 Most of it is about doing what you can, not being perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, beverlyhills said: Plants CANNOT feel pain, they can't think and don't suffer. I'm kiiiiiiing at people here saying that we shouldn't eat plants For clarification, I'm merely arguing from his POV and not actually saying that not eating plants is in any way possible ATM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Born To Slay said: Well u got me there, I'm not perfect. But when I get my solar panels next year and my electricity is 100% clean, I'm bumping this thread. I respect what you're trying to do. *hands clapping without the yellow emoticon bcs it's kinda shady* ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Bebe said: You're conflicting animal rights with environmentalism. Often these different perspectives clash, especially when it comes to how we treat "pests" like foreign animals (such as cane toads in Australia) that pose an environmental threat to their new habitat. You can be a vegan and be a poor environmentalist. Most vegans are vegans because they don't want animals to suffer needlessly when we can survive without the need for meat in our diets. There is no animal currently suffering because I am on my laptop, charging it with electricity. Climate Change is of course a huge threat to human and non-human animal life, although there is no serious climate change activist or scientist who would suggest the answer is to stop using electricity all together - it's just not possible. Although, when it comes to climate change, adopting vegetarian diets would cut emissions by 63 percent and vegan diets by 70 percent. So it is actually one of the biggest things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint, which is very important http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/vegan-eating-would-slash-cut-food-s-global-warming-emissions-n542886 Most of it is about doing what you can, not being perfect. I can't believe I've debated in this thread for several pages and forgot to point out the environmental benefits of veganism. Thanks for reminding me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 74,610 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, lego said: Very condescending and rude, so stopped reading right there. I noticed you do this with other users too, so bye. also don't call people you don't know "swetie pie", it's not cute. Riiiiight lmao he could make valid points but his head is so far up his ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlust 115 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, lego said: Very condescending and rude, so stopped reading right there. I noticed you do this with other users too, so bye. Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful response. And thank you for noticing my lack of fake nicety towards ignorance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayonetta 9,844 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: DALLAS--Research scientists at Baylor Medical Center have proven that plants, including vegetables, feel pain when subjected to trauma such as being yanked out of the ground, peeled, cooked, and eaten. "Veggies and plants initiate a massive hormone and chemical barrage internally when they suffer any kind of injury," says professor Barry Lindzer. "This response is akin to the nerve response and endorphin release when an animal is injured. We cannot ignore the similarities." If you're going to keep talking about plants feeling pain why don't you reply to what I said half an hour ago, it shouldn't take this long for a rebuttal 33 minutes ago, Paris Hilton said: With your logic that we have to consider plants may feel pain, can't we also assume that Azealia's sacrifices may be working or have some 'magical' effects until proven wrong? I'm not talking about shooting fireballs or whatever but I do know that witches do things like these in order to bring themselves luck or better health. So technically that hasn't been proven or disproved with certainty yet. (In no way am I saying that I believe her sacrifices are doing anything, but how could I know ) In case you needed help finding it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, beverlyhills said: I respect what you're trying to do. *hands clapping without the yellow emoticon bcs it's kinda shady* I hope I didn't come off as too aggressive in my post, I try very hard to remain friendly on this site because I like making friends here. GGD is on average smarter then the GP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bebe said: You're conflicting animal rights with environmentalism. Often these different perspectives clash, especially when it comes to how we treat "pests" like foreign animals (such as cane toads in Australia) that pose an environmental threat to their new habitat. You can be a vegan and be a poor environmentalist. Most vegans are vegans because they don't want animals to suffer needlessly when we can survive without the need for meat in our diets. There is no animal currently suffering because I am on my laptop, charging it with electricity. Climate Change is of course a huge threat to human and non-human animal life, although there is no serious climate change activist or scientist who would suggest the answer is to stop using electricity all together - it's just not possible. Although, when it comes to climate change, adopting vegetarian diets would cut emissions by 63 percent and vegan diets by 70 percent. So it is actually one of the biggest things you can do to reduce your carbon footprint, which is very important http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/vegan-eating-would-slash-cut-food-s-global-warming-emissions-n542886 Most of it is about doing what you can, not being perfect. Just watch this: ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I never argued with that This wasn't a response to you. However, to me pain is pain. What you are arguing is basically like saying killing one person is better than killing two. Is all in the act and not the amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, Paris Hilton said: That's such a generalisation though You can't say that all vegans think they're better that meat eaters, there are definitely some, but saying all of them do this is plain delusional and **** argument The majority of them for sure at least but of course not the whole community. ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, aquariumlust said: Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful response. And thank you for noticing my lack of fake nicety towards ignorance. You have no respect for people who ask questions or have different point of view, but you're asking to be respected. That's hypocrisy. The fact you copy pasted 1st amendment instead of answering the question, that's ignorance. And that "thank you" is as fake as it can be. 'Night. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I hope I didn't come off as too aggressive in my post, I try very hard to remain friendly on this site because I like making friends here. GGD is on average smarter then the GP. No you're actually very nice. It's not wrong to get passionate over certain topics ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, Enigma said: This wasn't a response to you. However, to me pain is pain. What you are arguing is basically like saying killing one person is better than killing two. Is all in the act and not the amount. Well if to survive we have to kill, I'd say we should strive to kill as least as we can. In the case of the people, we don't need to kill people to survive, so it's not okay to kill anyone. If u want me to say that killing is bad, then there I said it but we don't have the option of no death. Unless we decide to just stop living. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, Paris Hilton said: If you're going to keep talking about plants feeling pain why don't you reply to what I said half an hour ago, it shouldn't take this long for a rebuttal In case you needed help finding it Didn't I already respond to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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