EdX 2,862 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 i'm sorry but i hate that we even have to discuss this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm sure she fakes being a witch just to get attention and because she thinks it's exciting. That girl is such an immature cry baby and attention-*****. She can't be taken seriously. If she did slaughter those chickens, she's definitely a piece of ****. Sorry not sorry. Don't come for me with your "You eat chicken you hypocrite!" Yes I do eat chicken. Did she tho? I don't know, but she is disgusting for more than that one reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 9 hours ago, RainbowBlonde said: But the turkey in most cases is nothing more than extra privilege. It's like a birthday cake in the sense that it's not for survival, but rather for gluttony and festive purposes. Yes, but the eating of any animal in this day and age is not necessarily for survival? We have several foods at our disposal. Eating a Turkey on Thanksgiving is no different than eating a ham sandwich on any random day of the year...in my opinion. It may not be for "survival" but the animal's body is not being killed and disposed of. It is being eaten and providing sustenance...regardless of the purpose. Most people agree it's a lot less offensive to kill an animal and eat it than to kill an animal and not use it for any purpose post mortem. And, I was right. In Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah Supreme Court case of 1993, the Supreme Court ruled that the "unnecessar[y]" killing of "an animal in a public or private ritual or ceremony not for the primary purpose of food consumption", was unconstitutional. So no matter what way you try to cut it, under American law eating turkey on Thanksgiving is legal and kill chickens in your closet for brujeria is illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 10 hours ago, lego said: Please dig into this, I'm interested to know the details. In Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah Supreme Court case of 1993, the Supreme Court ruled that the "unnecessar[y]" killing of "an animal in a public or private ritual or ceremony not for the primary purpose of food consumption", was unconstitutional. So claiming, at least in the US, that sacrificing animals is necessary for your religion is unconstitutional and illegal. One of the few cases that limited what a church can claim under freedom of religion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,902 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 12 hours ago, RainbowBlonde said: Now, I still think she is trash, for many other reasons. But honestly I think we've gone a little too far on this. It's really just what she believes in. Plenty of people also practice witchcraft. I get that animal killings are involved. But it isn't without a reason if it has to do with religion. If that's the case, then the Thanksgiving turkey is also for no reason. It is for eating purposes, but it's an extra privilege, since they could have simply eaten something else. But millions on turkeys would have to be slaughtered just for that day. (not the best analogy tbh...) Is discriminating against witches supposed to be the thing now? Is it Salem all over again? I think many of us have failed to see that, and are just trashing her for the sake of it. I agree, witchcraft really isn't any more insane than any other religion. They're all insane imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicHot 6,444 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Hating on Azebra for sacrificing chickens because it's what she believes in is no different than hating on homophobic Christians for hating on LGBT people. It's still barbaric and wrong. dOnT sAd ReAcT mE 2 bE sHaDy i WiLL RePoRt U!!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm a atheist and a vegan so this is so wrong for me in every single way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 You all some crazy mother****ers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 14 hours ago, Ikvs said: We don't have to respect each and every religion The funny thing is that 95% of all religions require a sacrifice. Especially Christianity. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 15 hours ago, Devyn said: Most religions that involve killing anything are usually looked down upon. Really what about Christianity? Lol Someone has never read the old testament. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swando 300 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Honestly. My theory is that this "religion" of hers, is just to help reduce her anger issues She knows very well how animal sacrifice is looked upon in western culture. She's fully aware of the attention she'll get from it. Religion should always be seen as something personal and "holy", not a way to get attention. Unless that's what your religion is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I got 2 WP's for trashing her and I'm not even mad about it worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm pretty sure she is faking this "I'm a witch" thing and she is just doing it for attention, she is such an attentioin ***** and her fans are something else for still defending her My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 On 12/31/2016 at 10:59 AM, koonsisme said: Yes, but the eating of any animal in this day and age is not necessarily for survival? We have several foods at our disposal. Eating a Turkey on Thanksgiving is no different than eating a ham sandwich on any random day of the year...in my opinion. It may not be for "survival" but the animal's body is not being killed and disposed of. It is being eaten and providing sustenance...regardless of the purpose. Most people agree it's a lot less offensive to kill an animal and eat it than to kill an animal and not use it for any purpose post mortem. And, I was right. In Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah Supreme Court case of 1993, the Supreme Court ruled that the "unnecessar[y]" killing of "an animal in a public or private ritual or ceremony not for the primary purpose of food consumption", was unconstitutional. So no matter what way you try to cut it, under American law eating turkey on Thanksgiving is legal and kill chickens in your closet for brujeria is illegal. But they don't dispose of the chicken's body; they consume the chicken afterwards. Also you have the wrong info on the case you cited. The USA Supreme Court has stated (Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, 1993 - see related links) that it is constitutional for Santeria worshippers to kill animals for such a ritual sacrifice. http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/exercise-religious-practices-rule-law "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I believe in the ethical treatment of animals. Idgaf if people want to claim religion purposes over this. It's 2017- lets move on from being barbaric cruel mindless slaves to the meat and dairy industry and realise that in harming animals we are only harming ourselves. If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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